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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackkilll View Post
    This is just crazy….
    I like the simple idea of the pet evolution, but its way too overpriced. I would need to buy shards for 3.4k plat for just one arcane pet. This is something to seperate p2w from f2p even further. But its fine i guess, because all additional contet is based on paying real money.

    But the fact that you added aps for tht destroys the fun to grind aps. I‘d have to grind probably every single elite map for hours, but some guy with his dads credit card pays and has more aps than i do, who really plays the game. Does this make sense considering top players had to grind for their spot on lb?
    Lets break it down on how much only the rarity aps would cost(calculating only shards): arcane pets lvl 7 x 20 = 68.000 Platinum; Heroic pets lvl 7 x 20 = 54.000 Platinum; Mythic pets lvl7 x 20 = 40.000 Platinum; Legendary pets lvl7 x 20 = 26.000 Platinum
    If u add it up for those aps u would have to pay 188.000 Platinum.
    188.000 seems a lot, doesnt it? BUT WE WOULD HAVE ONLY 80 PETS Lvl7 AT THIS POINT! There is an achievement for 200 pets lvl7!!!!!!
    -> I calculated tht we lvl 120x LEGENDARY pets (the „cheapest“ of them all) which would cost an additional 156.000 Platinum

    So for the total aps we would have to spend 344.000 Platinum (the cheapest way!!)

    This is just ridiculous, please reconsider your ideas.
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    This. I understand aps are meant to be done over time but this is out of control.

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    Please never release this affecting the aps, aps were always f2p but this will destroy the game


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    Please reconsider changing the apps thing, it's too much expense for those achievements, it's assumed that the best LB of each class is on the table because he dedicates time and hard work to the game.What's the point of a leaderboard if anyone with money in their pockets can do it, what are we talking about? It seems that the leaderboard is just to see who has the most money.

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    Disagree aps 100x pet tier 7. this is too much evolution for a pet


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    I'm not going to talk about the pet evolution system, the feedback presented by the vast majority of players defines my thought very well.
    But I have to talk about the story tokens decision, so after we come suggesting many ways to make viable the pet unlock system, all we get is story tokens being purchasable with plat? That makes me think that every suggestion we bring gonna be replaced with a plat wall.
    Players who suggested new ways to unlock pet system made it very clear that the problem was the lack of ways to obtain those tokens, which right now there are only 2 ways: 10 per day or X amount using red eggs(which are insanely expensive and limited), and they suggesting so nice direct and indirect ideas like Token conversion or using other tokens to unlock, but all we get is a kit in store, It's a bit comical and ironic.

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    I was thinking

    Example:

    Nekro+Nekro= 2 star Nekro

    2 star nekro+ 2 star Nekro= 3 star Nekro


    Nekro stats: 15 all stat 15% damage, 25 primary stat 250hp 250 mana

    2 star Nekro: 20 all stat 20% damage 30 primary stat, 350 hp, 350 mana

    3 star Nekro: 25 all stat 25% damage 35 primary stat, 450 hp, 450 mana

    4 star Nekro: 30 all stat, 30% damage, 40 primary stat, 500 hp, 500 mana

    5 star Nekro: 40 all stat, 35% damage, 45 primary stat, 625 hp, 625 mana

    6 star Nekro: 45 all stat, 40% damage, 50 primary stat, 750 hp, 750 mana

    7 star Nekro: 60 all stat, 50% damage, 65 primary stat, 900hp, 900 mana.


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    Quite simply, no ty. More complicated. I recall, people asked to use up old eggs for this. Why must men make 1+1 an algebraic solution?
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    I wish STS would reconsider just using story tokens and let us have an option to use other tokens such as crate token, hauntlet, balanced token etc. Also reconsider the amount of plat and gold needed. This creates more gap among f2p and p2p players specially in HC. Its hard enough to get gold and stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dmqp View Post
    Shards/trainers from gameplay: does this mean they drop from pve maps? If so, do they drop only during pet evolution event or all throughout year? Over 1000 shards for 7th tier arcane/heroic pet, while both rarities aps require many pets... it better drop in high quantities 24/7 and not only during pet evolution event every 4th month (just like awakening event).

    I am not big fan of the system, and aps from it is big -1 from me but what can i do? :-) I can:
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    My plan is the same for badges/titles/banners and now pet dumbosity. I won’t. I don’t play for those items and I’m not planning on participating in the mess.
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    can't find thread where you were collecting suggestions regarding pet revamp just like you did with skills. I am sure there would be interesting suggestions. Just person above me Golden King wrote some interesting suggestion i would rather have over this system.

    Test the waters first with 5x arcane, 5x heroic, 5x mythic and 30x total pets at tier 7 as aps before deciding whether continue with this aps or not. 7 tiers of evolution brings a question, why so many tiers? Pets should become mutants by evolving so much. :-D 2 - 3 would be enough, there is no difference between those buffs anyway. Yeah, i know true reason of so many tiers...

    Hope tokens drop 24/7 with good drop rate. Here is an idea, bring elixir, that increases drop rates if you want. I definitely prefer grindable aps over sit, click and have (buyable).

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    The price of these aps is astronomical.

    Please rethink, some players will simply never even attempt these aps due to the cost.

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    Great basically only for people who spend plat on the game tbh those who don't buy plat are screwed unless rich gg
    people don't want to hear the truth because they don't want their illusions destroyed

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    We want labyrinth event!!! We all hope that's tomorrow c'mon devs
    people don't want to hear the truth because they don't want their illusions destroyed

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    The amount of gold needed is insane for new or low tier players how they supposed to gather 20m+?

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    Releasing this event close to season ending is actually so insane. You guys are exposing yourself and showing what you really value $$$ over player satisfaction. You did this with the fish elixirs before which was met with bad reviews and you do it again with this. You just milk and milk your current player base instead of making the game sustainable by attracting more players


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    The amount of plat required is insane. Adding aps on it makes me laugh only.
    At least remove aps. It will cause more imbalance between game players than before but people will complain less.

    However,

    Question.
    If you evolve a pet and slot a different egg on hb, will evolution benefit will be applied to slotted egg stat?
    99.9% of players don't just use a pet but different combinations.

    This must be considered or whole this pet evolution design is heading to wrong direction.
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    C'mon sts....you not thinking about the players...but your pockets

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hercules View Post
    Analyzing a little, the bonus is added to the pet's happiness bonus, right? because it would be strange to increase the haste of the pet's attack xd
    Quote Originally Posted by okisok View Post
    pet evolution bonuses stat not applying for pet.. its for player stats...
    PET bonuses are on the pet, PLAYER bonuses are on the player.

    Quote Originally Posted by Darndamsel View Post
    Do these changes seriously have to be released with so little time left in this season?
    The system will release, but we'll go ahead delay the APs until Season 35.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hercules View Post
    There is not player bonuses for heroic haste trainer?
    Currently, no, but this is an oversight which has been fixed. The Trainer details have been updated.

    Quote Originally Posted by MasterSan View Post
    Will this be same for both PvE and PvP?
    Yes, but this doesn't affect Honor PvP since those pets are Common rarity.

    Quote Originally Posted by Warisall View Post
    ¿Could the Story Token kits be added to the minstrel store vendor (Anabel)?
    We'll consider adding a currency exchanger for a future release. It's an n-squared problem to have a vendor sell currency packs for all other currencies.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ifeast View Post
    Just to be clear, do we get Haste on using our AA or does the Haste affect the AA cooldown?
    It's kinda the same thing, you will be able to cast your AA faster with Active Ability Haste.

    Quote Originally Posted by presp600 View Post
    way overpriced, especially since there are aps attached. Remove the aps or lower the prices please.
    No plans to remove the APs, but we will delay them until after the current season is over.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lazybears View Post
    So, there will be now labyrinth event for the upcoming week?
    Labyrinth is next week. There's always a one-week event between two-week events.

    Quote Originally Posted by dmqp View Post
    Shards/trainers from gameplay: does this mean they drop from pve maps? If so, do they drop only during pet evolution event or all throughout year?
    For the kickoff, they only come from the event, but we still have plenty of time to determine the overall loot strategy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Megatr0n View Post
    if a pet already has haste . does the haste stack
    Yes.

    Quote Originally Posted by Youraveragemage View Post
    Does this mean [story tokens] are getting removed from example red eggs and chests in future events?
    No. We don't adjust crate/chest contents after release. We did not touch existing story tokens availability, we just also sell them now since there seems to be a demand for them.

    Quote Originally Posted by nekomiya View Post
    Sts never fails to dissapoint...
    We aim to disappoint!

    Quote Originally Posted by dmqp View Post
    7 tiers of evolution brings a question, why so many tiers?
    Originally, we had unique shards per tier, so to get to Tier 5, you needed Tier 5 shards (and they were applicable to any pet). We simplified it to a single shard type per pet rarity. The 7 just stuck since we had already had 7 tiers.

    Thanks for the feedback, everyone!

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    Damn rip lab event isn't till next week again pass on this unless this event is very generous I'll pass
    people don't want to hear the truth because they don't want their illusions destroyed

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