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    Quote Originally Posted by Soghostly View Post
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    Does this mean the timed LB old maps will have gear/loot we'd run in groups to clear for? Kind of like how back in the day you'd have a pt of 4 struggle run thru maps? If so that would be awesome
    No. Players run timed LB with the best gears available. Awarding 'best' gears for these runs doesn't really make sense. See feedback from the earliest Temple Gauntlets (from years ago) to see this logic from players' perspective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinco View Post
    I am not going to tell you :-)
    Why is this a thing to be hiding items till the very release date (event preview day before the event) instead of actually promoting it out in the world so people know what to anticipate + make adjustments to it beforehand when people can be giving you feedback on whether even statwise it makes any sense.

    Can you also at least stop releasing new items right before season ends but rather when it starts? That would be appreciated.

    Also last time I saw the "new powerful gear will be here soon" on the forums from you was the Dunestride set (insane solar damage power and all that) that is performing worse than 76 arcanes. I think you might have slightly different theory on what's considered really powerful gear wise, just guessing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinco View Post
    No. Players run timed LB with the best gears available. Awarding 'best' gears for these runs doesn't really make sense. See feedback from the earliest Temple Gauntlets (from years ago) to see this logic from players' perspective.
    So should we assume that the gear that will be released will still be inferior to Blood gear but will help bridge the gap between the old sets and blood so that players can be more efficient in running Dune maps? Because as of right now a group with Blood gear clears Dune floor 1, 10x as fast compared to a group without blood gear.

    But in order to obtain this more powerful gear players will need to team up in these "elite" or timed LB maps? Would be helpful if you could drop a hint or two

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soghostly View Post
    So should we assume that the gear that will be released will still be inferior to Blood gear but will help bridge the gap between the old sets and blood so that players can be more efficient in running Dune maps? Because as of right now a group with Blood gear clears Dune floor 1, 10x as fast compared to a group without blood gear.

    But in order to obtain this more powerful gear players will need to team up in these "elite" or timed LB maps? Would be helpful if you could drop a hint or two
    Timed maps got nothing to do with loot or dune floors. Thread isnt related to anything you're asking for even

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    Quote Originally Posted by |Ares| View Post
    Timed maps got nothing to do with loot or dune floors. Thread isnt related to anything you're asking for even
    Timed maps scaped heavily. Maps like brackenridge. I never said it had anything to do with dune floors I just said as a comparison blood clears 10x as fast as the next best set.

    And I asked, if to obtain the more "powerful" gear players will need to complete timed/old elite maps for it. As they have been scaled for a reason, and could give players something else to work towards aside from running Dune 1 all day. Why else would they scale the old maps like brackenridge for no reason?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinco View Post
    Look, I realize that your Guild is having trouble with the update to timed LB difficulty but we both know this is just temporary.

    I have faith in you! :-)
    Genuine question, are you and the devs purposely trying to kill the game so you can get a new job? cause from what I know, every decision yall ever had you picked the one that makes people mad and ruins the playerbase, also you said pvp doesn’t pay the bills quite some time ago I used to have friends that spent thousands every awaken event on PvP gear just to awake it, how exactly do you guys keep up with what pays the bills and what doesn’t ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soghostly View Post
    Timed maps scaped heavily. Maps like brackenridge. I never said it had anything to do with dune floors I just said as a comparison blood clears 10x as fast as the next best set.

    And I asked, if to obtain the more "powerful" gear players will need to complete timed/old elite maps for it. As they have been scaled for a reason, and could give players something else to work towards aside from running Dune 1 all day. Why else would they scale the old maps like brackenridge for no reason?
    They scaled the old maps because its leaderboard timed runs difficulty, as I said nothing to do with loot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Psyog View Post
    Genuine question, are you and the devs purposely trying to kill the game so you can get a new job? cause from what I know, every decision yall ever had you picked the one that makes people mad and ruins the playerbase, also you said pvp doesn’t pay the bills quite some time ago I used to have friends that spent thousands every awaken event on PvP gear just to awake it, how exactly do you guys keep up with what pays the bills and what doesn’t ?
    They can see platinum purchase and spending data and make decisions from that. If "make people mad" you mean nerfing hedo/indigo, that needed to be done. While I think gold loot in those maps should be buffed slightly for players with less gear, let's face it nobody was deserving to make 20mil+ a day by sitting in Hedo. People are mad right now that they have to actually clear mobs and the boss for gold, but they will adjust.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soghostly View Post
    They can see platinum purchase and spending data and make decisions from that. If "make people mad" you mean nerfing hedo/indigo, that needed to be done. While I think gold loot in those maps should be buffed slightly for players with less gear, let's face it nobody was deserving to make 20mil+ a day by sitting in Hedo. People are mad right now that they have to actually clear mobs and the boss for gold, but they will adjust.
    Dawg I don’t mean nerfing hedo n indigo, I mean ruining pvp, making awakening event permanent, removing tradeable lbs for the 5th time AFTER nerfing gold loot just to cause inflation, releasing new gear, and then releasing even MORE gear like a month later before we even had enough time to use the old gear so the old gear just became useless within a month, I mean the constant horrible decisions they’ve made since day 1, the game has only been losing playerbase and barely ever gaining, their advertisement has $0 put into it, their updates just make it worse,

    I myself and countless others would agree if they remade the game and just left it untouched it would be so so much better then it is now, inflation is so high right now if it gets any higher the game will break, there’s people in game who genuinely have 1Trillion worth of stuff based on all these prices nowdays

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    That person only cares about the money going into their own pocket, not about the other players at all. As long as the cash keeps flowing and their wallet stays full, nothing else matters. They’ll do whatever it takes just to make more money, even if it means making things harder for others. The players who work hard and play fair get completely ignored. That kind of greed ruins the whole game vibe and kills everyone’s motivation. Life isn’t just about money — it’s also about respect, honesty, and treating people right.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinco View Post
    This was intentional and we have no plans to nerf the difficulty.

    Some very powerful gear is coming in the near future ;-)

    In the meantime... you will be okay!
    When you say powerful I hope it's not bound equipment the community already hates that...
    people don't want to hear the truth because they don't want their illusions destroyed

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    God damn, tought you guys liked the buff and that you said “thats normal for every expansion”

    Anyway, i agree they are buffed bit too much for my taste, but maybe we are just too used to one shotting evrything and for maps/bosses to last few seconds only.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Kairihearts View Post
    When you say powerful I hope it's not bound equipment the community already hates that...
    Why? It is great concept, will stop gear sharing for lbs, and events. And actually make people progress. You have latests gear pieces for 15m only now! (cheap cheap) . Spend 100m on awakes and have good item, spend 300 and have OP item. It will make game more competitive. And eventually reward big farmers, and also big plat spenders. I can see why this bothers OG players that share 2 sets between 5 people tho. All of you cry and complain in the name of “poor and new players” while you were the ones ruining experience for them, and killing their will to compete and progress in game. Because even op set owned by 1 person wont be good as set when 3-4 ppl mix their items/jewels/stones.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stefal View Post
    Why? It is great concept, will stop gear sharing for lbs, and events. And actually make people progress. You have latests gear pieces for 15m only now! (cheap cheap) . Spend 100m on awakes and have good item, spend 300 and have OP item. It will make game more competitive. And eventually reward big farmers, and also big plat spenders. I can see why this bothers OG players that share 2 sets between 5 people tho. All of you cry and complain in the name of “poor and new players” while you were the ones ruining experience for them, and killing their will to compete and progress in game. Because even op set owned by 1 person wont be good as set when 3-4 ppl mix their items/jewels/stones.


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    New bound items (mythic) are already much cheaper then kraken and sb, i dont see why would any1 cry about that? If you farm boogie bags with elixir you can farm NEWEST piece of equipment in under an hour.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stefal View Post
    Why? It is great concept, will stop gear sharing for lbs, and events. And actually make people progress. You have latests gear pieces for 15m only now! (cheap cheap) . Spend 100m on awakes and have good item, spend 300 and have OP item. It will make game more competitive. And eventually reward big farmers, and also big plat spenders. I can see why this bothers OG players that share 2 sets between 5 people tho. All of you cry and complain in the name of “poor and new players” while you were the ones ruining experience for them, and killing their will to compete and progress in game. Because even op set owned by 1 person wont be good as set when 3-4 ppl mix their items/jewels/stones.


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    gears dont matter that much, with very mid set u can still do any kind if lb so this is not relevant, it’s all about not being able to recycle them after they drop out of meta, which in this game is very common occurrence

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    Quote Originally Posted by Voorge View Post
    gears dont matter that much, with very mid set u can still do any kind if lb so this is not relevant, it’s all about not being able to recycle them after they drop out of meta, which in this game is very common occurrence
    Gears dont matter much? In post where you cry that gear is bind on use? Explain please, english isnt my native language. Which item do you recycle? Item that is new and cost 15m? For how much you want to “recycle it?” At this price you can buy lets say armor x3 ,and awake urself to 7% primary , 20+ ms , 50gl with like 200m worth of gems.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinco View Post
    Look, I realize that your Guild is having trouble with the update to timed LB difficulty but we both know this is just temporary.

    I have faith in you! :-)
    Id say this is bigger problem. Gear sharing, i guess we will see in few months when full sets are out ) I support this concept


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stefal View Post
    Explain please, english isnt my native language.
    I’ll just respond in Cinco’s style, referring to the least important part if the paragraph.

    feel free to hmu if u want to discuss my standpoint

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stefal View Post
    Why? It is great concept, will stop gear sharing for lbs, and events. And actually make people progress. You have latests gear pieces for 15m only now! (cheap cheap) . Spend 100m on awakes and have good item, spend 300 and have OP item. It will make game more competitive. And eventually reward big farmers, and also big plat spenders. I can see why this bothers OG players that share 2 sets between 5 people tho. All of you cry and complain in the name of “poor and new players” while you were the ones ruining experience for them, and killing their will to compete and progress in game. Because even op set owned by 1 person wont be good as set when 3-4 ppl mix their items/jewels/stones.


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    Agree with this. Make gears bind on equip but also increase the drop rate for mythics and arcanes so that supply starts flowing in at a steady rate. We all know legendary gears are the new common gears, as in legendary gear will not allow you to do any content.. This will prevent gear sharing across multiple people and help more gold flow through the economy. I see a lot of ppl complaining in guild and on forums that their gear "won't have any value" but inreality it will still carry them to the next expansion, and it will be cheap enough to where people can farm for and purchase the gear a lot faster compared to the past.

    Once the super rich overpay for their gear, the price will start coming down and eventually stabilize for the average player to purchase as we have seen with the new artifact which was selling easily 100m++ the first couple of days but now is stabilized around 40-50mil. New mythic armor is around 20mil which can be purchased by even the common player in a week if they're willing to farm for candy bars a couple hours a day. This is a lot more reasonable than say, a 600 mil weapon (only one piece of gear!!) which they need to farm 3 months for and compete with multibillionaires manipulating the gear market by hoarding all the items.

    A realistic goal will encourage players to return to the game and continue playing, and also purchase store vanities/crates/etc because they're no longer stressed about spending 3 years to farm for an arcane set, just for it to be outdated a few weeks later when the new expansion drops.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stefal View Post
    New bound items (mythic) are already much cheaper then kraken and sb, i dont see why would any1 cry about that? If you farm boogie bags with elixir you can farm NEWEST piece of equipment in under an hour.


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    Uhh lets be honest here... because the mythics are terrible.

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