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    Default SM or bigtop?

    For mage?
    For bear?

    Also how would I spec my mage on SM?

    Atm 128 str 67 dex and 97 or so int

    Should i go 128 str and full dex or 128 str and full int?


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    Default SM or bigtop?

    Bear: Strongman. My reason: Bear is better with armor/damage, and the loss of dodge is only around 3.
    Mage: Either. If you want str/int, you need Big Top, if you want str/dex, go Strongman. Reason(s): Int/str needs a little extra hit, so you go for that set. That's the only reason. If you use dex/str, strongman IS the stronger over all set (IMO). You should test both if you are able, but if you can only get one, go for Strongman.

    (str/dex stats: enough str for set, 11 int, rest dex)
    (str/int stats: enough str for set, rest int)

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    however half int has 27 extra dmage at the cost of 8 hit%
    Last edited by Twinklaser; 12-25-2012 at 12:42 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twinklaser View Post
    however half int has 27 extra dmage at the cost of 8 hit%
    Which is why I said BT over SM for int/str.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zapoke View Post
    Bear: Strongman. My reason: Bear is better with armor/damage, and the loss of dodge is only around 3.
    Mage: Either. If you want str/int, you need Big Top, if you want str/dex, go Strongman. Reason(s): Int/str needs a little extra hit, so you go for that set. That's the only reason. If you use dex/str, strongman IS the stronger over all set (IMO). You should test both if you are able, but if you can only get one, go for Strongman.

    (str/dex stats: enough str for set, 11 int, rest dex)
    (str/int stats: enough str for set, rest int)
    Agreed on mage. SM is better. You cant rely on dodge anyways and heal away most hit debuffs (except for blinding shot) so you should go for the extra armor/damage.

    For bears I'd go for BT any day. Mainly because of the hit%, the extra dodge is just a nice bonus. Hitting your beckon and debuffs is crucial and gives you control over the fight. I easily beat SM bears, Int/Dex mages and Birds on my bear with BT.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaunab View Post
    Agreed on mage. SM is better. You cant rely on dodge anyways and heal away most hit debuffs (except for blinding shot) so you should go for the extra armor/damage.

    For bears I'd go for BT any day. Mainly because of the hit%, the extra dodge is just a nice bonus. Hitting your beckon and debuffs is crucial and gives you control over the fight. I easily beat SM bears, Int/Dex mages and Birds on my bear with BT.
    I argue with a lot of my friends about this (or rather, use to) because they all use BT.. and told me to get it. I got SM for the set bonus instead, and still beat them. SM >> BT vs Mages anyway, and tbh, there's not much difference vs Bears. I have 95 hit % or so.. can't remember exactly. So honestly.. doesn't make a difference, that extra hit % on BT. For me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zapoke View Post
    I argue with a lot of my friends about this (or rather, use to) because they all use BT.. and told me to get it. I got SM for the set bonus instead, and still beat them. SM >> BT vs Mages anyway, and tbh, there's not much difference vs Bears. I have 95 hit % or so.. can't remember exactly. So honestly.. doesn't make a difference, that extra hit % on BT. For me.
    As I said, I dont have a SM mage myself but I find them harder to beat then the BT pallies.
    However, on bears hit% is much more crucial. Do you have a SM bear? If so hmu on Lysdexicbear.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gaunab View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Zapoke View Post
    I argue with a lot of my friends about this (or rather, use to) because they all use BT.. and told me to get it. I got SM for the set bonus instead, and still beat them. SM >> BT vs Mages anyway, and tbh, there's not much difference vs Bears. I have 95 hit % or so.. can't remember exactly. So honestly.. doesn't make a difference, that extra hit % on BT. For me.
    As I said, I dont have a SM mage myself but I find them harder to beat then the BT pallies.
    However, on bears hit% is much more crucial. Do you have a SM bear? If so hmu on Lysdexicbear.
    I was talking about bears 100% on that. :P and yes I do. Mine is Zapokeofbears.

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    okie thankie but should i use 8 armor and 2 hit or 8 armor and 2 dodge?
    Last edited by omgitsbri; 12-25-2012 at 07:35 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by omgitsbri View Post
    okie thankie but should i use 8 armor and 2 hit or 8 armor and 2 dodge?
    SM: armor/hit
    BT: armor/dodge

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zapoke View Post
    SM: armor/hit
    BT: armor/dodge
    *SM: armor/damage
    BT: armor/dodge/hit*

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    Quote Originally Posted by MightyMicah View Post
    *SM: armor/damage
    BT: armor/dodge/hit*
    Zappy was giving me which rings to use with the set, not the attributes of each set ^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by omgitsbri View Post
    Zappy was giving me which rings to use with the set, not the attributes of each set ^^
    Oh whoops. Epic fail on me :P sorry!

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    Uh... Big top for bears, sm for other classes. I wish life was as simple as that XD! (Or maybe not...)

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    Sigh bri, take it from a guy who has 3 of each lvl 56 sets and has used every combo of every class with every spec.
    Big top bear with acrobats fine platnium band. 2 dodge 10 damage. 128 str rest dex.
    Sm pally. 128 str 11 int rest dex. Use the 2 hit/ 10 damage ring.
    Sm warbird if ur that nasty is 128 str rest dex 2 dodge/10 damage ring.
    Big top pally is ok, but sm trashes it. Big top bear will beat an sm bear any day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Everyone'sFavMage View Post
    Sigh bri, take it from a guy who has 3 of each lvl 56 sets and has used every combo of every class with every spec.
    Big top bear with acrobats fine platnium band. 2 dodge 10 damage. 128 str rest dex.
    Sm pally. 128 str 11 int rest dex. Use the 2 hit/ 10 damage ring.
    Sm warbird if ur that nasty is 128 str rest dex 2 dodge/10 damage ring.
    Big top pally is ok, but sm trashes it. Big top bear will beat an sm bear any day.
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    Gf tho.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Everyone'sFavMage View Post
    Big top bear will beat an sm bear any day.
    No. (: I beat BabyBugz's BT bear with my SM bear.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zapoke View Post
    No. (: I beat BabyBugz's BT bear with my SM bear.
    BabyBugz sucks tho.

    BT>SM for bears.

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    I love beating strongman bears on my death bird. Their hit% gets wrecked and then they wonder why they lost

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