also, please give us free respecs during this beta.
also, please give us free respecs during this beta.
Second that!
I agree! If this PvP is gonna be a major part of the game, we should be able to adapt...Originally Posted by dakota1988
Been playing for a few hours now, evidently the classes are unbalanced. As a sorc with a dps of 273 my main complaint is with the warrior class. Rogues are clearly doing a bit too much damage, a maxed out mage vs a maxed out rogue shouldn't be a 1 hit wonder of a battle. However i've found most of my kills come from rogues, a fireball stun followed up by a quick lightning/frost combo is sometimes enough.
When facing a tank however, I mean why even bother? I run from every warrior I see even if I've got another mage stood by me, I watch them just solo around the maps cleaving through everything. The same warrior could kill me three times before I'd done enough damage to put him down and all I do is chain damage spells, some of the warrior skills effectively make escape impossible and entrapment a certainty.
Essentially after having put a lot of time and effort (not to mention real money, sts) into a powerful sorcerer he's rendered useless at the hands of a class who have a more useful set of support skills and deal out enough damage to cleave through a mage before taking a scratch. Curse is useless as the fights never last long enough, clock doesn't appear to be snaring/rooting effectively and even my frost doesn't seem to slow a warrior down. Not when he can leap halfway across the map at me or (?!) pull me towards him with some sort of chain and then just bludgeon me at close range.
I just don't see why any decent pvp team would want a mage on board? We have no skill set that makes us more useful than either the rogue or warrior in any pvp situation. It's still fun, but I hope something gets done to fix up the imbalances.
Last edited by Tribalware; 01-19-2013 at 08:28 AM.
Agreed.
This is still in beta, and it needs alot of work before its anywhere as good as pl. Respecs need to be free for a time so that people can test out different stat and skill combos. Still good though.
Warriors are ridiculously overpowered...it's almost impossible so that a sorcerer can 1vs1...please reduce their damage, because 3k health 900 armor and 150dps is OP...i am not a full built mage, but still with my 500 armor 1500health and 150 dps i get oneshoted by rogue, and die in 5 sec vs a warrior...please balance them, reduce warriors dmg or durability and i know that rogues are assassins..but come on 1 shot a mage? it's not fun at all, even if I stay behind, everyody knows mages how easily die they jump on me and dead...no fun.
I'm totally agree, I have a full built mage, max everything, but can easily killed by a rogue or war, mage is slow and low HP.
War is suppose to have low dame right? how come they can kill me like an ant like that? I can't even run from War or rogue since they have chase skill, if I stand and fight with a War, I will die within 3s.
War's Buff HP is totally OVERPOWERED, can't kill them when they have that skill lol.
Not balance I must say...
So far, I think mage is underpowered by this game, in both PvP and PvE. In PvE, it's ok for a team which doesn't have mage, in fact, they could even clear the map or kill boss faster with 3 rogue and 1 tank. For PvP, so far, it's so easily to kill a mage, and so hard for mage to kill any other beside another mage.
I have mage, rogue and war all lv21 and max gears for all of them, so I'm not bias at all. Just say my opinion after nearly 2 months playing.
Last edited by Xman; 01-19-2013 at 08:11 AM.
I agree, however a mage can kill bosses too. Im a good help for my team because i freeze and heal. And even under attack i manage to survive because i have my pet and my POTIONS!! without them i might as well be 'naked' -.- I realize how difficult it must be to balance the three types in battle, but this giant gap between warriors/rogues and sorcerers is kinda ridiculous..I'm totally agree, I have a full built mage, max everything, but can easily killed by a rogue or war, mage is slow and low HP.
War is suppose to have low dame right? how come they can kill me like an ant like that? I can't even run from War or rogue since they have chase skill, if I stand and fight with a War, I will die within 3s.
War's Buff HP is totally OVERPOWERED, can't kill them when they have that skill lol.
Not balance I must say...
So far, I think mage is underpowered by this game, in both PvP and PvE. In PvE, it's ok for a team which doesn't have mage, in fact, they could even clear the map or kill boss faster with 3 rogue and 1 tank. For PvP, so far, it's so easily to kill a mage, and so hard for mage to kill any other beside another mage
I have mage, rogue and war all lv21 and max gears for all of them, so I'm not bias at all. Just say my opinion after nearly 2 months playing.
Totally agree !
arrior dmg is fine. it's the shield that ridiciuluous.
this thread is supposed to talk about class balance. ho can i understand the class balance if i dont have the chance to try every build possible. maybe there is no fix needed if every person have found the best possible build for each class.
conclusion: free respecs
I don't know if this is reported or not, but my 870armor full demonlord warr can't survive 2sec near rouge. I dont even make it to get my spell charaged to heal my self and I am allready dead. I get 2-shooted by rouges, it's insane -.- .
All you complaining about aimed shot needing a nerf have no clue. If I don't get 1-3 shots kill then I have no mana left. If aimed gets nerfed, rogues need loads more mana. I find that I spend the majority of the game running back to my flag to pick up the mana thing.
Also, warriors are incredibly op. They have pretty much everything, heals, health, damage and stuns. IMO they need a big nerf.
Nothing related to any players or drug references because they already got me into trouble
My mage built is good for PvE but not as good for PvP, so my suggestion is instead of free respecs, give us a separate built for PvP, so when we join the arena our built will automatically changed to PvP built. Like normal built, if we want to change PvP built, we need to respec.
This solution base on the fact that skills needed for PvE and PvP are too different
I have a rogue n sorc, i think yea its been rogue class master pvp for now just by 1 hit n sorc is dead, no matter what the armor of the sorc lol, its overpower i guess for rogue, warrior have a big dmg than sorc ?... lol its not balanced i guess.... sorc is the most weak here i guess
Totally agree... lot of my friends r leaving the sorc class
Funny how rogues here wont admit that theyre overpowered to avoid being nerfed. Admit it guys, we knew rogues are op even before pvp.
yuri is spot on, long before pvp loomed on the horizon we were all well aware that rogues were overpowered. they talked about it openly then because it didn't really matter that much, but it does matter now. seems the best they can do is 'but we have very little mana' which is a fair point but in no way justifies their relative killing capacity. so take your 5 kills, die and respawn with more mana, us sorcs get 1 kill in if we're lucky enough to stumble upon another weaker sorc before we have to respawn, get used to it.
warriors seem to be a *little* more open about their own ridiculously advantageous position because i don't think even many of them were expecting it. but you will notice that all warrior complaints revolve around 'i get nailed way too easy by rogues', leaving the mage very very much below both alternative classes. on top of everything else one of the primary problems for a sorc in pvp is that we are SLOW, i don't understand how a warrior and a rogue can both have fast attack/movement skills that close the distance where a magic user has nothing. yes we can briefly stun or knockback, just about long enough to run away and find a warrior for help if we're lucky.
so sorcs are upset that they get nailed by everything, warriors are upset that they get nailed by well prepared rogues and rogues are upset that they don't have the mana necessary to perpetuate as many 12 kill streaks as they'd like... there's your food chain but the rogue and warrior are definitely in a bracket of their own well above the sorcerer.
i would have much less to complain about as a mage, if it weren't for the fact that we are also useless as a support class in pvp. i specced to deal lots of damage, but thats negated entirely by the fact that despite my 273dps i cant make a dent in a warrior who two/three hit nails me and dont live long enough against a rogue who one hit kills me. so if i'm no good for dealing damage and i'm no good in a support role for either of the other classes, then what am i doing playing the game at all?
Totally agreed. most of my friends r leaving sorc class. i felt useless in pvp.
i have to say most my kills r come from rogues and still my kills is higher than my death. but sorcs r just too weak.
rogues aimed shot has longer range than fireball this the most thing annoying me. they can kill me in one shot and i dont even have a chance to let the fireball to reach them. after the charged fireball sorcs r pretty useless. if u dont kill them in the stune then u dead.
haha i never go never a warrior because i tried with my friend i cant even kill them after two charged fireballs like use lighting during the stune time when they have buufs on. course is the most useless skill in pvp. sorc will b killed before course even take effect on the enemy. haha.
i'm almost a lvl 21 rogue with fairly good gear, an i have played pvps b4, my rogue gets killed by all, ppl sayn rogues to strong.... uhmmm waiting to see that.
warriors are WAY OVER POWERED!! i've died so many times by a tanks 2 hit,
i'll give more feedback as i keep playin
PLEASE ACTUALLY BALANCE THE CLASS'S!!!!! for the sake of PVP and THE AL COMMUNITY!
A.L.
Diabolicsiinz - Rogue Lvl 21
Diabolicsiin - Warrior Lvl 13
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