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    As a hardcore war main (i dont play normal character) i do not like the idea of the x7 str nerfed lol . It helps us hcs out a lot esp with how maps get increasingly hard since you usually have to solo in hc. I finished all dune, finished the ult im not sure if i wouldve. just my opinion

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tell View Post
    My ign is Cprz, i'm a warrior. Using Rage ulti makes warrior just instantly one shot anything in combination with blood items procs and also makes them basicaly immortal. Do i like it? Sure why not, makes me powerful beyond limit. Is it fair? Probably not, its up to you devs if you want to give an unfair ability to each class to even out the playing field, or nerf the one that currently has it. In my opinion game should be harder even for people with best gear. One shotting everything isnt much fun, creating strategy and playing together in a party trying to beat a hard map is more fun in my opinion.
    you can 1 tap current event gauntlet wave 7-10 ? and last couple of maps in dune?

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    If change the fighters and make them useless because rage is very good for newbies and casual players like me then i delete my warrior class sorry but i can't waste play in super nerfed classes instead make the other classes ultimates more powerful and work either solo or with friends and also instead of nerfing the whole ability make nerf only to PvP so it's only give 1/³ or even 50% less than ordinary ability gives tch tch tch , yikes i hate nerfs it's destroying the players items abilities and time they spend to work with the knowing abilities so boring really....

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    Well the Rage ultimate is so broken that we don't even think twice before chosing it other the 2 others.

    Rather than giving Rogue and Mage the same effect that would be gamebreaker as hell knowing that the other classes have better based stats and skills. I suggest you give the warrior's ultimate support effects to buff the others too. (Please do less of that stupid solo one shot META)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tekila View Post
    Well the Rage ultimate is so broken that we don't even think twice before chosing it other the 2 others.

    Rather than giving Rogue and Mage the same effect that would be gamebreaker as hell knowing that the other classes have better based stats and skills. I suggest you give the warrior's ultimate support effects to buff the others too. (Please do less of that stupid solo one shot META)

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    -1 this is plain stupid. Sts are already embracing solo zones like cursed maps and sandbinder boss, another advantage on warriors.

    Only way to do this is to remove the multiplier ult or give the other class.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nev3r View Post
    -1 this is plain stupid. Sts are already embracing solo zones like cursed maps and sandbinder boss, another advantage on warriors.

    Only way to do this is to remove the multiplier ult or give the other class.


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    I agree with you it is completely stupid to embrace solo gameplay in an online game.

    But i do not understand your -1 point.

    Moreover state your ingame name as a 76+ warrior so we know that you are not a rogue/mage begging for more easy solo nuking abilities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tekila View Post
    I agree with you it is completely stupid to embrace solo gameplay in an online game.

    But i do not understand your -1 point.

    Moreover state your ingame name as a 76+ warrior so we know that you are not a rogue/mage begging for more easy solo nuking abilities.

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    I play every class at endgame, and giving Warriors an ability to buff another class—an ability that was supposed to be for Sorcerers—is completely BS.

    Also, I can’t even remember the last time a Sorcerer or Rogue could one-shot a boss in the new maps. Meanwhile, Warriors can do it easily because of that ridiculous ultimate multiplier.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nev3r View Post
    I play every class at endgame, and giving Warriors an ability to buff another class—an ability that was supposed to be for Sorcerers—is completely BS.

    Also, I can’t even remember the last time a Sorcerer or Rogue could one-shot a boss in the new maps. Meanwhile, Warriors can do it easily because of that ridiculous ultimate multiplier.


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    So if you really play all classes you must know that sorcerer and Rogue both have a group buffer ultimate one for move speed + mitigation (Rogue) and the other for haste (Sorcerer).

    The "an ability that was supposed to be for sorcerer is completely BS " is completely Bull****

    I played with a rogue who can one shot dune cave bosses just yesterday but you won't trust me so instead look at the YouTube short named "Rogue vs Vylah in Duneveil cave 5" in wich with just blood and SB the rogue is able to deal ~70% of the boss HP in damage meaning that it can two shot it and one shot this amount of HP with dune bow.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Tekila View Post
    So if you really play all classes you must know that sorcerer and Rogue both have a group buffer ultimate one for move speed + mitigation (Rogue) and the other for haste (Sorcerer).

    The "an ability that was supposed to be for sorcerer is completely BS " is completely Bull****

    I played with a rogue who can one shot dune cave bosses just yesterday but you won't trust me so instead look at the YouTube short named "Rogue vs Vylah in Duneveil cave 5" in wich with just blood and SB the rogue is able to deal ~70% of the boss HP in damage meaning that it can two shot it and one shot this amount of HP with dune bow.



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    Oh yeah? Let’s play Dune right now. You play a maxed awakened rogue and I’ll use a mid-geared warrior. Who do you think will one-shot a boss in Duneveil first? Its really all common sense.

    And are you stupid or just acting dumb? Saying that buffing others isn’t part of a sorcerer’s nature honestly makes me want to laugh, did you play the game yesterday?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nev3r View Post
    Oh yeah? Let’s play Dune right now. You play a maxed awakened rogue and I’ll use a mid-geared warrior. Who do you think will one-shot a boss in Duneveil first? Its really all common sense.

    And are you stupid or just acting dumb? Saying that buffing others isn’t part of a sorcerer’s nature honestly makes me want to laugh, did you play the game yesterday?


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    I'm a mid gear warrior and i can tell you that i one shot every bosses with this ult as i stated earlier the Rage ultimate is broken and i am for the nerf.

    I propose to nerf it but instead of giving the same thing to the other classes i prefer the warrior to buff the other classes to so warrior do not get excluded from parties like during zodias expension because without it rogue and mage deal much more damage than warriors with equal gear.

    Stop insulting people when you cannot understand their point if they don't align with your conception of things. That reveals mental disorders.

    Moreover warrior have more team buffs than sorcerer right now in terms of abilities and perks (horn of Renew and rallying cry) when sorcerer has the debuffs (curse)
    Even Rogue has more team buffs than sorcerer with the smoke bomb damage boost.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tekila View Post
    I'm a mid gear warrior and i can tell you that i one shot every bosses with this ult as i stated earlier the Rage ultimate is broken and i am for the nerf.

    I propose to nerf it but instead of giving the same thing to the other classes i prefer the warrior to buff the other classes to so warrior do not get excluded from parties like during zodias expension because without it rogue and mage deal much more damage than warriors with equal gear.

    Stop insulting people when you cannot understand their point if they don't align with your conception of things. That reveals mental disorders.

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    I can insult you all i want since your opinion is really stupid. Imagine telling buffing others isnt the nature for sorcerer, and whats the connection of giving my ign if i play warrior? Every people in the game knows that ult is real broken, and as i said the only solution is to remove this ult.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nev3r View Post
    I can insult you all i want since your opinion is really stupid. Imagine telling buffing others isnt the nature for sorcerer, and whats the connection of giving my ign if i play warrior? Every people in the game knows that ult is real broken, and as i said the only solution is to remove this ult.


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    You stand on a half *** explanation to prove your half *** logic.
    Without that ult warriors are unwelcomed in parties just remember the "sorry no need war" era during zodias expension. They can nerf it but at a point that it is still usefull and makes the class even to others.

    You can continue insulting me, i just adviced you about your mental disorder issues and lack of education now. Anyway your words are just words without proofs and don't harm me. To put it short they just show your bad behavior with no constructive idea at all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tekila View Post
    You stand on a half *** explanation to prove your half *** logic.
    Without that ult warriors are unwelcomed in parties just remember the "sorry no need war" era during zodias expension. They can nerf it but at a point that it is still usefull and makes the class even to others.

    You can continue insulting me, i just adviced you about your mental disorder issues and lack of education now. Anyway your words are just words without proofs and don't harm me. To put it short they just show your bad behavior with no constructive idea at all.

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    Yeah i got issues, i got issues with no brainer people like you who kept throwing nonsense comments here without thinking twice.

    If you’re hurt since they wont invite you in parties, its not because warrior is not useful rather you’re either under-geared, doesn’t have any friends to run with, or doesn’t know the game mechanics. Either way, thats the reason and not the class itself.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nev3r View Post
    Yeah i got issues, i got issues with no brainer people like you who kept throwing nonsense comments here without thinking twice.

    If you’re hurt since they wont invite you in parties, its not because warrior is not useful rather you’re either under-geared, doesn’t have any friends to run with, or doesn’t know the game mechanics. Either way, thats the reason and not the class itself.


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    You are the one spouting non sense.

    Even with full kraken geared warriors were rejected from parties back then, you needed to get maxed out (awaks, gems, and force sword) to play with mid geared rogue and mages that could come with 3/3 leg and kraken. So bad that i had to switch class back then making me try every classes. And now you suggest to put warriors in that situation again in dune expension if STS doesn't want to continue into the solo nuking option that you want.

    Let's agree to desaggree and please go consult a psychologue you crazy bastard.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tekila View Post
    You are the one spouting non sense.

    Even with full kraken geared warriors were rejected from parties back then, you needed to get maxed out (awaks, gems, and force sword) to play with mid geared rogue and mages that could come with 3/3 leg and kraken. So bad that i had to switch class back then making me try every classes. And now you suggest to put warriors in that situation again in dune expension if STS doesn't want to continue into the solo nuking option that you want.

    Let's agree to desaggree and please go consult a psychologue you crazy bastard.

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    Psychologist*, ill correct that one for you since its obvious you dont know a thing. You’re very welcome, stop crying here and improve your gears. Tbh its not a game problem, but a “you” problem.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nev3r View Post
    Psychologist*, ill correct that one for you since its obvious you dont know a thing. You’re very welcome, stop crying here and improve your gears. Tbh its not a game problem, but a “you” problem.


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    Well my keyboard is in french and i am to lazy to correct every word so yeah get the grammar from your autocorrect and shut it now freaking clown.
    I speak more langages that you will ever do don't take me on that ground because you will never win.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Tekila View Post
    Well my keyboard is in french and i am to lazy to correct every word so yeah get the grammar from your autocorrect and shut it now freaking clown.
    I speak more langages that you will ever do don't take me on that ground because you will never win.


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    Brag all you want, what makes you think i’ll believe that bs you are talking when you can’t gear up on a pixel game? Nice try weirdo.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinco View Post
    We recently buffed two (2) Ultimate Skills for both Sorcerers and Rogues - but a question of balance surrounding the Warrior's "Rage" Ultimate skill remains.

    The team is actively considering changes. Your input on these changes is welcome...

    Here are a few possible adjustments under consideration:

    - Reduce the multiplier provided by Warrior "Rage" by 50% (or a bit more) to maintain the power of "Rage" without making it ultra-OP.

    - Reduce the multiplier (as above) and give Rogues and Sorcerers a similar effect via one of their Ultimates (Herb for Rogues, Energize for Sorcs.).

    - Add an ally bonus function to "Rage" that boosts the Primary Stat for nearby Rogues and Sorcerers (similar to how Energize buffs friends).


    Weighted Consideration for Feedback

    I certainly don't mind hearing from Rogues and Sorcerers on this topic but I really want to hear from Warriors. If you main War and have an opinion that you want us to consider please include the IGN of your Level 76+ Warrior toon(s). It'll take time but I plan to look up your character and the associated analysis to determine whether or not your "yay" or "nay" is coming from a place of experience, but it'll be worth it - and way better than the standard forum poll.


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    Ok. 5+ years main war, name in sig. You said ur nerfing in posts farther down for sake of balance, so no point in whining. So, how would I nerf me to make me balanced, even tho the real deal is, our ulti balances us to the other classes, cuz when it isnt active, we are unbalanced the other way...anyway
    50% is going to be too much imo,and to then buff the other classes.. except, wars are lowest standing damage w no ult. An ultimate is one shot and a special. A rogue can blow thru kt4 mobs without an ult. I cant. Their standing damage more. I just take the abuse til it charges. Tank job. So ok I need ult to be competitive. Bosses? Rog can do cursed with a weak ult, I cant take down a boss without it. Needed. Less standing damage, again. Evg solo lb rn? Rogue. Lb flydra? Historically mage. You wanna balance it a bit, add longer time to recharge, or chop it a third, means 4x multiplier, and test. Classes have always shined in certain expansions, mages in zodias for example. Also realize that war as flavor of the month gets top op players w top op gear, widening the effect further. Ult charges once or twice a normal zone run. Want to nerf it? Except for cursed where its massively needed, make ulti once a zone for wars and leave as is. Keeping it 'special'. ulti doesnt one shot dune stuff past like 1-2 , and thats only if u hit it just right. So ulti just lets us do our fair share of damage there.
    I can go on, but thats some feedback. Oh, and nerf the dam blood aegis. The daggs and staff could be 'helpling' balance. Then u made the aegis and ratcheted the gap. Wars know it. Im just being honest.

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    I've been playing since 2012. I've always played for fun, so I don't know about mediocre items and such; I haven't played with them or don't care about having them, but I know that War has always been weak and excluded at times. The ultimate that multiplies STR (7x STR) gives the War damage equivalent to Rogue's.
    Adding bonuses to rogues and mages would make rogues much stronger than they already are... anyway, reducing the ultimate by half is the best option in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tekila View Post
    You stand on a half *** explanation to prove your half *** logic.
    Without that ult warriors are unwelcomed in parties just remember the "sorry no need war" era during zodias expension. They can nerf it but at a point that it is still usefull and makes the class even to others.

    You can continue insulting me, i just adviced you about your mental disorder issues and lack of education now. Anyway your words are just words without proofs and don't harm me. To put it short they just show your bad behavior with no constructive idea at all.

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    I never heard once of this era lel it's war legend since valley and even before wars were Always needed even in mauso. Even in dune now a party ends the moment the war "carry" says tysm i'm done. If one sucks, will suck no matter the class (i say in general). The point is making things equal. As end game rogue i can one shot dune 1 boss sure but we talk of a 4700 dex dmg set, which is not so average. Does war need that much str? I don't think so cause the ulti is far beyond broken

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