Lifethief weapon bugged? Comparion between lifethief and heartseeker

[wsalew]

Hey guys,

In looking into this with our Design Team, you're kind of comparing apples to oranges on this one.

You're comparing a weapon that does bonus Damage to a weapon that has 3 stat modifiers instead. Granted the bonus damage of weapons might be something that could use some further balance. However, some weapons are just going to be better than others.

Maybe, but both weapons in statistics gave u some damage. The heartseekers which gave me higher damage (on statistics) and also +dexterity (which in rogue mean more damage), made lower damage then weapon with lower damage and with lower dexterity. I agree that some weapons are just simply better. But in this case, better statistic weapon doesnt mean higher damage (even if its in statistic higher damage). in weapon statistic, heartseekers gave me +10% Bonus damage but normal damage the have 77.9. So again, how its possible that weapon with lower damage (not bonus) in this case lifethieves when u fighting gave me higher damage then heartseekers? I just dont understand. With equipped heartseekers my statistics normal damage is 188.5 . But on field, its around 50-100. With lifethieves is higher than 200. I dont think that we mixing apples and oranges, because we talking about "damage statistics" not bonus damage. Or i just wrong understand that. Higher dexterity, higher value damage but lower damage when fighting. Just didnt get it. Or you just trying to tell me that 70.9 damage and +21 dexterity which heartseekers gave me on statistics = 50-100 damage on field? So what with mine 188.5 damage and 208% Bonus damage. Where are they in battle??? And with lifethiefs, all smaller statistic values on dexterity and smaller damage, in battle actually i doing higher damage 200-300. I just dont get the maths then.

Cheers

[Tuik]

Hey guys,

In looking into this with our Design Team, you're kind of comparing apples to oranges on this one.

You're comparing a weapon that does bonus Damage to a weapon that has 3 stat modifiers instead. Granted the bonus damage of weapons might be something that could use some further balance. However, some weapons are just going to be better than others.

The thing here is, honestly, that Lifethief is stronger due to its random high damage hits and Heartseekers should be as strong or even stronger. I have no idea how the damage is calculated for the two but I'm pretty sure a rogue with such setup should be hitting for more than 50-60 damage.

[Aalina]

i also got got both agile lifethief of potency and might heartseekers of tactics ( not that great ), they allmost got the same dmg i only got +1 dmg or something with ALP but find heartseekers more usefull cuz simply they are visibly faster . ALP usefull only when going solo kraag or some place where u have to fight many enemies all by urself so that lifesteal actualy count. Conclusion: Heartseekers are better dps and more usefull when elite and soon pvp . ALP are like solo-farming weapon.

[Bless]

Wow first time i heard peeps complaining about a GOOD thing, jut buy a life n enjoy

[primaeva]

i also got got both agile lifethief of potency and might heartseekers of tactics ( not that great ), they allmost got the same dmg i only got +1 dmg or something with ALP but find heartseekers more usefull cuz simply they are visibly faster . ALP usefull only when going solo kraag or some place where u have to fight many enemies all by urself so that lifesteal actualy count. Conclusion: Heartseekers are better dps and more usefull when elite and soon pvp . ALP are like solo-farming weapon.

Well, I outright refute this claim-- the ALPs are better for any situation simply because hitting for 3-5 times as hard matters more than attacking twice as fast (and it isn't TWICE the attack speed, I'm giving it leeway here).

And I have screenshots to back up my claim.

The current situation is the way it is because you have people who do not read the forums and trust paperdoll DPS wholly that make AHB about 5-10 times the price of a ALP. But hey, I'm going to use what I think is superior and so will you. Only a few days to patch anyway. It won't matter soon enough.

[Tuik]

^ There's a chance the Lifethief will still outdamage level 21 weapons given it's random but frequent high damage hits. Better off keeping the weapon just to be safe

[denzel95]

i use lifethief weapon always outaggro the tankers in elite and end up dying, i guess i'll stick to heartseeker

[Tuik]

i use lifethief weapon always outaggro the tankers in elite and end up dying, i guess i'll stick to heartseeker

Haven't noticed that...I do sometimes get Jarl target me but that's not much of a problem. I prefer going alone anyway so I don't have to rely on terrible players

[ryantat]

I was very happy when i bought Agile Heart Seeker of tactics and then I was sad when I read this post.

I tried to buy Lifethief for testing right now. The result that i disappointed with this post or they fixed the bug? I don't know.

Actually, the Heartseeker with the same level with Lifethief make more damage, more critical than Lifethief. My damage is 170 and 297 dps make critical 800 with Airm shot using Heartseeker, and Lifethief is slower and less damage than Heartseeker

So, where is the bugs on Lifethief? I didn't see, please anyone have any answers?

[iluvataris]

The bug was fixed long ago.

[ryantat]

thanks for your answer

[iluvataris]

Np : )