Undead Ectoplasm Vials in big 2026

[jeabahty]

just wanted to have a discussion on this and get some inputs from vets of the game or maybe even devs.

i think many of us at this point know about the nekro craft quest, and it is really fun one. but crafting the thing is actually insanely hard almost entirely because the vials are super super rare nowadays, especially post the 2017 planar arena nerf. factor in how expensive the vials really are, and you potentially end up spending more than the sell price of the actual egg itself, thus buying isn't an option either.

which leaves those of us still interested in crafting this with only one option - farming the vials.

going through the forums, i came across several claims and as someone intending to farm the vials, i wanted to clarity on those if possible obviously.
1. what is the best place to vials to drop? the quest says elite shuyal, tindrin and planar tombs but this thread seems to claim drops from shuyal were silently removed? that leaves planar tombs and elite tindrin, so in terms of odds, which ones the best?
2. another thread also claims that the rare mini-bosses in tindrin also have a chance of dropping them. im not sure a specific mob does carry higher chance than normal but would love to be proven wrong here.

ive ran elite shuyal, tindrin planar tombs a combined 1000+ times and have looted only 2 vials so far. idk if these are good odds or terrible, so general info on the drop rates would also be superb.

i can understand why the drops were nerfed considering how the vials had depreciated quickly and eggzavier was also a thing back then, but circumstances right now are different and maybe do warrant a change - at least according to me.

overall, given that the drop rates are abyssmal, both in the maps and the chests, something like this event would be super helpful in my opinion.

lastly, i also think if there's one thing in the game that actually can be considered an achievement, its this - crafting nekro. this is one achievement im sure many players wouldnt mind hunting. and if more players run these maps in lieu of farming the vials, im sure the supply problem will be solved as well. or at least i hope.

anyway, looking forward to comments.

[Zzzzz]

lastly, i also think if there's one thing in the game that actually can be considered an achievement, its this - crafting nekro.

What's point in crafting useless pet? Pet released 2014, was good last time maybe at 2019... If you really still can find something useful about nekro AA - atm there is radyven AA which is better than nekro (gives stacking %ms, more damage from AA, etc). I would prefer to have something farmable/crafrable or quests in latest expansions (dune/elderwoods/zodias), but not shuyal/tindirin
Also about mini bosses in tindirin 5, I killed some of those, never looted vial, they have chance for dragkin tooth (like tindirin bosses), but doesn't look like they have increased chance for vial

[jeabahty]

What's point in crafting useless pet? Pet released 2014, was good last time maybe at 2019... If you really still can find something useful about nekro AA - atm there is radyven AA which is better than nekro (gives stacking %ms, more damage from AA, etc). I would prefer to have something farmable/crafrable or quests in latest expansions (dune/elderwoods/zodias), but not shuyal/tindirin
Also about mini bosses in tindirin 5, I killed some of those, never looted vial, they have chance for dragkin tooth (like tindirin bosses), but doesn't look like they have increased chance for vial

hmm idk about you but id much rather get an achievement for crafting something the game actually provides, has an interesting questline for, and used to be a solid source of a good pet for early game, than some bs cash grab or mindnumbing useless runs or spend/earn money achievements. thats just me tho.

also not a fan of spending 8-10m for a pet. if i can craft it for free, why not?

[Voorge]

significant increase of old “rare” materials would be good in general, elite chests, vials, shells, antignome, banished pieces… there is plenty really
just make farming somewhat rewarding
right now if you don’t farm aps you don’t even need to step foot in any elite content maybe except latest maps for gold loot, kinda sad because these never feel the same


all that is old content, not game breaking nor useful but just out of pure nostalgia I would definitely run these once again (if the odds were higher)

[jeabahty]

significant increase of old “rare” materials would be good in general, elite chests, vials, shells, antignome, banished pieces… there is plenty really
just make farming somewhat rewarding
right now if you don’t farm aps you don’t even need to step foot in any elite content maybe except latest maps for gold loot, kinda sad because these never feel the same


all that is old content, not game breaking nor useful but just out of pure nostalgia I would definitely run these once again (if the odds were higher)

hard agree! i said the same thing in the grievances and some part of the recent qol posts. man if they eased up on the drop rates of those items, those nostalgia runs would hit hard!

[intruders]

Yeah that old content rare items are super rare for sure. Odds are so low that a single player alone back then couldn't farm all vials, antignome, banished etc and people had to buy it.

Here are some facts. On my hardcore toon that I been playing for 5+ years I opened more than 1k arena chests - 0 vials. I have only 2 of them in my inventory after completing 1k boss aps multiple times over these years. I am probably the only HC player who farmed entire antignome set and it took me enormous number of runs to loot belt and helm (overall took 8 months farming when cryo was open) and then several thousands elite umbral chasm runs to loot banished ring. Then I got lucky to find dimensional portal only after 100+ runs but guess what? While I was staring at the portal enjoying its appearance it disappeared without a notice lol and I didn't get banished amulet. Needless to say it didn't spawn again in the rest 800+ runs to 1k boss aps and I just gave up on it for now.
Restored mythic quest is another example of a grind (took 1700+ elite golden pirate chests to loot mythic helm, 0 arcane btw) but at least it gives aps.

So looking back I'd say it was designed to be extremely hard, almost impossible to complete those things by a single person.
Ironically, those antignome and banished sets weren't op and those few who got them couldn't even enjoy them for long.

[jeabahty]

Yeah that old content rare items are super rare for sure. Odds are so low that a single player alone back then couldn't farm all vials, antignome, banished etc and people had to buy it.

Here are some facts. On my hardcore toon that I been playing for 5+ years I opened more than 1k arena chests - 0 vials. I have only 2 of them in my inventory after completing 1k boss aps multiple times over these years. I am probably the only HC player who farmed entire antignome set and it took me enormous number of runs to loot belt and helm (overall took 8 months farming when cryo was open) and then several thousands elite umbral chasm runs to loot banished ring. Then I got lucky to find dimensional portal only after 100+ runs but guess what? While I was staring at the portal enjoying its appearance it disappeared without a notice lol and I didn't get banished amulet. Needless to say it didn't spawn again in the rest 800+ runs to 1k boss aps and I just gave up on it for now.
Restored mythic quest is another example of a grind (took 1700+ elite golden pirate chests to loot mythic helm, 0 arcane btw) but at least it gives aps.

So looking back I'd say it was designed to be extremely hard, almost impossible to complete those things by a single person.
Ironically, those antignome and banished sets weren't op and those few who got them couldn't even enjoy them for long.

great points, all just seem to reinforce the same thing - greatly improve odds/drops of these older items, not just vials. would make these quests more fruitful if you could just get all items by some farming rather than just straight away buy them. hope the devs do something about this in making it easier to run solo and get these older farm-and-craft things done.