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[sarahe484]

im gonna say something quite radical, contrarian, maybe even something a lot of yall would generally disagree with, but here goes anyway - the game started becoming stale and going downhill ever since JustG left STS back in 2019. most of us look back on that 2015-2019 era, maybe even before that, quite fondly. maps were full, events were interesting, guilds were rife with chatter and merry... this legit felt like a good MMO. what most of us call nostalgia may not in truth really be nostalgia but rather signs of an actual good game with a good community. idk maybe thats me.

in general the game's felt quite stale since the festerfang expansion. it became quite tedious following garetta with in-game gear loot being rendered useless because it was that bad, but the staleness definitely set in after somberholt and focus shifted on gambling (awakenings).

My opinion is also incredibly radical, contrarian, and widely unaccepted by others but I think linked to yours - I think the game started to die when players pushed STS to make it a solo game where any class could solo the toughest levels.
I started playing the game way back in the beginning. I had no idea what I was doing and frankly, was terrible at it. But... maps required a team of four, with members from various classes, to complete. And newbies (nabs) like me needed more powerful players to help... and there were a LOT of players who needed help (in maps like Nordr haha) and there were LOTS of players willing to help. It was a highly team-driven game. Guilds mattered because that's where you found your parties.
I left the game sometime around 2016 and I came back just a couple years ago.... to find a totally different game. It was a race to have the best stats and best gear so you could be one of the first to solo a map or elite boss. Players who didn't have arcane gear were left in the dust. Players who didn't have speed sets were left in the dust.
A lot of players prefer this game style. They like being a top OP player and soloing the maps. That's fine. I don't begrudge them their opinion. But I just miss the days of strategizing with your team... tanks to pull the mobs and protected the rogue who did the damage while the mage stayed on the periphery and did damage from there and healed the team. That sort of thing.

But... it has become very obvious to me I'm in the minority on that opinion.
More commonly accepted is the opinion that STS has increasingly pushed this to be a pay-to-play game and free-to-play players are going to be iced out. The gold loot nerf on the 91 expansion was the nail in the coffin on that one... dune1 only gives about 65% the gold that e-hedo did and it's rare you can just join randomly and run with a full map. And even if you do everyone scatters through the map instead of sticking together. Without a pt, there's no good gold to be had there. F2P will be officially dead as soon as the current f2p players run out of gold. If they haven't already.

[Cinco]

Yeah, if you only care about one thing, changes to that one thing can feel like a catastrophe.

We knew we would see this sort of outrage when we nerfed the gold loot. We also knew that it had to be done - so we did it... and here we are.

Let me be clear: campaign gold loot values will not be reverted. That said, we are increasing gold loot from events.

Prices fall when we nerf gold loot. Not immediately but literally every single time we've done it. False claims to the contrary don't change the facts.


As for the OP's constant, passionate hatred of all events, rewards, and AL content in general - I say "thanks for your feedback," and hope to someday make something you like.

In the meantime, I do sincerely hope you find something to enjoy in this year's Halloween event.

[presp600]

Yeah, if you only care about one thing, changes to that one thing can feel like a catastrophe.

We knew we would see this sort of outrage when we nerfed the gold loot. We also knew that it had to be done - so we did it... and here we are.

Let me be clear: campaign gold loot values will not be reverted. That said, we are increasing gold loot from events.

Prices fall when we nerf gold loot. Not immediately but literally every single time we've done it. False claims to the contrary don't change the facts.


As for the OP's constant, passionate hatred of all events, rewards, and AL content in general - I say "thanks for your feedback," and hope to someday make something you like.

In the meantime, I do sincerely hope you find something to enjoy in this year's Halloween event.

This Halloween event seems like a step in the right direction. With well designed stuff to loot and good vendor items to grind for. But what about the complete lack of LB items now? No LB sets and no gold loot is gonna kill any semblance of grinding in this game. I’m glad you replied tho.


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[Ariadia]

This Halloween event seems like a step in the right direction. With well designed stuff to loot and good vendor items to grind for. But what about the complete lack of LB items now? No LB sets and no gold loot is gonna kill any semblance of grinding in this game. I’m glad you replied tho.


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This. ^ The Halloween event is really well done, and honestly, some people are just impossible to please. That said, we need more to do outside of events and standing around in towns. The expansion and new aps were nice, but they felt short-lived — most of it was done in just a couple of days.

[Encryptions]

Yeah, if you only care about one thing, changes to that one thing can feel like a catastrophe.

We knew we would see this sort of outrage when we nerfed the gold loot. We also knew that it had to be done - so we did it... and here we are.

Let me be clear: campaign gold loot values will not be reverted. That said, we are increasing gold loot from events.

Prices fall when we nerf gold loot. Not immediately but literally every single time we've done it. False claims to the contrary don't change the facts.


As for the OP's constant, passionate hatred of all events, rewards, and AL content in general - I say "thanks for your feedback," and hope to someday make something you like.

In the meantime, I do sincerely hope you find something to enjoy in this year's Halloween event.

Are there going to be any heroic / arcane pets added to the loot table in campaign maps? Rare jewels? Maybe arcane equipment? Give us something to do in campaign maps.

I am for the gold loot nerf by the way but not the way you guys ended up doing it. It needed to be slowly adjusted over time imo, not dropped all at once completely.

[Yuggernaut]

Yeah, if you only care about one thing, changes to that one thing can feel like a catastrophe.

We knew we would see this sort of outrage when we nerfed the gold loot. We also knew that it had to be done - so we did it... and here we are.

Let me be clear: campaign gold loot values will not be reverted. That said, we are increasing gold loot from events.

Prices fall when we nerf gold loot. Not immediately but literally every single time we've done it. False claims to the contrary don't change the facts.


As for the OP's constant, passionate hatred of all events, rewards, and AL content in general - I say "thanks for your feedback," and hope to someday make something you like.

In the meantime, I do sincerely hope you find something to enjoy in this year's Halloween event.

Yes, but why did Duneveil start with such a horrible gold drop, and in general? duneveil camp will have a one or more portals?

[Soghostly]

Yeah, if you only care about one thing, changes to that one thing can feel like a catastrophe.

We knew we would see this sort of outrage when we nerfed the gold loot. We also knew that it had to be done - so we did it... and here we are.

Let me be clear: campaign gold loot values will not be reverted. That said, we are increasing gold loot from events.

Prices fall when we nerf gold loot. Not immediately but literally every single time we've done it. False claims to the contrary don't change the facts.


As for the OP's constant, passionate hatred of all events, rewards, and AL content in general - I say "thanks for your feedback," and hope to someday make something you like.

In the meantime, I do sincerely hope you find something to enjoy in this year's Halloween event.

Any plans to buff gl drops or vanity drop % for the higher floors (2-6)? Even with a full blood party running floor 6 for the same payout as floor 1 just feels bad right now. But even if vanity drop % is buffed I think it can be more worth for parties to run through floor 6. Also any plans to add boss-specific/elite portals in Dune?

Is the gold loot increase from events only applied to the event boss? Or will it also be applied to Dune bosses during the duration of the event?

[Goldencry]

Yeah, if you only care about one thing, changes to that one thing can feel like a catastrophe.

We knew we would see this sort of outrage when we nerfed the gold loot. We also knew that it had to be done - so we did it... and here we are.

Let me be clear: campaign gold loot values will not be reverted. That said, we are increasing gold loot from events.

Prices fall when we nerf gold loot. Not immediately but literally every single time we've done it. False claims to the contrary don't change the facts.


As for the OP's constant, passionate hatred of all events, rewards, and AL content in general - I say "thanks for your feedback," and hope to someday make something you like.

In the meantime, I do sincerely hope you find something to enjoy in this year's Halloween event.

Gold isn’t the only subject in this thread. What about all the other topics that were brought up??


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[Donpollo7]

Yeah, if you only care about one thing, changes to that one thing can feel like a catastrophe.

We knew we would see this sort of outrage when we nerfed the gold loot. We also knew that it had to be done - so we did it... and here we are.

Let me be clear: campaign gold loot values will not be reverted. That said, we are increasing gold loot from events.

Prices fall when we nerf gold loot. Not immediately but literally every single time we've done it. False claims to the contrary don't change the facts.


As for the OP's constant, passionate hatred of all events, rewards, and AL content in general - I say "thanks for your feedback," and hope to someday make something you like.

In the meantime, I do sincerely hope you find something to enjoy in this year's Halloween event.

Cinco you didn’t have to respond to all this hate yet you did , I respect you so much for that , I completely agree with you , most of these people only care about gold and that’s why everything else they slightly dislike is intensified 10x , AL is not just about farming gold , just wanna let you know you guys have been doing great , especially with this upcoming Halloween event , thanks for everything you guys have done for the community.


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[Goldencry]

Cinco you didn’t have to respond to all this hate yet you did , I respect you so much for that , I completely agree with you , most of these people only care about gold and that’s why everything else they slightly dislike is intensified 10x , AL is not just about farming gold , just wanna let you know you guys have been doing great , especially with this upcoming Halloween event , thanks for everything you guys have done for the community.


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With all these bad recent events ( current halloween not included) and no real loot to grind for after the expansion, what is there left to do besides sitting in towns and chatting??? Of course, there’s PVP, but… LOL it’s definitely been forgotten by the devs.

It’s nice to hang out and talk to friends, but for that, I’ve got my IRL friends lmao. We need some real grinding incentive to actually play the game.


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[presp600]

Cinco you didn’t have to respond to all this hate yet you did , I respect you so much for that , I completely agree with you , most of these people only care about gold and that’s why everything else they slightly dislike is intensified 10x , AL is not just about farming gold , just wanna let you know you guys have been doing great , especially with this upcoming Halloween event , thanks for everything you guys have done for the community.


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I care about the game being fun and worth playing, and in its current state its not.

[Yuggernaut]

Cinco you didn’t have to respond to all this hate yet you did , I respect you so much for that , I completely agree with you , most of these people only care about gold and that’s why everything else they slightly dislike is intensified 10x , AL is not just about farming gold , just wanna let you know you guys have been doing great , especially with this upcoming Halloween event , thanks for everything you guys have done for the community.


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Thanks to all that "hate" that in reality are constructive criticisms and yes some destructive criticisms depending on the aptitudes and attitudes that STS does in AL, is that you enjoy many good things in the game, well done vanitys, improved events, gameplay, in short many things, thanks to the community that cares and dedicates the time to come here and suggest/ talk, not thanks to your "nice comments" that are good in position to let you know when something is good, but those of criticism are not opposed to the same, fact

[Gravely]

Either roll on loot boxes or get lost. Really. The dune set to ' Grind' , ahaeh.. you missed your chance to get people engaged. 91 set or 81 arc.... Uhhh...


You want gold? Have hundreds of millions in gear to even have a chance of earning 10% of the top. Or just wait and see and who knows. I wouldn't avoid a damn 25% increase in gold drops considering how reckless it has been for years. Wow. Really.

[Gravely]

To be honest it has nothing to really do with gold. It does because you drop some lackluster stuff, expecting people to enjoy it. When you honestly can give more, you don't. You have constantly disrespected your average player, constantly. You are like 50, you all know. Ffs. Have some dignity.

[Axalan]

+1 to the plan for increasing gold drop in events!

Honestly, events felt kinda underwhelming before. With decent gold loot gear, I could make way more just farming campaign maps — sometimes in half the time — and then just buy the tier rewards I wanted. That made running events feel a bit pointless.

Adding some special drops from event bosses that everyone can access would make things way more fun. Stuff like heroic eggs (like when Heroic Tadthep or Maria dropped before) or even having heroic pets purchasable with event tokens would really spice things up. You guys did that in past events and it made a huge difference.

[Stefal]

Cinco you didn’t have to respond to all this hate yet you did , I respect you so much for that , I completely agree with you , most of these people only care about gold and that’s why everything else they slightly dislike is intensified 10x , AL is not just about farming gold , just wanna let you know you guys have been doing great , especially with this upcoming Halloween event , thanks for everything you guys have done for the community.


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I mean, it is probably his company and his job to respond to all of these. Hate or good comments, just like with any other job, no?


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[Folklore99]

Tone deaf and F them


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[Yuggernaut]

bumping this!!

[zulice zion]

Good news game return just in old way u should nvr put gl system in first place and see they got addicted~ all u can do revive old map add new stuff question , hidden gear and storys maybe start making sure 3 legend required each map so noone depend so much on gear like old AL does

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[Tekila]

Yeah, if you only care about one thing, changes to that one thing can feel like a catastrophe.

We knew we would see this sort of outrage when we nerfed the gold loot. We also knew that it had to be done - so we did it... and here we are.

Let me be clear: campaign gold loot values will not be reverted. That said, we are increasing gold loot from events.

Prices fall when we nerf gold loot. Not immediately but literally every single time we've done it. False claims to the contrary don't change the facts.


As for the OP's constant, passionate hatred of all events, rewards, and AL content in general - I say "thanks for your feedback," and hope to someday make something you like.

In the meantime, I do sincerely hope you find something to enjoy in this year's Halloween event.

I love this answer.
To put it simple gold is a mean not an end.
Gold loot is not content it is a mean to be able to progress faster.
I am thinking of making a comeback but now the next steps to revamp the game should be about content :
- multiplayer synergy over gear carry : by adjusting map to be doable with a party of 3 people equiped with only dropable gear (may result in adding gear to drop like you did, nerfing ennemies HP pool and mythic/arcane gear and pet damage output).
NB : now that the recount is live everyone should have seen that those top tier gear and pet damage output are just busted and gamebreaker especially when you adjusted all the game to fit them (you may already knew it from start)

- adding quests (story/side/daily) and putting better rewards on them (gold/gear/items)

- and something about non-honor pvp so we got something to enjoy outside of PVE

Just think of it as suggestions cause that is what it is and it is your game. Maybe you have other plans.



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