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Feedback: Game Grievances (State of the Game)
Not so much from a quality of life perspective but a whole game perspective, what bugs you about the game?
Although some topics already have feedback threads, but you can list anything you want here, we just ask that you provide reasoning and/or context with your topic.
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-ALS
The money grab aps
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Regarding the dunestride bow
The weapon was recently nerfed and I have a recommendation on how to improve it, not making it super broken but nice to kill bosses with if used well with the right gear etc.
1. The weapon proc:
The charing that gives a 500 dex bonus is pretty useless. Does not really make that much of a difference.
What I would change it to:
Charged attack invokes the “Dunestride assasin” buff (if not on cooldown). This powerful enchantment grants you +250% Damage, +150% Boss Damage, +75% Elite Damage and +40% Dexterity in PvE for 7 seconds.(20 second cooldown).
In PvP you get 300 dex, 25% movement speed and 200% armor.
Follow up weapon hits (regular) do massive Solar damage. (Keep the solar damage scaling the same)
2. The weapons mechanics
When proccing the weapon make it so that if you swap to a different weapon, you lose the “Dunestride assasin” buff and make it go on cooldown. (Making it only get used for bosses)
The weapon won’t be as powerful as before because before people were proccing blood bow and then proccing the dunestride bow. This is a good in between to make this weapon fun and balanced. It will also make for some interesting combos.
Well Cinco did apologise for the dune weapon error and to me came across as genuine.
The money grab APs are a real letdown. This is genuinely bad, please reconsider removing them or not granting any AP at all
And I’m not even that upset about pet evolution (which is bad too); the awake APs is simply that bad.
Last edited by wsssadddd; 01-07-2026 at 11:16 AM. Reason: more info
Money grab ups
Nerfing/buffing stuff without asking us-or giving us heads up.
Sneaky timings on releasing gear/aps/certain locks so we are “forced” to spend to keep up.
Not banning OG players for using bots and macro to help them with aps etc.
Not banning- or giving 7 day bans to people who sell/buy items for real money and evry1 knows it.
Not fixing first hits on Bows that proc (was problem with kraken first i wrote long time ago, expanded to blood and dune bow)
Etc etc.
I think you guys should start playing game, join guilds etc, not just come online when big event start and be gone.
(Dont tell me you play on hidden chars etc because obvioulsy you dont, u dont notice tons of bugs/problems/anomaly for a long periods of time.
This post is a good start.
Really is a wake up call for you guys, you need to play it and spend time in game.so you can understand us.
Either that or sell the game to some1 that has the will to work on it (if any1 wud actually buy it in this state)
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Currently, without gold loot, we can only farm and chill out, which is very boring. The events are repetitive, and the rewards aren't worth the effort. The market is inflated, and the lack of gold loot maps means I'm doomed. Quite a few of my friends have quit the game, and I've been playing through this difficult period for the past 2-3 months. This isn't the first time I've experienced this. I'm willing to spend money on in-game purchases for newly released items, but I don't know what to do with the money besides showing it off at my camp. Without gold loot maps, this might be the last time I return to this game. After 12 years, I think it will gradually become a memory.
The current grind is nonexistent.
The progress makes no sense because to farm you need the best gear.
To get the best gear you must either beg and merch or buy platiniums so you get gold to buy it.
Once you get the gear there is nothing stronger ingame that can be dropped so you achieved the most powerfull thing you can get from the game itself.
Then when you get that gear you farm gold to complete your APS that are to be honest all related to gold except those "run this map 1000 times" type APS that are no fun and require litteraly no skill.
The game does not allow you to play anything unless you have the gear to proc and it is just meaningless once you get the gear because you realise that it plays itself we are at a point that the gear could either do auto play the fun would be the same.
To put it short you can chose between being too weak to play or too broken to play.
And it is because :
- the available content does not reward you from playing.
- the gear (especially the arcane procs) is just so broken that it plays itself
- your monatization system is just too agressive locking everything behind plats is outrageous
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I don’t know what’s the point of feedback section and I’ve been saying this for a long time. It’s never a two way conversation specially with dedicated players that play your game for ridiculous amounts of hours daily…weekly…monthly…yearly…Originally Posted by asommers
We rarely get to hear your thought process on some (good or bad) decisions, also not backed up with reasoning you require from us right now.
Why is it better than what community suggests? Instead we are just facing rapid change with “chance to give you feedback” once it’s implemented (questionable changes don’t get attention after they’re out anyways) and hopefully swept under the rug as soon as possible.
You said there’s no constructive criticism anymore, I ask what have you done towards changing that. Ok, I understand there’s no instance where everyone is happy with each update but holy… you’ve been doing mess-ups after mess-ups for months now.
To me, simple player who has some understanding of your product - I see you are only focusing on people hating as if we were biased in feedbacks, no we aren’t… vast majority of those comments is right and you aren’t, sorry.
This comment isn’t about pointing which exact update bugs me because I don’t believe any current issue will be resolved but rather how decision-making is a one way road to another unsuccessful update for you.
Unless y’all high five each other after making the change live and just close the comment section, then I understand.
- The team is pumping out so much gears over a small timeframe recently.
- The team is adding ways to monetize the awake system even more (diluting lootable, APs).
- The team added BOE.
- The team devalues their platinum with indefinite sales.
- The team introducing powercreeping gears to make locks attractive.
All aforementioned changes happened all throughout the expansion, and after nerfing gold. Its obvious which aspects of the game had its revenue decreased, thats when you started to roll out these changes to compensate.
If you revert the gold drops and changes you’ve done, then maybe people will start to buy more gear, will start to awake more, will open more locks as there is now a demand for said gears. Thats when you’ll start to see a natural market and where people will actually spend, without having aforementioned changes to alter the economy and boost your revenues.
It's time for duneveil portal and locked crate for dune weapons ..Cinco promised us to buff the dunestride weapons which is necessary because the portal will be hard content.
From a whole game perspective what frustrates us is how disconnected the game has become from its players. We don’t mind supporting a game we enjoy, but being constantly pushed to spend large amounts on items that expire or barely get used (often not at all) feels excessive and discouraging. I’ve never seen this approach taken so aggressively far in other games. Listening without change isn’t listening it’s just noise control. Maybe you need someone on the team who genuinely plays the game, because these decisions don’t reflect a real players perspective.
What we want is real content to grind for, something we can actually achieve and feel proud of, not content that just reminds us how broke we are.
-Lemon
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Thank you, ALS!
Keep up the great work, and thanks to all the developers. Hopefully this step helps fix the issues and improve the game overall. I believe the game will be more playable than before, especially while you’re listening to player feedback, which is one of the best things developers can do for their community.
Good luck everyone, and have a nice day!
This is a big event, but the rewards for the top 5 LB aren't that big. I don't know if it's a lack of ideas or just laziness.
Is there any lawyer here? We have to check about:
Section 5 of the Federal Trade Commission Act (15 U.S.C. 45)
ESRB
CFPB
Can be free to full the complain under the Section 5 of the FTC Act regarding unfair and deceptive practices related to loot boxes and predatory monetization mechnics.
+1
I really think i am insanely rich in this game and still feels it aint enough to stay on certain level and keep up with so many fast pace releases and changes. It feels like you HAVE to spend money and large amounts if time just to keep up, not even be in top.
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The best way to keep up with others is to sell your gear and not play at all until latest gear comes out.
It is so stupid.
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What I would like to see atm in game:
1. Make some meaningful farm pls. No difference if it will be gold loot or some %luck looted items, but currently state of pve farm: old maps all nerfed, new maps drop nothing, chances for useful items too low, token vendor have nothing, last thing what could be farmed in dune maps is shattered corrupt jewels, but feels like they got removed from mini bosses. Increase chances to loot something in dune maps and at events… people do 1k+ runs and loot nothing (that's not so exciting as you might imagined).
2. Make BoE items back to tradeable type, or atleast stashable.
These 2 changes at new expansion were reason of leaving players.
For future:
3. awakening system could be rewatched, but not that important as 1. and 2.
4. Make pvp mode without procs. Awakes/pet/bonuses of sets, everything work, just no procs, I mean endgame pvp (before dying at 81 expansion) was needed less randomness and less 1hits to be playable. So it would be more about gear/skill(ping)/expierence; 81-91 was no fun at all.
Also adjust damage and heals in pvp for 81-91 lvls. Currently at low lvls pvp damage/heals are 100%, then it is getting decreasing at higher lvls, ending up with around 30% damage/heals at 71lvl, but it was never adjusted again at higher lvls and totally forgotten, so there literally everyone 1hit each other since 81 expansion. Thats not good and need reduce damage/heals more for higher lvls. (Just check latest pvp threads and comments of ppl who was really playing pvp and enjoying it)
You might think pvp is useless, but what's better "player stay in game online and try different modes (even if they aren't straight profitable for devs)" or "player log off faster, bcs nothing to do in game, then repeating it every day, staying in game less and less time, and leaving game at all in the end".
5. Make more game modes just to keep players online and having fun: at dune expansion we can see some beach map, also map from another event to keep guy alive, but it's just daily and solo. Need more multiplayer zones like that. Add fish thing somewhere, racing thing etc (a bit rewarding ofc)
6. Need some stability in game, stop doing tests on players, please. There is no fun of changing meta every month just bcs you decided to change some item. If you release some endgame latest item/set, then make sure to create it perfect, without several nerfs/buffs, or atleast be ready to adjust it in short time, not like after few months/years finding that it was bugged. This will be really appreciated.
Dune weapons not procing in pvp at all. Needs to be fixed. Plus the damage of weapons needs to be fixed/checked as well in pvp
Ye and not play and have fun. I play 2 years and since i started there is ppl merching while they “wait new better gear”
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