The fact that people even log in at all is surprising to me. I mean I guess it’s like 200 people who are really keeping this game even afloat.
It’s sad when the changes that are necessary are so small but nothing is done due to complacency.
The fact that people even log in at all is surprising to me. I mean I guess it’s like 200 people who are really keeping this game even afloat.
It’s sad when the changes that are necessary are so small but nothing is done due to complacency.
A small part of the problem is that gold loot was nerfed. Floor 1 with blood takes ~2 minutes per clear and if you have 800 gold loot that's 35-50k per run, sometimes a bit more which isn't bad. A big part of the problem is that the new map doesn't drop enough gold for the amount of gearing and effort required to clear, and the only "loot" that's even worth receiving is the boss vanity which is on floor 3 or 4 and sometimes 6.
Your average player (no blood weapon or arti) is stuck constantly running floor 1 because they don't have the damage to clear the floors with a non-blood user group in a realistic time frame. So, they are stuck and have to pray that a blood wep/arti user joins their map every time in floor 1 or else it will take 15 minutes to clear. On top of that your average player doesn't have the stats to clear Sandbinder Adan so they're again still stuck on floors 1-2.
But to clear floor 1 in ~2mins you need blood gear which weapon + arti will be anywhere from 350-700m+ depending on which weapon you go for. Now let's say the average gold earned in floor 1 is 40k/run. This means a person without blood gear will need to do 7 THOUSAND floor 1 clears, earning 40k each time. Not including potential for sandswept leather or any vanities that can be sold. Coming out to 14k minutes (assuming each run takes 2 mins), or 200+ hours farmed for 350m for two items, before they can even group up to venture past floor 1 of the expansion.
If the group doesn't have any blood items user that run time will go up to 10mins+. This content is just too difficult for regular players and there's little to no return for running the content, even for fully geared players.
So what can STS do? There's 3 options to get people running again:
1) Buff gold drops and keep the difficulty as is. But this will create a wider gap between the have and have nots just based on run times. But this will allow for point 3.
2) Flood the market with Blood arcanes. They should've added guaranteed blood reward in the locked crate event imo, instead of a useless badge. This will help bring blood weapon prices back down to reality because the only weapons worth using right now are selling for 400m+ and the only ones that can afford it are the very rich.
3) Buff gold drops more in Dune, but also buff hedo/zodiac a little bit more. This way people with weaker gear still have a place to farm. IMO Dune map difficulty can be buffed a bit more or kept the same but they should be dropping close to 100k gold like hedo and indigo use to. And for Hedo make it drop 10-20% of what Dune drops. This way the blood users can farm gold + vanities to sell + corrupt jewels and the rest can still farm gold at least.
But STS is refusing to do either.
All these comments and devs not saying a word
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As long as people buy platinum opinions don't matter even if it's just same people you see in towns with alts or main account XDOriginally Posted by presp600
I imagine sts live on a submarine. They do have their probes, radars, screens, and gadgets, they know precisely what's around them.
But they have no real feel of it.
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We just got last pieces of blood gears like 2 months ago or less.
Maps r too long for zoom zoom.
I never really farmed gold so idc abt these gl changes, i just wish we had more cool drops (like poison wisp in elder) , so that we actually have a reason to farm map for hours.
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Its alot abt ppl too, during Indigo hype (lasted for a full year) people farmed gold like bots, some leeched, some used actual bots. All they did was hoard vanitys and sell gold for real money.
Other part is those “save for the next lvl gear” groups of people.
Many people dont invest gold in blood sets, because they expect Sts will shower us with many new op sets (which might be true,seems that locks are only fun and main thing in game now.)
So with that you have 90% of players not able to do relatively easy maps. I cud solo dune maps easy with my alts that have blood gear too, meaning that maps aint hard. Ppl are undegeared, and well, for geared part of the community there is just no reason to run maps. Cuz you get nothing out of them anyway, they aint fun, gl is bad, loot is bad. Fun being the most important thing for me (because this is the game, ppl often forget this)
Hell, you have Kakashi wearing 200b vanity and waiting blood set price to drop smh..
Game turned to Vanity contest mixed with gambling, and thats it.
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What exactly are you disagreeing with in my comment? I’m not sure I understand your point.
You say the maps aren't hard and that players with the Blood set can solo them easily. That’s great but have you tried running those maps with just Legendary or Mythic gear? Still think they’re not hard then?
You basically confirmed my entire premise: for a huge portion of the player base, maps are only manageable with top-tier gear. Thank you for proving my point.
My whole argument was about that exact issue... many players without Blood sets are stuck with L/M gear, which deals barely any damage to 100M HP bosses. You even noted that "90% of players are not able to do relatively easy maps," and that’s precisely the problem.
That’s why I suggested a stat squish (lowering both player damage and enemy HP). It keeps the same Time to Kill (TTK) for geared players like you but allows undergeared players to actually participate and enjoy new content instead of just watching others play.
Regarding gol never said it’s dead. I specifically said STS has delayed effective farming until Level 91 gear is out, which corrects the original poster’s claim.
I respect your −1, but it seems you fundamentally agree with the core issue I raised about accessibility for less-geared players.
Half as many views on this thread as the expansion release, in 25% of the time. Time to wake up!
I say that most of those prople can still afford blood gear if they sell Vanitys they own. Legendary gear and 200m aura with 300 m set is dumb. (90% of weaker players) Blood gear is too cheap for my taste, compared to some useless stuff (vanitys, vanity pet, auras) .
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You are completely missing the point again. The argument you gave a −1 to is about game design, not players' inventory decisions. You are arguing that players need to adapt their finances to fix a broken system. I am arguing that STS needs to fix the broken system so players don't have to sell their accounts just to kill a Dune boss. Okay, that's it from me.
Most merchants or average playes with the coolest vanity and absolutely 0 gear for farming are now quitting after prices of everything dropped and no gold loot so they are stuck with "pretty" vanity sets unable to sell because of a 50-80% gold loss leaving them with no gold to afford gear. Meanwhile the ones geared are playing dune and making atleast 30-150m casually on drops while the others can just watch waiting for blood to "drop" in price.
Again, you had reversed situation, evry1 cud have farmed atleast 5m per hour with no gear and bad gl, why didnt they buy gears? Because evry1 was buting vans. Sts does many things badly in all of our opinion, but you cant blame them for stuff that aint their fault.
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See, thats good reasoning.
+1, I think they did good job in that department.
In other hand, expansion contet is dry and boring. Maybe it changes with comming of elite maps, but that wont be for a while i guess.
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Selling vanities for gear to kill a dune boss just for the gear to be 10x less in cost a year from now and you have to rinse and repeat the same process for newer maps.
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If u or anyone else has to sell their vanity to afford gear to kill a boss after nearly 2 years of insane gold drops, events and many merch/investment opportunities. I DARE to say that's a personal problem.
I have full blood gear and vanities. But so many others don’t and so many others haven’t been playing for two + years. The point is, this game isn’t welcoming to newer players unless they pay money. Most of us play for nostalgia atp. Because there’s literally “nothing else to do”
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I completely agree with everything said❗💥
Idk if you’ve ever met kakashi, but he’s had these vanities forever and farms gold so he can afford gear without having to sell the vanity that he’s attached to. Before the expansion I’d see him in indigo farming everyday. Please stop tryna get on a post and argue for the sake of arguing, half the game already doesn’t like you.
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Nothing to do
I know him well, also know how many cheaper lb sets he sold to me personaly. And that he farmed,so obviously he cud have gotten gears. Was just good example how people dont wanna invest in gears.
Nice to know, there is maybe 3 people in game that like you
Go back to scamming and buying IGN without paying people, only positive thing about you is that you scamm the scammers lol.
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