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    Default Remove / Reduce Auction Listing Cooldown

    About ~7 months ago a 3 second cooldown was added when posting multiple listings.
    This makes bulk listing unnecessarily slow and frustrating, especially during events.

    Please consider:
    - Remove the cooldown, or
    - Reduce it to 0.5–1.0s, or
    - Apply it only after X listings per minute (soft rate limit)

    A fixed 3s delay punishes normal trading more than it prevents abuse.
    Better approach is a soft limit based on volume, not a hard cooldown on every listing.

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    This Anti-QoL cooldown is why I don’t craft & sell jewels anymore.

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    What items that you need to create multiple listings for aren’t stackable? Explain to me your flow (pain) with actual items.

    -ALS

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    Quote Originally Posted by asommers View Post
    What items that you need to create multiple listings for aren’t stackable? Explain to me your flow (pain) with actual items.

    -ALS
    the magic word “pain” idk if im gonna cry/laugh. peace


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    Quote Originally Posted by asommers View Post
    What items that you need to create multiple listings for aren’t stackable? Explain to me your flow (pain) with actual items.

    -ALS
    If we could list blue/elite/arcane awakes without any cooldown on them that would be great but only those since some/a lot of people buy plat to list them 1 by 1 in auc


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    Quote Originally Posted by Killyxan View Post
    If we could list blue/elite/arcane awakes without any cooldown on them that would be great but only those since some/a lot of people buy plat to list them 1 by 1 in auc
    Not convincing enough. We let you sell stacks to avoid having to list one by one.

    -ALS

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    Quote Originally Posted by asommers View Post
    Not convincing enough. We let you sell stacks to avoid having to list one by one.

    -ALS
    That's cool and all but just like there's no cooldown for buying there shouldn't be a cooldown for listing.
    Most people sort from lowest price to highest, listing multiple at lower makes them seen earlier and thus bought earlier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asommers View Post
    Not convincing enough. We let you sell stacks to avoid having to list one by one.

    -ALS
    If the stack is above 100 can the cooldown be reduced?

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    Quote Originally Posted by asommers View Post
    What items that you need to create multiple listings for aren’t stackable? Explain to me your flow (pain) with actual items.

    -ALS
    1st of all, only problem without cooldown was at easter event when ppl tried manipulate price by listing 1 by 1 eggs to make them cheaper and then buy bulks.

    Examples about listing many things to auc where cooldown is really bad:
    - pet eggs, ppl have a lot legendary/epic eggs, personally for me: i'm lazy to check every egg price of those rarities, easier just check cheapest and list all of them for same price… with current cooldown it takes years to list those pets at auc.
    - someone already mentioned above: jewels and jewel farm
    - in some maps legendary gears drop a lot and they valued still (nightmare raid as example), so again, cooldown at auc doesn't let me list them all fast, and with cooldown its really easier to delete then listing to auc
    - blue awakes/red awakes, they get sold better when list them like 50-200 pcs, not 999. Listing red awakes by 50 pcs with cooldown takes a lot time too.
    - there really a lot more examples can be brought here by other ppl

    And also what's important to mention, using bot/autoclicker won't suffer of this cooldown of putting cheap easter eggs to auc to manipulate prices, person just put delay on his bot 3 sec between listing easter eggs 1 by 1, and then from other device/acc he buy cheap eggs when somebody list it and his scheme works as before. So this feature makes things worse only for normal players.

    My suggestion on it: keep cooldown and make it longer but ONLY on easter eggs and only during easter event and only for SAME listings, also there is no point having cooldown on listing different type of items, I put all green eggs to auc, then try put all blue but there cooldown, waiting..zzzz. then listing blue eggs, trying put red eggs, again cooldown zzzzz… It's not needed like that… only cooldown needed when ppl try to list same type of eggs.

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    In short, the 3-second cooldown may feel restrictive on an individual level, but it functions as a protective constraint for the overall economy. Removing or significantly reducing it risks trading stability for short-term convenience


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    Quote Originally Posted by asommers View Post
    What items that you need to create multiple listings for aren’t stackable? Explain to me your flow (pain) with actual items.
    gotcha. stacks help sometimes, but the pain is when ur listing a LOT of separate stuff fast and the 3s hits every single post even if ur not spamming the same item
    bots dont care btw, they just add sleep(3) and keep going, legit players just sit there staring at the button lol

    real flows where stacks dont really solve it
    - event items like eggs (tons of singles, different rarities, quick price check -> list -> repeat)
    - jewels / crafting output (u end up with many separate pieces, not one mega stack, and the craft->sell loop becomes slow)
    - awakes (selling 50-200 batches is normal, not everyone wants 999, and each batch gets the same delay)

    best compromise imo
    soft rate limit kicks in only after X listings per min
    OR cooldown only when u relist same item type over and over
    not a flat 3s on everything

    Quote Originally Posted by Zzzzz View Post
    And also what's important to mention, using bot/autoclicker won't suffer of this cooldown of putting cheap easter eggs to auc to manipulate prices, person just put delay on his bot 3 sec between listing easter eggs 1 by 1, and then from other device/acc he buy cheap eggs when somebody list it and his scheme works as before. So this feature makes things worse only for normal players.
    yeah this is the point. fixed cooldown doesnt stop automation it just taxes normal ppl. rate limit based on volume makes way more sense


    Quote Originally Posted by Encryptions View Post
    If the stack is above 100 can the cooldown be reduced?
    yep scaling cooldown by stack size is smart
    big stack / bulk listing should be faster not slower
    even 0.5-1s would feel normal, 3s is just pain


    Quote Originally Posted by Oldplayerreturn View Post
    That's cool and all but just like there's no cooldown for buying there shouldn't be a cooldown for listing.
    Most people sort from lowest price to highest, listing multiple at lower makes them seen earlier and thus bought earlier.
    facts. buying is instant, listing feels like a loading screen
    if you wanna stop abuse, target spam patterns not normal listing


    Quote Originally Posted by dmqp View Post
    This Anti-QoL cooldown is why I don’t craft & sell jewels anymore.
    same. makes selling after crafting feel not worth the time sometimes


    Quote Originally Posted by Murraya View Post
    In short, the 3-second cooldown may feel restrictive on an individual level, but it functions as a protective constraint for the overall economy. Removing or significantly reducing it risks trading stability for short-term convenience
    i get the economy angle, im not saying “no limits”
    im saying the current limit is blunt. soft-limit / same-item cooldown protects the market better AND doesnt punish regular trading


    Quote Originally Posted by Killyxan View Post
    If we could list blue/elite/arcane awakes without any cooldown on them that would be great but only those since some/a lot of people buy plat to list them 1 by 1 in auc
    awaken is def one case, but not the only one. events + jewels + mixed listings all get hit too


    anyway devs if u wanna keep the protection, totally fair
    just pls make it smarter than 3s every click

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    Egg hunt is close, definitely not a good idea to make any changes here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by asommers View Post
    Not convincing enough. We let you sell stacks to avoid having to list one by one.

    -ALS
    Just wondering, what's the point of a 250 AUC slot? Has anyone sold 250 vanity or gear items in one or two days? Crafting items, furnishings, and packs can be sold in bulk in a single listing. Is the 250 auction slot only for Aps? Is it for players to use platinum?

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    Quote Originally Posted by asommers View Post
    Not convincing enough. We let you sell stacks to avoid having to list one by one.

    -ALS
    Many list 1 by 1 still is just a matter of time so it dosent change anything for u but changes a lot for the players which is saving time… it’s annoying by itself to wait 3 seconds each time u have to list


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