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    I totally disagree with the OP. In PL we tend to see that for example, all bears are almost identical with the same gear and the same skills and stats. In AL we are seeing that this is not the case at all. For example, I'm a sorcerer. To begin with, some sorcerers are going full INT, others going STR/INT. It seems totally up in the air as to which 4 skills most sorcerers use, it's not even close to being agreed upon which are "best". Then lastly, as for gear there is even disagreement there which is the best gear. For example, I went the route of more armor, but many go the route of highest damage. So if you take ten level 16 sorcerers at random, I don't think you will find 2 that resemble eachother. Take ten players of the same class in PL, and you will find at most 3 different variations, and you may find all ten the same.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Energizeric View Post
    I totally disagree with the OP. In PL we tend to see that for example, all bears are almost identical with the same gear and the same skills and stats. In AL we are seeing that this is not the case at all. For example, I'm a sorcerer. To begin with, some sorcerers are going full INT, others going STR/INT. It seems totally up in the air as to which 4 skills most sorcerers use, it's not even close to being agreed upon which are "best". Then lastly, as for gear there is even disagreement there which is the best gear. For example, I went the route of more armor, but many go the route of highest damage. So if you take ten level 16 sorcerers at random, I don't think you will find 2 that resemble eachother. Take ten players of the same class in PL, and you will find at most 3 different variations, and you may find all ten the same.
    You haven't clarified the purpose of your build... Of which you have two options... Elite runs or everything else.. Once you acknowledge this, the tunnel narrows pretty sharply in regards to effective options for a good build.

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    I don't see myself using any of these passives.

    I had high hopes the passives would be race/class specific and not general for everyone to pick the same ones.

    The only thing this update has of interest for me is more levels and the items that come with it outside of that pretty depressing update.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DontNerfMeBro View Post
    You haven't clarified the purpose of your build... Of which you have two options... Elite runs or everything else.. Once you acknowledge this, the tunnel narrows pretty sharply in regards to effective options for a good build.
    Yes, but since we can only have one build and not keep 2 builds to toggle between, we are forced to compromise and choose somewhere in the middle. Most of us want a build that is somewhat useful throughout the game. I expect that I will be doing elite runs, regular runs, and even PVP once it is released. So I must decide where my priorities are and construct a build that works for all of those purposes. And I'm pretty sure my build will end up being different than many others.

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    It would be cool if someone invested all the skill points in movement speed at a later lvl and lvl run circles around everone in CTF.
    Lvl 51 cap = 50 % movement speed 76 cap 75% and so on...which is probably why there isnt 2 sets of skill points for pasive and reg. you have to think ahead

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicoB View Post
    It would be cool if someone invested all the skill points in movement speed at a later lvl and lvl run circles around everone in CTF.
    Lvl 51 cap = 50 % movement speed 76 cap 75% and so on...which is probably why there isnt 2 sets of skill points for pasive and reg. you have to think ahead
    You can only invest a maximum of five points into each passive, so the max you can get is 5% movement speed, regardless what the level cap is.
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    I got excited about passives because I thought they would be class specific. But it's the same for every class =(

    Passives are excellent way of dumping skill points if you are just trying to limit active skills to four slots. In this case though they don't seem to give a good return

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    Oops didnt realize that. thanks for the correction

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    Quote Originally Posted by nicoB View Post
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    Lol no one will remember man just stick with it. We are all here to have a good time. We won't judge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vystirch View Post
    Lol no one will remember man just stick with it. We are all here to have a good time. We won't judge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DontNerfMeBro View Post
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    No seriously... Just ignore your failures.. don't point them out. Look at me. I sweat pro, bleed pro.. and omg.. I just pro'd all over the place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astrocat View Post
    Didn't know you had some much humor in you
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    so u want passive skills like zenonia series?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Astrocat View Post
    Ah, makes sense. I get it now! Would be pretty good, even StS added few more points, since we won't have enough to max 4 skills, and add some few passive skills. Sure Passive ones are optional, but maxed passive skills with maxed skills would be beast. At least they should have a option to purchase more points through platinum. Just a thought.
    Remember we aren't stopping at 21 forever if we could max all of our skills and a few passives at 21, there might not be anything to grow into in later expansions.
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    Everyone's build is the same with respecs available at any given time. If you want a game where every character is different, find one where there are no stat/skill resets.

    However, there's no best build in AL. You pick whatever suits your playing style.
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    Have to agree the passives are pretty meh, they should at least have been class specific. ie increased threat for warriors, increased weapon speed for rogues, increased range for sorcerors are just some examples.

    Also the ones that increase by a percentage such as increase armour by 1% is pretty useless until later levels, 1% at level 21 is hardly anything, whereas at level 50+ will be much better spent.

    Can't really see me using the passives, unless I have 4 actives maxed out and there is no way of using extra active skills.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalCyr View Post
    Remember we aren't stopping at 21 forever if we could max all of our skills and a few passives at 21, there might not be anything to grow into in later expansions.
    Didn't think about that. I get it now.

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    Im not sure what you were expecting i guess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aedenos View Post
    Im not sure what you were expecting i guess.

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    Probably some outrageous passives like a +1000 HP buff or 100% crit buff. I for one like the passives. I'm a tank so str,armor and damage passives will be nice.

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