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    Default Stop with the "Bound on Use"

    Can we please stop with the bounded equipped items and what is with the new set items? I truly can not think of a way to make them useful. I am just lost here on what the plan is with new set items that aren't worth using.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Encryptions View Post
    Can we please stop with the bounded equipped items and what is with the new set items? I truly can not think of a way to make them useful. I am just lost here on what the plan is with new set items that aren't worth using.

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    if you have more than one BoE item, just sell it without awaken, BoE good against alts
    in some way good to see people in LB with their awakening work, the only negative point yes you cannot profit in the future your op gear, but that is sadly

    negative fact: LB rewards aren't as good as they used to be, so, It's not important nowadays going against alts, isn't really that important at this point, with LB rewards so low

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuggernaut View Post
    if you have more than one BoE item, just sell it without awaken, BoE good against alts
    in some way good to see people in LB with their awakening work, the only negative point yes you cannot profit in the future your op gear, but that is sadly

    negative fact: LB rewards aren't as good as they used to be, so, It's not important nowadays going against alts, isn't really that important at this point, with LB rewards so low
    Having BoE now sucks because theres no way to get your gold back

    Is it a rebook or a nike?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuggernaut View Post
    if you have more than one BoE item, just sell it without awaken, BoE good against alts
    in some way good to see people in LB with their awakening work, the only negative point yes you cannot profit in the future your op gear, but that is sadly

    negative fact: LB rewards aren't as good as they used to be, so, It's not important nowadays going against alts, isn't really that important at this point, with LB rewards so low
    None of the new items are op enough to get lb with.

    Its not just about losing gold, its about having to in the future liquidate your items to make room for new items and more.

    I already see whats gonna happen and its not good. I tell everyone certain things are going to happen and no one believes me until they do. Then they react after its happened. Makes no sense.

    Anyways once AGAIN for everyone. Lets call another thing thats going to happen out.

    Part 1: Bound on Equip items come out.
    Effect 1: Its harder for youtubers or people in general to test them out without taking a massive risk on gold loss since they can't trade them after.
    Effect 2: No one makes alt characters as much.
    Effect 3: They over whelm the game with BoE items. *** Current *** We have OVER 50 individual bound on equip items now.
    Effect 4: Less seasonals, less alt characters are made and played.
    Effect 5: It is now harder to swap from 1 class to another since your items are all BOUND to 1 character.

    Part 2: Economy crash out
    Effect 1: - Continued from over whelming the game with BoE items. People are now forced to either liquidate bound items they would rather keep because inventory space becomes scarce.
    Effect 2: Less players are able to keep up with whats being added to the game due to the low variety and ultra high diversity of gears.
    Effect 3: Price goes up and up due to low supply and high demand.

    Part 3: The game goes into a state of "What in the world do I get to progress in damage".
    Effect 1: Everyone is using different mixed loadout (nice for diversity) but bad for trying to understand whats good and obtaining it.
    Effect 2: ONLY those who are Pay 2 Win will have the best gears, not even free to play players who are rich can get access to them as easily.
    Effect 3: People will quit playing because its overwhelming mentally. It is not fun sitting in traders market on forums or in towns for months trying to find 1 armor piece.
    Collectors merchants vs Map runners. Collectors and merchants don't care to search for months. Map farmers want stuff now so they can run the maps.

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    I regret every item I have Soulbound so yeah, I'm over that and if it continues I'll prolly not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Encryptions View Post
    None of the new items are op enough to get lb with.

    Its not just about losing gold, its about having to in the future liquidate your items to make room for new items and more.

    I already see whats gonna happen and its not good. I tell everyone certain things are going to happen and no one believes me until they do. Then they react after its happened. Makes no sense.

    Anyways once AGAIN for everyone. Lets call another thing thats going to happen out.

    Part 1: Bound on Equip items come out.
    Effect 1: Its harder for youtubers or people in general to test them out without taking a massive risk on gold loss since they can't trade them after.
    Effect 2: No one makes alt characters as much.
    Effect 3: They over whelm the game with BoE items. *** Current *** We have OVER 50 individual bound on equip items now.
    Effect 4: Less seasonals, less alt characters are made and played.
    Effect 5: It is now harder to swap from 1 class to another since your items are all BOUND to 1 character.

    Part 2: Economy crash out
    Effect 1: - Continued from over whelming the game with BoE items. People are now forced to either liquidate bound items they would rather keep because inventory space becomes scarce.
    Effect 2: Less players are able to keep up with whats being added to the game due to the low variety and ultra high diversity of gears.
    Effect 3: Price goes up and up due to low supply and high demand.

    Part 3: The game goes into a state of "What in the world do I get to progress in damage".
    Effect 1: Everyone is using different mixed loadout (nice for diversity) but bad for trying to understand whats good and obtaining it.
    Effect 2: ONLY those who are Pay 2 Win will have the best gears, not even free to play players who are rich can get access to them as easily.
    Effect 3: People will quit playing because its overwhelming mentally. It is not fun sitting in traders market on forums or in towns for months trying to find 1 armor piece.
    Collectors merchants vs Map runners. Collectors and merchants don't care to search for months. Map farmers want stuff now so they can run the maps.
    so the solution is, bound to equip "but jut with ur account and not with the trade"

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    Yall gotta stop with boe items. All this does is make us spend gold that we can’t get back, basically forcing us to spend platinum to get gold back. For the last 6 months your only goal has been to turn the game more P2W than ever. F2P player can’t do anything

    Yellow named players has increased by 3x these months. Theyre basically the ones that control the market and gonna be more of them when winter comes out

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    Quote Originally Posted by Encryptions View Post
    None of the new items are op enough to get lb with.

    Its not just about losing gold, its about having to in the future liquidate your items to make room for new items and more.

    I already see whats gonna happen and its not good. I tell everyone certain things are going to happen and no one believes me until they do. Then they react after its happened. Makes no sense.

    Anyways once AGAIN for everyone. Lets call another thing thats going to happen out.

    Part 1: Bound on Equip items come out.
    Effect 1: Its harder for youtubers or people in general to test them out without taking a massive risk on gold loss since they can't trade them after.
    Effect 2: No one makes alt characters as much.
    Effect 3: They over whelm the game with BoE items. *** Current *** We have OVER 50 individual bound on equip items now.
    Effect 4: Less seasonals, less alt characters are made and played.
    Effect 5: It is now harder to swap from 1 class to another since your items are all BOUND to 1 character.

    Part 2: Economy crash out
    Effect 1: - Continued from over whelming the game with BoE items. People are now forced to either liquidate bound items they would rather keep because inventory space becomes scarce.
    Effect 2: Less players are able to keep up with whats being added to the game due to the low variety and ultra high diversity of gears.
    Effect 3: Price goes up and up due to low supply and high demand.

    Part 3: The game goes into a state of "What in the world do I get to progress in damage".
    Effect 1: Everyone is using different mixed loadout (nice for diversity) but bad for trying to understand whats good and obtaining it.
    Effect 2: ONLY those who are Pay 2 Win will have the best gears, not even free to play players who are rich can get access to them as easily.
    Effect 3: People will quit playing because its overwhelming mentally. It is not fun sitting in traders market on forums or in towns for months trying to find 1 armor piece.
    Collectors merchants vs Map runners. Collectors and merchants don't care to search for months. Map farmers want stuff now so they can run the maps.
    If they don't want people doing certain Leaderboards like dragkin/temple/whatever else on a bunch of alts why not make it so you can select items to bind to a character until that event ends. I don't think anyone likes these bound gears, The Game is just turning into hardcore mode light.

    I like playing multiple character/classes but I don't see it being possible after lvl 86.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yuggernaut View Post
    so the solution is, bound to equip "but jut with ur account and not with the trade"
    Yeah, idiotic atleast. Bind on equip is awesome. Makes people invest gold/time in gear. This seems bad for new players , but it actually is really good. Bind gear is really affordable (veil arm+ helm is 40m) reason why people whine is they just dont want to “lose” gold on gear. Gear is like a car, u will always lose, its about what you gain with it. Like buy new stuff, use them, farm with them easier and earn gold/or get lucky with some loot. Game wasnt giving chance to new players with 500+ m tradable new gear, only richer could profit of it, and use it to merch vanitys. Bound on equip thing is a way to go, and maybe only good move sts did in last 12 months.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stefal View Post
    Yeah, idiotic atleast. Bind on equip is awesome. Makes people invest gold/time in gear. This seems bad for new players , but it actually is really good. Bind gear is really affordable (veil arm+ helm is 40m) reason why people whine is they just dont want to “lose” gold on gear. Gear is like a car, u will always lose, its about what you gain with it. Like buy new stuff, use them, farm with them easier and earn gold/or get lucky with some loot. Game wasnt giving chance to new players with 500+ m tradable new gear, only richer could profit of it, and use it to merch vanitys. Bound on equip thing is a way to go, and maybe only good move sts did in last 12 months.


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    Exactly. All the people complaining cus they actually have to invest in gear and items for once. BoE is good for the longevity of the game and healthy economy. Biggest W is the anti-alt LB people mechanic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dexxiedex View Post
    Exactly. All the people complaining cus they actually have to invest in gear and items for once. BoE is good for the longevity of the game and healthy economy. Biggest W is the anti-alt LB people mechanic.
    Also for timed runs - 5-6 ppl share 1-3 mixed sets, and jewels/stones- way they keep pure to manipulate stuff etc. this way they r scared to invest and evry1 else profits off it. Except ppl who play 5,6-10+ years. Thats why they cry so much. If you are plat whale, or in game “rich” as they call themselves i dont see a problem with throwing couple billions in gears thats bound.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stefal View Post
    Yeah, idiotic atleast. Bind on equip is awesome. Makes people invest gold/time in gear. This seems bad for new players , but it actually is really good. Bind gear is really affordable (veil arm+ helm is 40m) reason why people whine is they just dont want to “lose” gold on gear. Gear is like a car, u will always lose, its about what you gain with it. Like buy new stuff, use them, farm with them easier and earn gold/or get lucky with some loot. Game wasnt giving chance to new players with 500+ m tradable new gear, only richer could profit of it, and use it to merch vanitys. Bound on equip thing is a way to go, and maybe only good move sts did in last 12 months.


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    Let’s be realistic for a moment. The only reason veil armor and helm is so cheap is cuz the procs are worthless. The moment any new gear comes out with decent-op procs the prices will be sky high and the demand will be high with everyone wanting to dominate any map they enter. Keeping bind on equip restricts the supply to the rest of us and will keep the prices high until the mega rich are satisfied with their sets. The main people that benefits from this are plat whales as they will be the main ones to control the price market. You and dexxi both know this is true,

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wxyne View Post
    Let’s be realistic for a moment. The only reason veil armor and helm is so cheap is cuz the procs are worthless. The moment any new gear comes out with decent-op procs the prices will be sky high and the demand will be high with everyone wanting to dominate any map they enter. Keeping bind on equip restricts the supply to the rest of us and will keep the prices high until the mega rich are satisfied with their sets. The main people that benefits from this are plat whales as they will be the main ones to control the price market. You and dexxi both know this is true,
    What you are saying is dumb. Helm has op proc (even if it is mythic) do you remember sb prices when it came out? Ring was 300m . 0 proc. Arcane= proc / Mythic= stats


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    Default Stop with the "Bound on Use"

    Developers please read this,
    This is my insight from a 13 years old player who has 500k plat history.

    for the past few years, when you released new gears the pattern was the same - New gears gets released every 2-3 months which are stronger than the ones before, therefore the previous gears drop by a large margin, UNTIL we get Arcane who lasts in the meta for a quite some time.
    But until we will be getting 91 arcanes, there is going to be a while.

    So anyway now you introduced us with gears that is becoming bound once we use it.
    Why?

    Not only that the meta is shifting so quickly, now we can not even sell gears that are no longer in use?

    Until now you guys changed the meta very quickly, but you could sell previous stuff for 40-60% of what you bought them for, (and some time even less).
    Now we are going to lose 100% of that investment, that is crazy!

    Why would anyone think that this is fair? especially when many players paid alot of $$$ for it.

    I urge you to review this system, because since you started this system I got very discourage to play the actual game and your new maps, and just invested everything in vanitys.
    Is this how you see your game?

    Look at your new maps - I enter them, there is NO ONE THERE.
    There isn't any motivation to play.
    Start thinking about it from the player PoV.

    And this is not just me, many players are not motivated to play, cus if they do, they would lose huge chunck of their gold just for wanting to slay some mobs while people who just buy vanities like I just did would become richer everyday for not playing AT ALL.

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    Do away with boe, we don’t want this “feature”

    Also stop adding thing to awakening tables ty
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    Bound is good so we focus in one character only at end game, specially when have event like temple.

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    Y'all really need to stop with the bind in equip gear will eventually be the death to the AL look how many people are against it listen to the community skip this event will wait till winter thanks
    people don't want to hear the truth because they don't want their illusions destroyed

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    Like many here i really dislike those bound items but i can understand why it can be a good thing (less same person multiple alt on some lbs).

    But at least make it in a way that people can use those bound gears as "fuel" or "tokens" to upgrade or get new future items!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stefal View Post
    Yeah, idiotic atleast. Bind on equip is awesome. Makes people invest gold/time in gear. This seems bad for new players , but it actually is really good. Bind gear is really affordable (veil arm+ helm is 40m) reason why people whine is they just dont want to “lose” gold on gear. Gear is like a car, u will always lose, its about what you gain with it. Like buy new stuff, use them, farm with them easier and earn gold/or get lucky with some loot. Game wasnt giving chance to new players with 500+ m tradable new gear, only richer could profit of it, and use it to merch vanitys. Bound on equip thing is a way to go, and maybe only good move sts did in last 12 months.


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    Yeah, BoE makes people buy because they actually need the item, not for investment which would create fake demand in the market and push gear prices higher. I remember a single SB gear piece hitting 100–200 million, and the amulet was even around 300 million at release.
    But honestly, it’s not just BoE that affects item prices, it also depends on how much gold is flooding the market from gold farming.
    I can't say whether BoE is good or bad; let’s see how things go moving forward.

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    I think it needs to stop, it was fun with the first few items but every new gear being released like this is a big no.

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