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    Default My Solution to Quit Leaving & Balanced Teams

    1. Being RANDOMLY assigned to a team
    2. The game shouldn't start until both teams are equally numbered
    3. Quit leavers get additional deaths and an "x minutes" penalty from rejoining any new games
    4. Include a team chat, for ex. "/t" command
    5. Game will end within 1 minute when there is only 1 remaining player on a side

    #3. will cause problems so,
    1. D/Cers automatically rejoin if they reconnect (already implemented) (can't rejoin if a new player filled up the vacant spot)
    2. New players can fill up existing spots
    3. For every player that leaves, the team gets a 10% combat buff (no dmg reduction, no speed, no luck) and 15% stats buff (no crit, no dodge)
    so when it's 5v2, the remaining 2 players have an additional 30% dmg/def/armor and 45% increase in hp/mana

    Implement this and we'll have some real CTF games
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    Erm how to put it... NO maybe?

    I understand you are a bit annoyed at this point otherwise you wouldn't have come up with this. So I'll pretend to take it seriously

    1) no no and no. How am I gonna play with my friends? How will I decide who to go with? I quite often end up being in 1v1 parties, where we don't go for flags, just testing each other. How would I do that otherwise?
    2) This would mean a lot of waiting, but does make some sense. Already people join in quite quickly when the game starts with 3 players.
    3) This is just ridiculous....
    4) Yes, we do need a team chat
    5) No need for this, that player can decide already if he/she wants to play or not. If they do not want to do 1v5 then they can just leave, while you would force them to stay and fight.

    3. No no no. Think about how badly this could be abused? Ppl ending up with huge buffs. So if there is 1 rogue left after everyone in the team quits, will that rogue do 4-5k crit with aimed shot? No thank you...

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    Terrible suggestions. I'm pretty sure all those ideas would drive more people away than anything.
    All they need to do is balance classes/lvl and less people would leave.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Genuinous View Post
    Erm how to put it... NO maybe?

    I understand you are a bit annoyed at this point otherwise you wouldn't have come up with this. So I'll pretend to take it seriously

    1) no no and no. How am I gonna play with my friends? How will I decide who to go with? I quite often end up being in 1v1 parties, where we don't go for flags, just testing each other. How would I do that otherwise?
    2) This would mean a lot of waiting, but does make some sense. Already people join in quite quickly when the game starts with 3 players.
    3) This is just ridiculous....
    4) Yes, we do need a team chat
    5) No need for this, that player can decide already if he/she wants to play or not. If they do not want to do 1v5 then they can just leave, while you would force them to stay and fight.

    3. No no no. Think about how badly this could be abused? Ppl ending up with huge buffs. So if there is 1 rogue left after everyone in the team quits, will that rogue do 4-5k crit with aimed shot? No thank you...
    When you say friends you mean 5-0 right at the start of a new game.
    And I'd say I have a better chance at winning the lottery when its 2v5. SO WHY NOT GIVE ME MAYBE A SLIGHT CHANCE WITH SOME BUFFS.

    Use your head, I might not be entirely right but I think you and your friends are abusing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rollo View Post
    Terrible suggestions. I'm pretty sure all those ideas would drive more people away than anything.
    All they need to do is balance classes/lvl and less people would leave.
    If you even have any sort of experience with serious MMOS out there you should know that balancing a game by nerfing/buffing classes is the worst possible solution.
    The solution is balancing the game by adjusting it's rules

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    Me and my friends does mean sometimes 5 of us teaming up and it does mean 10 of us playing together. You could just get your friends or guildies or whatever and play with them. And yes you will end up in bad teams and outnumbered, but this is why leaving helps.

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    Team chat is already being existing.....

    /team [message]..

    LoL at the 3rd proposition.. What if the guy lags and gets disconnected during a fight? and don't you think it would be farmed and exploited to reach leaderboards? people will have 1billion deaths? xD

    Just make it as in PL.. if u leave during a fight -> 1 death. nothing more..
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    teaming up with friends could see as abusing/bullying other players? maybe. it depends on how you look at it.

    me and my guildmates/friends group together to play and practice teamplay. for in the near future there is a huge chance that someone will host a ctf tournament and we will participate with our team.


    and i disagree with the suggestion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chickenrunnn View Post
    Team chat is already being existing.....

    /team [message]..

    LoL at the 3rd proposition.. What if the guy lags and gets disconnected during a fight? and don't you think it would be farmed and exploited to reach leaderboards? people will have 1billion deaths? xD

    Just make it as in PL.. if u leave during a fight -> 1 death. nothing more..
    maybe play al first before you comment

    AL does NOT have a deaths LB and yes #3 is a bit too much maybe 5 deaths and not 100 but you should get my point

    edit: also d/cing shouldn't be counted towards quit leaving. the system should easily be able to determine if someone d/c'd from a game or if they left into town or to another map
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cero View Post
    teaming up with friends could see as abusing/bullying other players? maybe. it depends on how you look at it.

    me and my guildmates/friends group together to play and practice teamplay. for in the near future there is a huge chance that someone will host a ctf tournament and we will participate with our team.


    and i disagree with the suggestion.
    You can look at it both ways. To newbie players they probally might just quit pvp for good when 5 guildmates are destroying them and not even giving them a chance.

    Also why dont your friends and guildmates pratice teamplay on each other, 2v2 or 2v3 or 3v3 etc in a public match? why must you all go over to 1 side and "practice" on "randoms"
    (just noticed your sig and ur in game name...so i'm one of your victims that you and your m8s pratice on huh...idm but drop the bm if you wanna 5v1 me)

    My suggestions are 100% my opinion so I don't expect people to agree with them however I fully respect yours as well so I won't argue further
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    Quote Originally Posted by gundamsone:953924
    Quote Originally Posted by Cero View Post
    teaming up with friends could see as abusing/bullying other players? maybe. it depends on how you look at it.

    me and my guildmates/friends group together to play and practice teamplay. for in the near future there is a huge chance that someone will host a ctf tournament and we will participate with our team.


    and i disagree with the suggestion.
    You can look at it both ways. To newbie players they probally might just quit pvp for good when 5 guildmates are destroying them and not even giving them a chance.

    It's only my opinion and I fully respect yours

    thanks and i understand. i do feel like its an overkill coz most of the time after the 1st "wave" 1-3 player(s) quit and not making progress. then ending up the room as 1vs1.

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    Players who want a healthy KDR to show off contribute to 99% of this problem so theres no one to blame really

    No one likes dying and i'm one of them but i'm also the 1% who chooses to go over to the lonely side >.<

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    LOL what!!!! Are you kidding me?? All but the cheapest mmos do regular class balance, because its very hard to nail down. That said, most F2p mmos don't, simply because they can't afford too.

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    Probable solution: different mods of the game - arranged teams (teaming up), and random team games. Well-coordinated team that has huge experience playing together shouldn't be able to play against 'randoms'. A lot of games have such option, bcs randoms can't stand a chance.

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    At no specific individual.
    1. We will always sit out when mismatched.
    2. Institute brackets - 1-5, 6-10, etc.
    3. Why should a low level hang around in the current system and be slaughtered by guys 4 levels higher (or more)? Punish them for leaving a lousy situation due to poor bracketing? Really?

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    Sometimes when I sneeze I try to keep my eyes open even though its impossible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by D-: View Post
    Sometimes when I sneeze I try to keep my eyes open even though its impossible.
    This made more sense than most of the OP

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    Instead of adding deaths for quitting in the middle of battle, why not remove kills? Boy that would shakeup the leaderboards within 2 days.

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    Default My Solution to Quit Leaving &amp; Balanced Teams

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deadbite View Post
    I love new players to STS games! Makes me laugh! D
    You make me laugh if you think i'm "new" to legends games or pvp in general

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