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    Quote Originally Posted by Stefal View Post
    Oh, from locks! You just spammed really low number of them, and your luck sucked this time.
    But i saw that it hurts and annoys you spending plat and not getting gazillion gold for 200$ i just gave you example what to do with plat. Also i see no reason popping locks for items people sell in expe for 100m lolol.


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    You aren't even defending your standpoint properly.
    You haven't even given a single good answer as to why bound items should be locked behind paywalls that are luck based to obtain.

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    Oh my God, go check post , i really did, in most of the other parts im just playing with your brain, seems you are the only1 that still didnt notice that.
    Anyway, yeah BOE is still way to go, and smart move. Which you will realize once you are not so sour abt this game. Re read mine and some other people comments once your tears from spending plat dry off! Best of luck!


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    The amount of time these people make "stop complaining and crying" argument when they are in discussion is utterly irony and their insecurity at its finest



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    Sts stop with bound on use items! And bring back the gold loot and lb items tradeable!

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    Can you guys see how boe is good now? Look the prices of gear so cheap also the new gl gear so op yet still cheap compare before, Rapa set released 300m to 500m price. Now 100m or less And gold loot still there when you farm in event like birthday, maker event and comming soon event just wait, this new strategy all events not dead zone, many playing events now unlike before just doing indigo or rahab farming. And our plats user still there glad support the new auras. Imagine 10x per hour always sold out.(1750 plats) As i always said expansion is only a month ago but the progress is good, even lb event easy for newbie to be in top 50 or 25 with no stress, no gold need and sleep plenty just chilling , i know some said the prize is so bad, but for the 1st timer lbs when they see their name in lb they feel proud. (just like me before when newbie in lb) and possibly for this set up many new in game can easily adopt the game and they enjoy too. So instead of complaining lets invite our friends to play AL, our dev need our support so game continue till next 10 years or more just keep playing and enjoy you can get what you want too. AJA!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tapsykrete View Post
    Can you guys see how boe is good now? Look the prices of gear so cheap also the new gl gear so op yet still cheap compare before, Rapa set released 300m to 500m price. Now 100m or less And gold loot still there when you farm in event like birthday, maker event and comming soon event just wait, this new strategy all events not dead zone, many playing events now unlike before just doing indigo or rahab farming. And our plats user still there glad support the new auras. Imagine 10x per hour always sold out.(1750 plats) As i always said expansion is only a month ago but the progress is good, even lb event easy for newbie to be in top 50 or 25 with no stress, no gold need and sleep plenty just chilling , i know some said the prize is so bad, but for the 1st timer lbs when they see their name in lb they feel proud. (just like me before when newbie in lb) and possibly for this set up many new in game can easily adopt the game and they enjoy too. So instead of complaining lets invite our friends to play AL, our dev need our support so game continue till next 10 years or more just keep playing and enjoy you can get what you want too. AJA!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tapsykrete View Post
    Can you guys see how boe is good now? Look the prices of gear so cheap also the new gl gear so op yet still cheap compare before, Rapa set released 300m to 500m price. Now 100m or less And gold loot still there when you farm in event like birthday, maker event and comming soon event just wait, this new strategy all events not dead zone, many playing events now unlike before just doing indigo or rahab farming. And our plats user still there glad support the new auras. Imagine 10x per hour always sold out.(1750 plats) As i always said expansion is only a month ago but the progress is good, even lb event easy for newbie to be in top 50 or 25 with no stress, no gold need and sleep plenty just chilling , i know some said the prize is so bad, but for the 1st timer lbs when they see their name in lb they feel proud. (just like me before when newbie in lb) and possibly for this set up many new in game can easily adopt the game and they enjoy too. So instead of complaining lets invite our friends to play AL, our dev need our support so game continue till next 10 years or more just keep playing and enjoy you can get what you want too. AJA!
    bind on equip can cause low supply rate since AL has a trend where they always reduce the supply by lowering chance of get anything new gears come out and higher demand where people wanting to buy it with either plats or huge chunk of golds that has been circulating around and became worthless comparing to plats for years causing hyperinflation. This will be an issue in long term and not short term

    This is just how marketing works and its very simple. I dont think majority people here except op do realize how it works.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ketx View Post
    bind on equip can cause low supply rate since AL has a trend where they always reduce the supply by lowering chance of get anything new gears come out and higher demand where people wanting to buy it with either plats or huge chunk of golds that has been circulating around and became worthless comparing to plats for years causing hyperinflation. This will be an issue in long term and not short term

    This is just how marketing works and its very simple. I dont think majority people here except op do not realize how it works.

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    God damn. Again, worthless comparing to plats. 100$ in plat still buy you like red founder set in gold. Lets say you want emblem aura. You need to buy around 4000$ . Still think gold is worthless compared to plat?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Stefal View Post
    God damn. Again, worthless comparing to plats. 100$ in plat still buy you like red founder set in gold. Lets say you want emblem aura. You need to buy around 4000$ . Still think gold is worthless compared to plat?


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    Do simple math 1 plat / 1 gold = if its less than 1, the gold value is lower than plat value

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    Would it be possible to make bound-to-equip gears stashable? With more gear being added in the future, this would help prevent inventory from filling up. What are your thoughts on this?

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    Hellll naaahhh, asking right before temple event is shameless and sus. Don't do this sts.

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    So, arguements (from players) to keep bound on equip type items are:
    1) prevent ppl from getting multiplie spots at lbs (temple/timed)
    2) BoE items are cheaper

    1) I'm not some elite timed runner, but I don't think that team which buying 20b+ ms sets and putting a lot invest into game would suffer a lot to buy another veil pieces worth 150-200m total for alts and awake it a bit lol (consider its only 3 pieces need). For example if there 5 ppl each have 2 characters, its already enough to dominate all spots of lb lol, and "that guild" expanding more. So, your choice: you are in "that guild" and master decide give u some lb (not sure how it works there in guild), or you without spot at timed lb.
    -Temple events: same tbh, only thing which will prevent ppl running temple lb on alts is making rewards bad as possible lol (and they almost already are). I did several temple events into top10 solo with awakes like 4-5% main stat per item (and 15cd weap or even without cd), just telling that good awakes were not really required for it, so we again talk only about price of item without considering spending a lot to awakes. If want to get some LB but still new in game, just ask sts to expand LB maybe to 100 spots+, maybe will be more lucky at this…

    Now talk about casual players, I have some alts to get plat tiers at events and doing it regularly to get more rewards, and when my normal items (not BoE) won't be enough to run elite mode of usual events (I mean when sts increase difficulty again), there won't be anything to do in AL at all, just waiting next temple events half year? … and I'm pretty sure there's a lot persentage of players like me ,who doing events on alts, not only main character. It's game to have fun, so supposed to be easier, not like logging to 'get some hard job' or 'to pay taxes for play'; I mean there could be better ways to motivate ppl investing real money into game, or I am wrong?

    How about seasonals? I did several season lbs in past, but now I'm sure I won't even try it again when all my gears will bound to main character.

    Also I would hightly recommend (if no changes come), to make those BoE atleast stashable but availible to use only on one character; just bcs chaos in inventory + filling inv slots which are only availible for plat atm…

    2) TBH these kind of players who prefer BoE bcs its cheap - can't see more far that their nose, or just want chaos be around. Idk what arguement is even that, I would prefer get tradeable item (or atleast stashable) for x4 price than cheap 'bound to ONE character' item.
    If we talk about veilblade items: in past sb set (armor helm arti) on arti release was like: 200m arti and 100m total for helm + armor, and I was happy to get it and could pay even more than that, now prices are almost same for veil lol but its BoE + gl is nerfed, so it doesnt even look that cheap as claimed + having weak procs to make game expierence even worse and mess up things…

    Some ppl brought examples like planar pendant, armor helm lvl36, glint sets etc, look how good it was, but difference is:
    -those items were stashable
    -planar pendant was used for very long time, didn't outdate in 2-3 month, and now veilblade items? give it like half year max.
    -glint set was used until 66 expanions and then even at ezg lol (warr/rog), dragon hunter staff/daggers until 71 expansion, some of immo weapons was alive long time too, its like players had some guarantees (and used to have it in past) that their items won't be outdated with next event.
    -In past those items were really op, and now sts just throw items into game without testing, and fixing things when item almost outdated already haha (wondering when blood chakram going be fixed, on new arc weaps release? imagine spending 1b for blood chakram on its awakes, gems, making it bound etc and then realizing that 50m tradeable rusk bow still does more damage than ascended blood weapon with op gems/awakes, and that all blood weapons on rogue has same damage output loool, chakram bow and daggers all have same damage, but shows a lot fake damage stat, especially chakram, so its just weapon to show off damage stat in towns? cuz as proc weap its trash too. Thing with that fake damage was reported 3 times by my friends in bugs section and totally ignored by sts). I'm not encryings fan but agree with his point about testing new items, and sell if don't like, with BoE its impossible. So how excited I should be to get for example new arcane chakram 91 in future, knowing that lvl86 bound maxed chakram had proc worse than kraken bow, damage less than rusk bow and totally trash weapon? Also if try play with sound, chakram is sooo annoying, + its just ugly to wear chakram (if we talk about it as only town weapon)
    -pvp that time was active, talking about planar pendant 41-44 known as long time alive bracket, 48 too, 61-63 too (some ppl used there planar pendant), so some of those items were used by alts, now what? pvp dead at all lvls, those who claim about active low lvl pvp are just merchants + scammers, bring op BoE items for prices like veilblade items to their bracket and watch how true they are fans of pvp lol, whole bracket will get erased in less than 1 week haha. I mean current BoE items won't have any use in future cuz can't even use on alt (even if pvp would be active)
    -in past it was like 1-4 items per expansion which are bound, now? for example exclude new expansion items, I have in use totally 35 items in my inventory+equipped (lvl86 and below), which i need just for comfortable play (excluding items which in stash which i use only for certain situations for some temple events etc), I don't even have elemetal amulet/set, just normal items for play lol; imagine getting 35 BoE items just to don't cry that game is too hard and to keep comfortable play without carry… better to get another game then… So ofc old players upset with it, they used to have free to trade items for 13 years since AL release and now this change lol, ofc it feels like game 'get ruined' or 'dying'.
    -past items bound to account like pp, glint set are free to get, like zero plat need, just pure farm, and what now? Core BoE items comes only from locked crates...
    So comparing current BoE and old bound items is not that correct ig

    Resulting:
    - BoE items supported only by one-two agressive ppl in this thread, which in 3years+ still couldn't get any t10 temple (and even kicked from top50 mostly), and any timed lb (maybe they only got some joke-type LBs like orrick/hydra), and still having illusions that with BoE they suddenly become gods, well, good luck, just watch next temple u get kicked even from t50 again and come cry forums about alts again lmaooo, and next season u won't get any timed reward also, as been told before: "just get better", maybe try play game actually and learn a bit instead bragging your invests to platinum/gears. And for those who prefer BoE because it's "cheap", no comments guys…
    - almost whole community of casual players is demotivated to play AL but still have hopes for revert changes; some players suffer from this 'feature' cuz literally all alts gonna be useless (not atm yet, but soon).

    I might be wrong about BoE being bad, and you can keep defend BoE, but fact is 90% of my FL left AL bcs of gl nerf+boe items, don't need say 'they just weak/don't want invest in game' and other agressive things about leaving ppl, they liked game and now they don't. Remained online friends telling the same thing about their friendlists… People literally stays in camp/trade market forum/merch groups waiting lucky merch instead running maps, also, as mentioned earlier 'I get more gold by NOT investing in gears and NOT running maps, just buy some vanity items/awakes/anything else and wait it to be manipulated' lol. It's like AL became some market simulator instead mmorpg atm (was always like that but now everyone can feel it). When all f2p will leave, p2w won't have anyone to show off at, and will start leaving too, is it planned like that?…

    Would like to see any type of answer from developers about this topic (so people could understand better about latest decisions/changes and stop crying), like let us know what's your end-target of these changes, and maybe, if it's not secret, show some profit numbers of releasing this BoE and gl nerf, like "we earned x2 money compared to previous year", then respect, I understand it's business (no sarcasm at it), but if no big profits from those things, maybe it's time to revert changes… Atm for me those decisions about BoE and gl nerf looking bad, especially thing that they came together in game, could do them slowly so ppl would adapt to them one by one (well, just my opinion).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zzzzz View Post
    So, arguements (from players) to keep bound on equip type items are:
    1) prevent ppl from getting multiplie spots at lbs (temple/timed)
    2) BoE items are cheaper

    1) I'm not some elite timed runner, but I don't think that team which buying 20b+ ms sets and putting a lot invest into game would suffer a lot to buy another veil pieces worth 150-200m total for alts and awake it a bit lol (consider its only 3 pieces need). For example if there 5 ppl each have 2 characters, its already enough to dominate all spots of lb lol, and "that guild" expanding more. So, your choice: you are in "that guild" and master decide give u some lb (not sure how it works there in guild), or you without spot at timed lb.
    -Temple events: same tbh, only thing which will prevent ppl running temple lb on alts is making rewards bad as possible lol (and they almost already are). I did several temple events into top10 solo with awakes like 4-5% main stat per item (and 15cd weap or even without cd), just telling that good awakes were not really required for it, so we again talk only about price of item without considering spending a lot to awakes. If want to get some LB but still new in game, just ask sts to expand LB maybe to 100 spots+, maybe will be more lucky at this…

    Now talk about casual players, I have some alts to get plat tiers at events and doing it regularly to get more rewards, and when my normal items (not BoE) won't be enough to run elite mode of usual events (I mean when sts increase difficulty again), there won't be anything to do in AL at all, just waiting next temple events half year? … and I'm pretty sure there's a lot persentage of players like me ,who doing events on alts, not only main character. It's game to have fun, so supposed to be easier, not like logging to 'get some hard job' or 'to pay taxes for play'; I mean there could be better ways to motivate ppl investing real money into game, or I am wrong?

    How about seasonals? I did several season lbs in past, but now I'm sure I won't even try it again when all my gears will bound to main character.

    Also I would hightly recommend (if no changes come), to make those BoE atleast stashable but availible to use only on one character; just bcs chaos in inventory + filling inv slots which are only availible for plat atm…

    2) TBH these kind of players who prefer BoE bcs its cheap - can't see more far that their nose, or just want chaos be around. Idk what arguement is even that, I would prefer get tradeable item (or atleast stashable) for x4 price than cheap 'bound to ONE character' item.
    If we talk about veilblade items: in past sb set (armor helm arti) on arti release was like: 200m arti and 100m total for helm + armor, and I was happy to get it and could pay even more than that, now prices are almost same for veil lol but its BoE + gl is nerfed, so it doesnt even look that cheap as claimed + having weak procs to make game expierence even worse and mess up things…

    Some ppl brought examples like planar pendant, armor helm lvl36, glint sets etc, look how good it was, but difference is:
    -those items were stashable
    -planar pendant was used for very long time, didn't outdate in 2-3 month, and now veilblade items? give it like half year max.
    -glint set was used until 66 expanions and then even at ezg lol (warr/rog), dragon hunter staff/daggers until 71 expansion, some of immo weapons was alive long time too, its like players had some guarantees (and used to have it in past) that their items won't be outdated with next event.
    -In past those items were really op, and now sts just throw items into game without testing, and fixing things when item almost outdated already haha (wondering when blood chakram going be fixed, on new arc weaps release? imagine spending 1b for blood chakram on its awakes, gems, making it bound etc and then realizing that 50m tradeable rusk bow still does more damage than ascended blood weapon with op gems/awakes, and that all blood weapons on rogue has same damage output loool, chakram bow and daggers all have same damage, but shows a lot fake damage stat, especially chakram, so its just weapon to show off damage stat in towns? cuz as proc weap its trash too. Thing with that fake damage was reported 3 times by my friends in bugs section and totally ignored by sts). I'm not encryings fan but agree with his point about testing new items, and sell if don't like, with BoE its impossible. So how excited I should be to get for example new arcane chakram 91 in future, knowing that lvl86 bound maxed chakram had proc worse than kraken bow, damage less than rusk bow and totally trash weapon? Also if try play with sound, chakram is sooo annoying, + its just ugly to wear chakram (if we talk about it as only town weapon)
    -pvp that time was active, talking about planar pendant 41-44 known as long time alive bracket, 48 too, 61-63 too (some ppl used there planar pendant), so some of those items were used by alts, now what? pvp dead at all lvls, those who claim about active low lvl pvp are just merchants + scammers, bring op BoE items for prices like veilblade items to their bracket and watch how true they are fans of pvp lol, whole bracket will get erased in less than 1 week haha. I mean current BoE items won't have any use in future cuz can't even use on alt (even if pvp would be active)
    -in past it was like 1-4 items per expansion which are bound, now? for example exclude new expansion items, I have in use totally 35 items in my inventory+equipped (lvl86 and below), which i need just for comfortable play (excluding items which in stash which i use only for certain situations for some temple events etc), I don't even have elemetal amulet/set, just normal items for play lol; imagine getting 35 BoE items just to don't cry that game is too hard and to keep comfortable play without carry… better to get another game then… So ofc old players upset with it, they used to have free to trade items for 13 years since AL release and now this change lol, ofc it feels like game 'get ruined' or 'dying'.
    -past items bound to account like pp, glint set are free to get, like zero plat need, just pure farm, and what now? Core BoE items comes only from locked crates...
    So comparing current BoE and old bound items is not that correct ig

    Resulting:
    - BoE items supported only by one-two agressive ppl in this thread, which in 3years+ still couldn't get any t10 temple (and even kicked from top50 mostly), and any timed lb (maybe they only got some joke-type LBs like orrick/hydra), and still having illusions that with BoE they suddenly become gods, well, good luck, just watch next temple u get kicked even from t50 again and come cry forums about alts again lmaooo, and next season u won't get any timed reward also, as been told before: "just get better", maybe try play game actually and learn a bit instead bragging your invests to platinum/gears. And for those who prefer BoE because it's "cheap", no comments guys…
    - almost whole community of casual players is demotivated to play AL but still have hopes for revert changes; some players suffer from this 'feature' cuz literally all alts gonna be useless (not atm yet, but soon).

    I might be wrong about BoE being bad, and you can keep defend BoE, but fact is 90% of my FL left AL bcs of gl nerf+boe items, don't need say 'they just weak/don't want invest in game' and other agressive things about leaving ppl, they liked game and now they don't. Remained online friends telling the same thing about their friendlists… People literally stays in camp/trade market forum/merch groups waiting lucky merch instead running maps, also, as mentioned earlier 'I get more gold by NOT investing in gears and NOT running maps, just buy some vanity items/awakes/anything else and wait it to be manipulated' lol. It's like AL became some market simulator instead mmorpg atm (was always like that but now everyone can feel it). When all f2p will leave, p2w won't have anyone to show off at, and will start leaving too, is it planned like that?…

    Would like to see any type of answer from developers about this topic (so people could understand better about latest decisions/changes and stop crying), like let us know what's your end-target of these changes, and maybe, if it's not secret, show some profit numbers of releasing this BoE and gl nerf, like "we earned x2 money compared to previous year", then respect, I understand it's business (no sarcasm at it), but if no big profits from those things, maybe it's time to revert changes… Atm for me those decisions about BoE and gl nerf looking bad, especially thing that they came together in game, could do them slowly so ppl would adapt to them one by one (well, just my opinion).
    Crazy to think that general public idea is that sets required to do timed runs are worth more than 1b gold, people love assumptions

    I like the part of "that guild expanding" as well. For the record - it's not, been same for solid 3 seasons now

    Everyone's free to contest, people just like to find excuses to not even try their hardest/best. BoE wont change anything timed runs related, can tell you that now. Can't run on alts? Just run everything on main, I don't understand why people think Bind gears will do anything here. At all

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    Quote Originally Posted by |Ares| View Post
    Crazy to think that general public idea is that sets required to do timed runs are worth more than 1b gold, people love assumptions

    I like the part of "that guild expanding" as well. For the record - it's not, been same for solid 3 seasons now

    Everyone's free to contest, people just like to find excuses to not even try their hardest/best
    Yeah this aint true. Just 30ms sb pieces had cost 500m each (still r close) , u can go look prices of items your guildys was selling on forum.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stefal View Post
    Yeah this aint true. Just 30ms sb pieces had cost 500m each (still r close) , u can go look prices of items your guildys was selling on forum.
    1b lol .


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    Okay well if you think that's what's required to run a map go for it (it's not at all) and spend those 20b aferomentioned above

    Not gonna bother to look for anything, doesn't interest me and is inadequate

    Run some maps buddy, you still got time

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    Quote Originally Posted by |Ares| View Post
    Crazy to think that general public idea is that sets required to do timed runs are worth more than 1b gold, people love assumptions

    I like the part of "that guild expanding" as well. For the record - it's not, been same for solid 3 seasons now

    Everyone's free to contest, people just like to find excuses to not even try their hardest/best
    Well, my point there was only that BoE items won't change anything about timed LBs, personally idc about timeds, that's not for me. I brought that thing only as explanation that results won't be changed. If you say that set worth 1b, okay (as I said, I'm not into timed runs, so idk), but its even easier(cheaper) for your guild to keep taking all spots (even with BoE items), which proves my point.

    And about "everyone's free to contest", you told it like I'm complaining about situation in timeds LB while or like I'm against it; I didn't do that at all, just brought facts from seasons results.

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    Prolly not costing you, if others buy stuff for you to use. I mean what do you accomplish with those lies? Use 5.0 ms and 4k dex without ed set lets see what time you get without being carried.
    Most maps dont require any strat/or your guildys already shared it with us , so its just dumb of you to say evry1 is using 1b gear (24 jewels/gems untill month ago costed like 5b) .

    So, either you just told dumb lie, or you can confirm you use some sort of help you are not supposed to use.

    Personally i believe it is first option. Because i refuse to believe people can be so lame to cheat in a game to get better time lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stefal View Post
    Prolly not costing you, if others buy stuff for you to use. I mean what do you accomplish with those lies? Use 5.0 ms and 4k dex without ed set lets see what time you get without being carried.
    Most maps dont require any strat/or your guildys already shared it with us , so its just dumb of you to say evry1 is using 1b gear (24 jewels/gems untill month ago costed like 5b) .

    So, either you just told dumb lie, or you can confirm you use some sort of help you are not supposed to use.

    Personally i believe it is first option. Because i refuse to believe people can be so lame to cheat in a game to get better time lol


    Season 37 Results
    Fastest Shuyal Gladiator Arena Run
    Time - 1m 11s 218ms / Delegation, Gearsure, Paranormal, Vrcane

    Do your research on this before you speak nonsense again.

    Besides, all you do is talk like you so far accomplished so much that puts you into position to despise someone elses achievements, pretty peculiar don't you think?

    Most maps don't require any strat - You're not on any and never have been so if it's that easy why aren't you Really trying to prove your point? Right?

    Guilds you were in? I did timed runs in
    People you ran with? I ran timeds with

    Well I guess I'm sorry that when my guildmates have mentioned that you'd like to try some yourself - none of them really showed interest. Their decision, not mine.

    Not getting into discussion with you anyway, leads to nowhere. Let your delusions speak as you like or carry on with some random personal attacks.

    Rather amusing than sad actually, no shade

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