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    Cool Gold Farming

    Hello!

    I am going to write this up as what I believe to be the BEST gold farming this game has seen -- if you have any corrections please let me know and enjoy!!

    So as for BiS I have these:

    Treant Helm
    Treant Armor
    Dragkin Weapon
    Dragkin Shield
    Lucky Clover BP
    Lovey pet

    Max Godspeed (Max GL enchants)
    Sinful Signet Ring (Max GL enchants)
    Black Flakes weapon/shield


    As for this current meta the best map to run is Hyper Thrax with a full group, with some thorough testing on my own part this makes around 15-22m per hour with MAX gold loot. With Thraxx tickets only costing between 1m-1.5m and lasting one hour, this is insanely practical and reaps huge gold. Since we have an influx of gold in the game right now and players farming all day every day, I believe we should introduce a gold sink into the game. There is just so much gold in this game right now it's pretty wild.

    Thanks for reading!

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    A new Gold Sink would be good, lots of gold currently and it feels like we are returning to the issue we've had before...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ripanda View Post
    A new Gold Sink would be good, lots of gold currently and it feels like we are returning to the issue we've had before...
    Gold sink ?? when's the last time they ever did that? why wouldn't they just nerf it like so many times before. Hyper thrax is a plat map. Your asking them to just make hyper thrax tickets 50mil gold no plat map. Now that would stop it dead.

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    Players indeed have discovered that the premium platinum map of Hyperthrax does drop huge amounts of gold.

    And it generates inflation pumping gold into our small economy.

    The map initially was intended for players to loot level 110 mythical equipment easier considering the rarity and difficultly in the normal campaign. Which requires you to complete two whole levels to reach the Ebonthrax boss.

    Do the gold amounts require a nerf in this map? That is debate in question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fwend View Post
    Players indeed have discovered that the premium platinum map of Hyperthrax does drop huge amounts of gold.

    And it generates inflation pumping gold into our small economy.

    The map initially was intended for players to loot level 110 mythical equipment easier considering the rarity and difficultly in the normal campaign. Which requires you to complete two whole levels to reach the Ebonthrax boss.

    Do the gold amounts require a nerf in this map? That is debate in question.
    I think it needs a nerf personally, the map wasn't intended for gold farming. Yes it drops HUGE amounts of gold, I think it's too much and gold farming should be reserved for events. Christmas specifically has gold farming maps.

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    The Christmas Grotto map was nerfed too due to all the bots exploiting that 3 week period and selling all the gold on the black market.

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    Most people would spend roughly 5 hours farming a day, which translates to around 100m. We can continue nerfing gold farming areas but players will just find the next hot spot. Most are using these gold farms to buyout rare vanities and items to hoard. We already have some players with over 30 founders, some with over 16 L76 Fossil Eggs, some multiple BD sets, some with over 20 Pa’s, and far far more items I don’t want to waste time listing off.

    On the flip side. The PvE community relies on these gold farms to enchant their best gear. Hard position to be in right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImRandy View Post
    Gold sink ?? when's the last time they ever did that? why wouldn't they just nerf it like so many times before. Hyper thrax is a plat map. Your asking them to just make hyper thrax tickets 50mil gold no plat map. Now that would stop it dead.
    The last, and only gold sink imo, is enchantments. I still believe enchants should be expanded upon and add more diversity to your gear setups. Elemental stats is something PL has not brought over yet, while I’m pretty sure AL already has it. Different enemy types requiring different elements, which translate to you having multiple sets that are all enchanted to fit whatever fight you are in. Enchantments with boss damage or elite damage. Lethality enchants that execute low health enemies. So many different options.

    Housing systems, or guild hall decorations, that require gold upkeep would be a god send idea if this game wasn’t so old, not sure if it can even be pulled off here. More crafting recipes for endgame content.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MageFFA View Post
    Most people would spend roughly 5 hours farming a day, which translates to around 100m. We can continue nerfing gold farming areas but players will just find the next hot spot. Most are using these gold farms to buyout rare vanities and items to hoard. We already have some players with over 30 founders, some with over 16 L76 Fossil Eggs, some multiple BD sets, some with over 20 Pa’s, and far far more items I don’t want to waste time listing off.

    On the flip side. The PvE community relies on these gold farms to enchant their best gear. Hard position to be in right now.
    I always believed others just troll for attention regarding the amount of items on game, either way the community is rather small now and holding all those items to resell will be difficult.
    They might find other maps to farm in, it just won't be as lucrative and easy as 20 million or more gold per hour.

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    Gold farming doesn’t kill the game, what really kills it is when players aren’t allowed to play the way they enjoy. Let people farm gold and have fun! What else should they do? Nobody wants to just stand around in town doing nothing.

    Please, enough with this “inflation” argument… Right now, gold farming is actually what keeps the game active after events end.

    @Sunflowershine, I used to think like you, that gold farming should be stopped, but I was wrong. Also, remember the current map is a platinum map! Do you realize how much platinum has been spent because of it? Probably more than you think.

    Inflation has never been the real problem. The real issue is that some of us have been selfish — like I was before. Let the new players get rich too. Let them farm gold!

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    Like Arcane Legends inflation was an issue and players only gold farmed on down times when there where events they didn't like.

    Hence Spacetime Studios creators eventually changed it and nerfed the gold amounts for the greater good.

    Don't get me wrong I farm Hyperthrax too.
    But the game is all about gold now and only the rich ones with Max enchantments and gold loot vanity and pets really benefit.

    The new players are the ones who struggle to grow and earn wealth but they can easily with the help and knowledge and experience from others, and spending platinum.

    What is good for the health of the game?

    How can newer players afford new items? They have zero chance in affording the high end black market items prized by merchs.

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    You can’t really compare Pocket Legends to Arcane Legends, AL has thousands of times more active players than PL. The economy and player base size are completely different.

    In PL, most of the old players who had billions of gold or multiple bars don’t even play anymore. So it doesn’t really matter if more gold is farmed, the people hoarding the big amounts are long gone.

    Also, even new players have great chances now to start farming. For example, the upcoming Halloween event gives everyone the chance to get a solid farming set like the Dragkin set. It’s not that hard anymore to get started and if they really want to speed things up, buying a bit of platinum is an easy boost. Thrax itself is a good motivation for that.

    So honestly, gold farming isn’t what hurts the game. It keeps players active between events, gives new players goals to chase, and keeps the economy alive instead of empty.

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    It is difficult for new players or those starting over. Help them and ask them yourself.

    The Hidden Leaf guild continuously accept and help newer players and those wanting to cap to 115. Be an officer in their guild and you will understand.

    It is easy for experienced players to only think of their own wealth.

    Taking the time to level , teach and train players where to level, how to level, what sets , pets and Vanity items to use, then how to craft and make gold takes the willingness to help others and not only think about themselves and their own wants on game.

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    That requires newer players to be L115 and have the gold necessary to purchase gold loot rings, amulets, and vanities with gold loot on them. The new player experience you’re speaking of is for the people who started 2018-2020 and has had years to develop. The real new player experience is power leveling through the old campaigns and getting stuck at level 78 with no real ability to go beyond that without events. None of the pinks they loot along the ways can be sold since there is no reason to buy them. Plat spending on Thrax or event based deal of days is really their best option, but for more free to play players it’s a long journey ahead of them that most quit mid way through.

    As for inflation. It feels like just yesterday I sold my Cop set for 90m, and 90m was a very good deal for the time period. It took me til this year, and after selling off some of my beloved PvP items I probably won’t be able to buy back, that I was able to complete the set again. Cop set is almost 3B now, Founders are 400, Furious Eye is 400. I’m not a person keen on caring about vanities so this is irrelevant to me. As a PvP player however this hits more at home. 500M for a L15 Toy, 1.2B for L15 SBL, close to 300M for a L19 Forg Bow, 200M for Demo sets, and lord knows how much a OPS goes for now. These numbers are a problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fwend View Post
    It is difficult for new players or those starting over. Help them and ask them yourself.

    The Hidden Leaf guild continuously accept and help newer players and those wanting to cap to 115. Be an officer in their guild and you will understand.

    It is easy for experienced players to only think of their own wealth.

    Taking the time to level , teach and train players where to level, how to level, what sets , pets and Vanity items to use, then how to craft and make gold takes the willingness to help others and not only think about themselves and their own wants on game.
    May i ask you how many bars do you have?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zipties View Post
    Hello!

    I am going to write this up as what I believe to be the BEST gold farming this game has seen -- if you have any corrections please let me know and enjoy!!

    So as for BiS I have these:

    Treant Helm
    Treant Armor
    Dragkin Weapon
    Dragkin Shield
    Lucky Clover BP
    Lovey pet

    Max Godspeed (Max GL enchants)
    Sinful Signet Ring (Max GL enchants)
    Black Flakes weapon/shield


    As for this current meta the best map to run is Hyper Thrax with a full group, with some thorough testing on my own part this makes around 15-22m per hour with MAX gold loot. With Thraxx tickets only costing between 1m-1.5m and lasting one hour, this is insanely practical and reaps huge gold. Since we have an influx of gold in the game right now and players farming all day every day, I believe we should introduce a gold sink into the game. There is just so much gold in this game right now it's pretty wild.

    Thanks for reading!

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    hyper thrax is makes the pve players active, they earn gold, and get new items and get further in game, economy changing but whos are play the game for long time they usally already owning high end rare items what price is probably just get higher by time, the map is cost 25 plat / hour what is benefit sts too cause a lot being sold. anyone can start with basic treant set, godspeed and with any pet so i say it's should stay like this to give opportunity to any player who feel that he need to grind for gold or a rare item or just to prepare for an event

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    Quote Originally Posted by IIXXFIREXXII View Post
    hyper thrax is makes the pve players active, they earn gold, and get new items and get further in game, economy changing but whos are play the game for long time they usally already owning high end rare items what price is probably just get higher by time, the map is cost 25 plat / hour what is benefit sts too cause a lot being sold. anyone can start with basic treant set, godspeed and with any pet so i say it's should stay like this to give opportunity to any player who feel that he need to grind for gold or a rare item or just to prepare for an event
    100% agree it make players happy and benefit sts so win-win situation

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