Feedback: Ultimate Skill Changes

[Cinco]

The changes to Warrior Rage, and the new Rogue Frenzy and Sorcerer Brainstorm skills are live!

If you need a reminder you can check out the original post here, and the update here.

TLDR; the community urged us to investigate balance issues with respect to the power of Warrior "Rage" Ultimate. We did and we found that given the immense power of gear post-76 this unique 6X primary stat skill did appear to be a bit too OP. Discussion in the original opinion thread seemed to favor giving Rogues and Sorcerers and similar skill. To keep things symmetrical we chose to replace the Rogue and Sorcerer Classes' least used Ultimate Skills with primary stat-boosts.

Thanks for all of the great feedback, detailed opinions and well-considered criticism that dominated the original poll and discussion, and the excellent ideas that accompanied the most recent 'progress update' post. While we did not all agree on the exact changes, I believe we made a pretty good choice given our internal testing, analysis and your participation.

Please let us know what you think about the changes!

[Xmoopig]

Mage energize (Brainstorm) give x2 int not 3x

[dmqp]

Ngl, when I use Rage + Rusk Blade against Dune mobs without the armor proc, it honestly feels like I’m not using ultimate at all. I can still do KT4 solo and kill bosses on my own (slower though).

So… in situations where I actually need my ultimate as a warrior, it still helps me (though not much against mobs without the armor proc, heh), but I’m using the latest gear with i think "good" awakes and jewels. Poorly equipped warriors will feel the difference in their favorite ultimate the most.

Now… a moment of silence, please, for 6x Rage.

[Dafterpic]

The changes to Warrior Rage, and the new Rogue Frenzy and Sorcerer Brainstorm skills are live!

If you need a reminder you can check out the original post here, and the update here.

[I]TLDR; the community urged us to investigate balance issues with respect to the power of Warrior "Rage" Ultimate. We did and we found that given the immense power of gear post-76 this unique 6X primary stat skill did appear to be a bit too OP.!

Rogues and Mages are bit too OP in damage comparison with warriors so symetrical doesnt mean fair or equal when each class has esch class needs so we are going to have a lot of bit too OP mages and rogues but mages mainly, in another point do more nerf to warrior they got 2 ults that gives x3 main stat for keeping it symetrical “”

[Brruiser]

I just tested the rog ultimate, I don’t think the 3x dex properly works.

What does the 3x dex apply to? Base dex? Total dex . 3 ?

My base dex is 7.2k, if i use the ultimate with all of my procs i only go up to 18k

[Zzzzz]

I just tested the rog ultimate, I don’t think the 3x dex properly works.

What does the 3x dex apply to? Base dex? Total dex . 3 ?

My base dex is 7.2k, if i use the ultimate with all of my procs i only go up to 18k

just adds +200% dex (same as it would be awakes), same as warriors ultimates were adding +500% str

well, actually it adds +300% dex lol, bug maybe

[Balenciaqa]

I love the mage ult so far, it feels like an actual ult now. But I was wondering if you would consider making cc ults which can interrupt boss mechanics for example for more variety instead always more damage. Or maybe a support ult which heals/shields to protect the whole party from high dmg or one shot mechanic and or an ult which calls an ancient spirit ghost/group to help and attack a target/get aggro. Based on these mechanics, suitable bosses and maps can be created.


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[Zzzzz]

In past warriors rage ultimate was x6 base str and it worked like 100% base x 6 = 600%
Means it was adding +500%str

Current ultimates says x3 base main stat, means it should be base 100%x3 = 300% total (means it should add +200% main stat), but currently it adds +300%, so it should be called x4 base main stat…
Intended like that or going be nerfed?

[kingsfro]

make lb reward tradeable

[Neutrone]

Loving the mage ultimate can't really complain

[Behoove]

Rogues and Mages are bit too OP in damage comparison with warriors so symetrical doesnt mean fair or equal when each class has esch class needs so we are going to have a lot of bit too OP mages and rogues but mages mainly, in another point do more nerf to warrior they got 2 ults that gives x3 main stat for keeping it symetrical “”

disagree, having double the survivability as a war has to come at a cost, it´s more than enough with the current ult for my war

[Behoove]

Oh and great changes overall, ty

[Freed]

The ultimate changes are so good thanks

[Voorge]

I think what I said before change basically happened, too much power creep but who will complain about that other than me :/
Tank seems toned down and it’s not an issue imo,
Wishing it will happen to all classes ults in a fair way

[Balenciaqa]

I think what I said before change basically happened, too much power creep but who will complain about that other than me :/
Tank seems toned down and it’s not an issue imo,
Wishing it will happen to all classes ults in a fair way

it‘s not even elite dune or something similar out so you can‘t tell yet if its too much power…


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[Voorge]

it‘s not even elite dune or something similar out so you can‘t tell yet if its too much power…


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You’re right going to the game and seeing all classes one shot scaled bosses is completely fine, dune elite isn’t even out so why would I take it to consideration, no ETA either

[Gravely]

Feels like when I first played warrior with kraken procs and 6x Ulti, but as a Rog.

[Tekila]

With the new ults i could see that my blood shield misses a lot to proc most of the time because when i miss like 2 times a boss the first time it is because my shield missed and the second time is because a rogue or mage on stéroïde just obliterated the boss in his gold loot set

Talking about fairness i do not feel to do the same damage as an equally builded rogue or mage but at this point i do not care what i need most as a warrior now is consistency.



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[dmqp]

The more I use it, the less I like it. What are you doing to my favorite game?!

It took me 1 (ONE) run after the patch to realize how much this ultimate lacks power without an armor proc. Did you really not notice this during testing? Ignoring the poll results that were telling you otherwise, “Community urges” basically means a few DPS players complained... that alone does not make a balanced decision. Before rogue players come to pour their hearts out: I’m actually glad they received a 3x primary stat ultimate, i myself wanted to give them something like Rage through suggestion. But why the hell did you have to nerf Warriors just to chase some imaginary symmetry?

How is this symmetrical when one class relies on procs and its ultimate, while another class has way higher base damage stat, shreds enemies with skills and now those same skills are boosted by the exact same ultimate that the proc-dependent class relies on? Where is the symmetry here?

In the past, when I procced RAGE (a perfect name for an ultimate), it truly felt like my Warrior was in rage. I could meaningfully damage bosses with just weapon procs and Rage. I could clear mobs with normal hits and Rage alone. Now Rage feels like the bark of a chihuahua... it does nothing without an ARMOR PROC, especially against Dune mobs and bosses.

If an ultimate only works when another proc is active, then it isn’t an ultimate. At that point, it belongs as an armor perk or a passive effect, not as a class-defining skill. At this moment, you might as well move it from ULTIMATE to armor perks or something similar.

It’s hard to believe it took over a month of testing to come to the conclusion that a proc-dependent perk, completely useless without that proc, is somehow a SYMMETRICAL and POWERFUL ultimate.

Really great start of 2026 in my favorite game.

[Gravely]

The more I use it, the less I like it. What are you doing to my favorite game?!

It took me 1 (ONE) run after the patch to realize how much this ultimate lacks power without an armor proc. Did you really not notice this during testing? Ignoring the poll results that were telling you otherwise, “Community urges” basically means a few DPS players complained... that alone does not make a balanced decision. Before rogue players come to pour their hearts out: I’m actually glad they received a 3x primary stat ultimate, i myself wanted to give them something like Rage through suggestion. But why the hell did you have to nerf Warriors just to chase some imaginary symmetry?

How is this symmetrical when one class relies on procs and its ultimate, while another class has way higher base damage stat, shreds enemies with skills and now those same skills are boosted by the exact same ultimate that the proc-dependent class relies on? Where is the symmetry here?

In the past, when I procced RAGE (a perfect name for an ultimate), it truly felt like my Warrior was in rage. I could meaningfully damage bosses with just weapon procs and Rage. I could clear mobs with normal hits and Rage alone. Now Rage feels like the bark of a chihuahua... it does nothing without an ARMOR PROC, especially against Dune mobs and bosses.

If an ultimate only works when another proc is active, then it isn’t an ultimate. At that point, it belongs as an armor perk or a passive effect, not as a class-defining skill. At this moment, you might as well move it from ULTIMATE to armor perks or something similar.

It’s hard to believe it took over a month of testing to come to the conclusion that a proc-dependent perk, completely useless without that proc, is somehow a SYMMETRICAL and POWERFUL ultimate.

Really great start of 2026 in my favorite game.

Rage was unbelievably overpowered. Unless you are maxed out, you will need armor proc to do crazy damage regardless of class.