I need someone who's actually playing the game to reply to this, we can't be playing the same game at all🤣. Anyone? SomeoneOriginally Posted by Naimadark
I need someone who's actually playing the game to reply to this, we can't be playing the same game at all🤣. Anyone? Someone
Garbage game I'll come back in 5years sell my vanities for 30b and afk in a dead game u can't even farm anything as new player yes fk this game theres better games it's just nothing fun left to do
As someone who has put thousands of dollars and probably 10,000+ hours into this game, no it's not. Unless you like to gamble your money and enjoy the basic concept of the game then yeah, maybe this is for you.
If you enjoy running the same map 50,000 times and looting the same thing 50,000 times, then this game might be for you.
If you enjoy games that are heavily P2W or even Pay to Play, then this game might be for you.
I'm not being funny either, this is how it actually is. I could go on and on and if not for my huge investment into this company I wouldn't even waste another second of my time coming here.
As an old player who hasn’t played in aaaaaageeees, I just want to remind everyone that it’s a game! Enjoy every second if it, because once it’s gone, you’ll be left with nothing but memories and nostalgia. Remember to appreciate every second of it! I’d love to come back to the game but it’s just not possible with my current lifestyle!
Let loose and have fun, toodles!
If you haven’t played in ages you don’t have a say on this, i’m sorry but that’s the reality like it or not. You just don’t know how things are going.
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yes we did actually. we enjoyed the game, i believe all players here were enjoying the game. its just today AL dont value players time playing this game anymore. thats the reality atm sadly
Stick to osrs, i've played both games, osrs for around 10 years and AL around 6 months. The only time i actually had fun in this game was during the pet rescue and arlorian boss hunt events. Osrs end game is flawless, because the developers are very careful about the items they release so that they don't make older exisiting ones irrelevant while AL does the opposite.
basically swap visa buy stuff wait for price to inflate sell for profit focus on a demanding item control the market profit , this game economy its so inbalanced one item can cost 100m today and 200m tomorrow and there ll be buyers because there isnt enough items to compete , one guy can buy all and resell for double if they wanted and had enough cash to control the market for a item etc.
Ill give u a example buy all the hotbars and tomorrow the price of that item itll be double and there will be buyers and so on
Speaking of playing the game well u just wasting ur time and isnt very fun either unless u have latest etc things u cant do much but leach for gold loot and repeat sounds fun right? u also need mutliple sets and procs to clear maps alone for exmaple if u have full 8/8 blood u cant clear maps alone cause u have 6-7 sec dmg and 20 sec cooldown and after mobs one shoot u dont do any dmg but if u have latest vail set u x4-x5 ur stats and be unkillable yea power creep to the roof and bound to character also prices on items are inbalanced af rogue item ca cost 50m and same item for mage or war can be 150m , or one item can be 40 m and tomorrow 100m and after tmorrow 200m and if u equip its gone , if people stop spending price on item bound will just go up since there wont be any stock etc look what happend to storm wep it was 200-300 on release now the wep go for 1.2b or more bound rocks and limited and super op to make people spend.
im glad there arent new players because the whole experience will be horrible u basically have to go beg for money in the map where everyone afks because there isnt any chance for u to farm anything for even get 1-2 items but u need like 3-4 sets endgame todo anything at least 2 sets for leaching gold loot so basically swipe visa man
So no matter how many hours a time ull farm gold ure probably valued at 0.5$ a hour of ur time if thats ur job farming gold cause its not fun, its very sad what devs lazyness and greed did to this game , we can call it farming simulator cause the whole reason people are keep playing this game its to get rich inside the game and be sugar daddy or something
the whole experience of playing this game its keep u addicted squeeze u like a milking cow give u dopamine by being op cause u got the newst items but that wont last more than 3months and u gotta spend again and agian and again unless u want to run 10h a day of gold loot like its your job, and the rich top players can just buy 10b worth of stuff resell in 1month and make as much as u made in a year by manipulating market so gg dont make the mistake of being too invested into the game and thats the reason this game will be like 500 players or less in few years only those that are invested will stay and die rich in a empty game because there arent any new players and they wont be any new players in future everyone knows this specially the devs thats why there was 0 promotion in years for this game
im glad there arent any new players cause the whole experience its begging and u wont even have money for a speed set
but if u still insist on playing this game ull need like 200$ budget buy plats buy keys sell them later not when u buy them check calendar , make like 1b budget on a good day , buy blood set buy 3 veil, buy gold loot and u can hop on 10h a day gold loot farm thats basically the gameplay, also check prices on items before u build any class some classes can be 2-3 times more expensive cause inbalanced player ratio
The amount of people that are whining about how this game works and how they wanna change how it works is ridiculous, its fairly easy and simple if you hate how it works just QUIT, devs aren't gonna please everyone with their choices in the end it's THEIR GAME that THEY WORKED ON AND CREATED, they aren't running ads to profit back they're profiting back mainly from in app purchases, that's one of the main reasons the game is p2w, not saying the game is not f2p, ik people that have 0 plat purchases with billions stacked on their accs it takes time it takes a certain mindset to achieve this, and ngl devs are making it fairly easy to get gold in this game, they increased GL drops by alot people are getting 80k+ each run in dune WITH A BAD-MID GL SET that's not the only way to make gold tho, you have merch, you have events, you have hoarding you just gotta work for it don't expect to get billions overnight doing nothing and ngl you don't even need gold to have fun you can log and connect with other players and have fun and talk with them and make friends, so instead of whining of the game's mechanics and how it should work maybe go and have fun or go work for the things you want, i get it their are some things that needs to be discussed with devs but whining over and over when devs gave an answer won't change a single thing..
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so i guess we should praise the devs and the game also people like u are the reason this game end up like this , if people would cut the spending ull see how fast devs will listen and improve the game but all they are waiting is a new play sale bigger so they can stock up more gold bars and manipulate the poor and exploit a bad game design in their favor good job man ure right i wasted my time whining about the game i should ve just forget it exist and trow in the the trash bin like i did 10 years ago but back then was actually enjoyable unlike now
Tf did i do LMAO, not my fault ur broke like what??
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yes but for endgame need p2p or endless hours of f2p
Yes. I would come back any time. I camed back 3-4 months ago and invested again in game and now I have full veil.
Game is looking nice, alot of updates !
Not worth it. Im a new player. No amount of platinum buying will get you onpar with the Free to play players who controls the gold market. It’s a game enjoyed by the older players.
No Battlepass, no platinum sets you have to gamble like $200 worth of platinum to get base equipment and another $200 worth of platinum for awakening.
You can also invest another $500 worth of platinum so you can buy a shabby gold loot set but be ready to grind 8 hours, 7 days a week for 10M gold.
Trust me, the people selling sets, gold, and accounts in Facebook marketplaces get more profit than this Spacetime Company, I swear. XD
its dead just quit alrdy bruh
Yes but make sure you buy a bunch of plat or farm 24/7
Resurrection
Would be too hard to do anything, unless you have spare money to progress fast. But even then, will you gain pleasure from gameplay of this kind?
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I've quit and returned to this game dozens of times throughout the years. I just came back a couple weeks ago after a 3 year break. Nostalgia was the reason. I hate to say that I'm disappointed with this p2w system and with the devs not listening to the community's opinions and requests. I think we all know that nostalgia is probably the only thing keeping us in touch with the game for most people. For example: if I were to stumble upon this game for the first time in 2026, I'd prolly uninstall it 30 mins later. That's why AL won't and can't have new players, because the current state of the game isn't made for starters, and no starter will spend money on a random new app they downloaded on a thursday morning.
Main: Lwca || Hardcore: Scodah
The AI know this now too:
People are pretty divided on this older mobile MMO. Long-time players love the nostalgia, but most agree the game's current state is a huge problem.
Key complaints:
· "Pay-to-Win" and extreme grinding, with huge advantages for those who spend real money.
· Terrible for new players, who can't make money or find groups because veterans clear everything too fast.
· Crippling inflation, making essential end-game items insanely expensive.
· Account issues, including unfair bans and lost access.
· Class imbalance (Warriors being overpowered) and connection/performance issues.
· No Chinese or Russian language support (official versions).
Revive this game
I think everyone who tried to analyze where the game goes stumbled upon certainty that it's direction leads nowhere. Also, many shared their ideas, which might or may not work. I came up with some that definitely make the game better and revive it, if these points are actually minded and at least partially followed. I'll touch the crucial ones and suggest how those can be turned in right way.
1. - Online games are interesting because we play with other different people, and right now there are no any new people. Lets put aside lack of advertisement, because you can't advertise something ubearably hard and unfair, hoping people will be engaged.
Right now, game is impossible for someone new: you can't reach average gear state on your own, always being below. There is nothing bad in being carried by the others on hard locations, but we are speaking about simple ones, yet too hard for beginners. Want an experiment? Try to reach at least 81 lv in HC mode, be it solo, duo or trio: locations from Nordr to Glinstone would be long and difficult, but starting with Somberholt we can name it impossible.
2. - Gear obtaining, basically, the core factor of character build from level 81 to 91. And right now, you can't get proper gear on your own, without market being involved. You either pay loads of gold or loads of money: adding it to the fact, that the game already requires alot of time to play, we can say that it's not worth it for new players even to begin, and not to mention average ones, who rely on the Whales to open another bunch of crates, so they can buy new gear listed by them.
3. - Back then events were less frequent but more qualitative: players from different income groups could participate, earn, and in some extent spend their time better. Right now, events are launched more often, but the quality overall tremendously dropped: only few per season are worth to spending time to; not to mention that it will require at least average gear(you can't participate if you don't have it), so not every group of players are involved in playing.
4. - The game by itself doesn't offer you anything even remotely entertaining outside events: back then all the locations were inhabited by players, people used to farm items for different purposes which no one used to sell, PvP zones were always busy, not a niche hobby, APs farming was also useful, since we had certain drops useful for current levels, and as mentioned you wasn't the one to do it alone: online games are far renowned for cooperative and playing in groups, not by doing such things in solo. Right now, people have precisely two options: grind gold on one same location, which isn't nerfed yet, and run for APs(hardly interesting to kill 1000 bosses with no loot to suit 91 lv player, also doing it alone).
5. - Lack of proper APs to available in-game activities doesn't make it any better: there was sense in playing HC for those APs, another nice thing in playing PvP. If someones used to consider HC uninteresting, he still might had an idea to pass it through for the APs. But since there is no any(also consider First Point mentioned), if players is not spending loads of money in the game, then they are not even touching this mode.
So, as core things which require changes are mentioned , let's hop to the ways, how it can be done and the damage undone.
1) Let's make it simple: if Hardcore Mode is impossible for F2P veterans, then it will be as hard for new players to progress in the Normal Mode. So, you need to take party of presumably 3-4 players, who trying to pass location. Take average amount of required armor and damage of these people to make it to the strongest boss without dying(obviously with proper tactics) and kill it(not necessarily fast, but possible). Whats the problem? None of players will have proper gear to do so: it just don't drop or have miserable chances to do so. Not like miserable chances are necessarily inexpedient thing, but speaking in terms of low lvl gear which WILL become obsolete in just 5 levels, it is absolutely terrible to ran through Shuyal 5 times in order to loot anything usable, just to leave it behind 5 levels later. Simple suggestion is to expand loot table of those bosses to make them loot useful items. F.E. you made Elder Woods and Dune bosses 100% guarantee to drop random legendary gear for random classes. All the bosses from locations below SHOULD have proper(not miserable) chance to drop random legendary gear of the fixed location level. The bosses of each location SHOULD also contain a pet in his loot table (old ones pets, which were released along with the expansions. Useless in modern terms for pro players; Useful in beginner predicaments for new players).
2) New gear were released in the game! Awesome, but how can you get it F2P by yourself? That's the neat thing: you don't. Certain bosses of 76lv+ locations MUST contain gear in their loot table. Simple example: since Zaarus and Kraken became obsolete, Ekenta/Mecharydon/Rahabkor can drop(with some chance) Zaarus items; Elite type of these bosses can drop certain Arcane/Kraken items. MechAnubis can contain better items of that type, more cheap and less useful Kraken pieces can be substracted from his loot table. Each vendor of 46lv+ locations absolutely MUST contain crates for the locations currency: would add proper reasons to ran through locations to farm currency, would give players opportunity to obtain proper gear for their level by playing the game, would utilize 2x currency daily events. (Vardan Valley is a remote, but still not really good example because of the crate price)
3) Not every event should be useful and playable by all groups of players: there can be and should be events for certain type of players only: F.E. Competetive Leaderboard events for Top players solely, it is reasonable. But what is unreasonable is to make each second or third event for certain people groups, and each fourth useless and boring for everyone: events can be laucnhed less frequently, if you want to, but their overall quality should be better. Not even to walk far: current Faction Wars event. Is it useful for new players? They won't get anything from it, no reasons to play. Is it useful for average players? Someone might have willing to drop something, but we are speaking not few players from the class, but about everyone from the group: it is indeed useless. The only group which can participate is the one which aims towards lb places. Event requires no energy - precisely for people who have flawless gear for elite zone and 23 hours spare time each day. Not like it is bad to launch such events once in a while, but we literally had same vibe previous month: not cool, rather awful. Events should be more rewarding to the majority of players despite their finances, as also encouraging better ones for lb competition, not making MAJORITY of the events SOLELY for certain people, leaving the others behind.
4) You can look at PvP and shrug it off as a "Not prior direction of the game", but take few minutes and make simple thought experiment: imagine there is no more gold loot in the game. Like, bosses drop 1 coin, thats all. There won't be any sense of playing the game for the majority of players, the ones who is left are just afk on the non-PvE zones talking to each other, using the game mostly like a chat. And that exactly the thing that is happened with PvP: not rewarding, not encouraging, left behind underdeveloped. New gear not even balanced for this Mode. And you lost ALL the players who used to play the game and make purchases in order to be TOP PvP. Game should contain more entertaining elements, not only PvP, for all of those who don't care about grinding, but yet like to play the game. Deathmatch, Flag Capture, FFA, Racing, Fishing: there is much more things which can be added for competitive side and entertainment.
5) Removing certain APs are definetely was a last nail to the coffin of certain modes. Revamping Hardcore Mode and PvP experience along with adding proper APs for those modes will be refreshing touch: good APs with titles, certain rewards like banners or vanity for the ones who did those, will pouch new and more players into playing the game.
Overall
1. - Involve more developers in the game: distribution of current process between small group of people can be and, in fact, is exhausting. The more people are in labour regarding the project, the better quality it has, the less chances to "burn out"(if it didn't happened years ago).
2. - Good game is a no-brainer: if spending real life currency is optional, the more chances it is going to be spent, rather then leaving it as an only option. People should have opportunity to obtain things they want via playing the game, not relying on the spenders.
3. - Slowly but surely: hard to do everything at once, so it's better to perform it step by step. Make quality improvements over time, and eventually the project will come to an appropriate state.
4. - Advertisement. Right now, in the current project state, it is destined to fail. But if mentioned ways of improvement are followed, then game can come to it's Resurrection, and the new players will be engaged.
5. - Find investments. I think this one is quite self-explanatory. If you are happen to have plans of resurrecting the game, and approximate estimation of your finances is "Not enough", then it is correct and proper idea to involve more money for continuing development and improvement of the project further.
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