Fox needs a nerf ASAP (pvp)

[pleasepvpme]

This complaint has arose often, and in a desperate attempt for sts to listen, im making one aswell. To summarize, fox in low level is just too broken. Its ridiculous. A fox shouldnt be able to shred any opponent into negative hp (120 shred). Please bring fox back to the original 60 shred or make a different adjustment, im not too good at this stuff but everyone agrees its just ridiculous. Bear is fox's biggest counter, yet they often need to luck out hard to win. Foxes can shred a bear in 2 hits.

[MageFFA]

PL runs off of an Armor Mitigation. 1 armor is about equal to .5% damage reduction. Obviously there is going to be some hidden stats that i don’t know about but the concept is the same. At 100 armor (equivalent to 50% damage reduction) someone with 324 damage can hit me and I’ll only take around 165 of it. If I had 34 armor instead (equivalent to 17% damage reduction) I’ll take 260plus. The more armor you have the less damage you take. Now obviously there are ways that classes can counter armor in PvP, and in general. Let’s list them off shall we?


Bears can reduce armor through Super Mega Slash(-10) and Hell Scream(-10)
Mages can reduce armor through Frostbite(-5) Lightning(-5, stacks 4 times) and Nightmare(-30)
Birds can reduce armor by Break Armor(-26) and Shattering Scream(-24)
Foxes can reduce armor by Shred Armor(-110, stacks twice for -170)

Now there is clearly one ability that seems to be completely excessive in how much total armor it reduces. The consequences of this is seen in every PvP level below 65. A single Shred will put you into the negatives on every class until around L51. If someone with 324 damage hits someone with 0 armor they will take absolutely all 324. My fists hits for 65-115 damage an auto attack, which is ironically 45 more damage than my fully kitted up bird is capable of doing. A 35 Fox can hit a 613 crit auto attack on a bird which is roughly 200 more damage than that birds total health.

Let’s not leave endgame out of this either. So because shred stacks twice does that mean foxes reduce enemy armor value by 40% after being stacked? So if I buff for 4,062 armor and a fox hits 2 shreds on me am I really left with 2.4k armor? So not only are foxes allowed to be a 13-18 meter auto turret because of their low dash cooldowns which they can spam at will, you also have no effective way to build around countering their damage. Nice.