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    Quote Originally Posted by xxsaraixx View Post
    I feel the same about pet clutter. For 1 vs 1, maybe 2 vs 2, pets add an extra dimension of play, I think as someone else stated similar to a 5th skill. But once you get in to mobs of 3-5 vs 3-5 plus their pets you can't see anything. As Energ said above its almost like you just throw yourself in and hope for the best. You can't see what skills others are using or where they are moving so it does on a base level reduce some battles to pure button mashing. Some might argue that you dont have to throw yourself into the melee, but even if attacking from a range it would be better to see what you are targeting instead of just hoping for the best. I think the suggestion to add the pet bonus but remove the pet itself from the game is a good solution to the clutter for a 5 v 5 game. Another possible solution might be to reduce the number of players allowed in games with pets. Perhaps a 2 v 2 pvp or maybe a 3 v 3 pvp player limit and you'd probably be able to see better, use some strategy and still get pet action.
    I agree. Maybe the solution is making the games 3-on-3. That would be much better.

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    not happy at all , this was deff not thought through, pvp was fine.. what they did to mage is better i guess, but rogues with pet keep hittin crits
    warriors are now the weak links

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    then you are a noob warrior cause good warriors never die in pvp, HORRAY!!!!!!!!



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    Quote Originally Posted by nelson131 View Post
    then you are a noob warrior cause good warriors never die in pvp, HORRAY!!!!!!!!



    i'm a rogue
    I clicked on over 200 warriors to see pvp stats so far, only four have more kills than deaths. ..ill be posting results later...
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    Bad thinks:
    - not evryone can have hazel, sharks; sharks kinda sux , they are for achievments mainly and cool outlook, but not having hazel is realy wrong
    - not evryone know wich pet to use; i read even here: my mage is hard too survive even with colton - then omg use malison / kettle / koko, lots hp/def, god arcane for surviving
    - not evryone got lvls 20+ of pets for now; after exp event it should balance a bit
    - big party vs big party is even more mess now :-D

    God thinks:
    - big party vs big party is even more fun now :-D
    - lvlings pets have more sense now
    - you have to think what pets to use, and to use arcane skills
    - i got high lvl of pets already :-D

    Questions:
    - does all arcane effect, and stun/knock/bleed/slov effect are same for pvp? Or is it some way reduced for pets? Cause i heard that flap jack arcane dont work too god.
    - will there be any other method of getting hazel? Cause from all god pets, only this u cant get ingame. Like let buy egg pets for platinium, and not pets. Or add it for 500 hauntled coins or add egg pet hazel to locked chest drop, or so.

    End:
    Pets dont change pvp alot, but its funny to have them, same as hqve new thinks for pvp. What realy changed pvp are other thinks that come to pvp in that patch.
    God job guys! Go even further! Thers no way back :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ishyrionek View Post
    Bad thinks:
    - not evryone can have hazel, sharks; sharks kinda sux , they are for achievments mainly and cool outlook, but not having hazel is realy wrong
    - not evryone know wich pet to use; i read even here: my mage is hard too survive even with colton - then omg use malison / kettle / koko, lots hp/def, god arcane for surviving
    - not evryone got lvls 20+ of pets for now; after exp event it should balance a bit
    - big party vs big party is even more mess now :-D

    God thinks:
    - big party vs big party is even more fun now :-D
    - lvlings pets have more sense now
    - you have to think what pets to use, and to use arcane skills
    - i got high lvl of pets already :-D

    Questions:
    - does all arcane effect, and stun/knock/bleed/slov effect are same for pvp? Or is it some way reduced for pets? Cause i heard that flap jack arcane dont work too god.
    - will there be any other method of getting hazel? Cause from all god pets, only this u cant get ingame. Like let buy egg pets for platinium, and not pets. Or add it for 500 hauntled coins or add egg pet hazel to locked chest drop, or so.

    End:
    Pets dont change pvp alot, but its funny to have them, same as hqve new thinks for pvp. What realy changed pvp are other thinks that come to pvp in that patch.
    God job guys! Go even further! Thers no way back :-)
    Colton is used to boost dmg and for the purpose of kill. As i said it still to early to commant on class balancing. Sam just need the honest feed back. This is what i felt after play.

    I dont see where lots of def and health come from malison. kettle. i tried them all. same result. mage just too weak.
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    Don't really like the new update. I've played for the past 1 hour and a half, and i still don't like it

    1. Makes huge battles utterly confusing and occasionally, laggy.

    2. Pets need to be fed, and that's annoying somewhat.

    3. Makes everything much more imbalanced, ex: Warrior with Shiloh buff has 4000+ HP.
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    This update fails
    warrior is invincible person
    never die.
    pvp is Player vs Player.

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    I've been able to kill both Rogues and Tanks slightly better now. Even if its one vs one. It all depends on the opponent and timing.


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    Fights are crazy now... Ribbits crits all over!

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    Not pleased with this update. Pets ruin the entire purpose of pvp, if you don't have he plat or coin to buy pets you're on the losing end. Pvp is about player skill not if the a good pet to boost there skill. Besides that lag in pvp has gotten worse not better, pings o through the roof randomly and I'm not the only be experiencing this. I surely hope thesis still in beta because if this is how it's going to be I will not be vping anymore. I doubt I will be he only one walking away

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paindisher View Post
    Not pleased with this update. Pets ruin the entire purpose of pvp, if you don't have he plat or coin to buy pets you're on the losing end. Pvp is about player skill not if the a good pet to boost there skill.
    Same could be said for gear. Some players cannot afford the best gear. PvP is only one aspect of the game. Pve is the other aspect. In order to have good gear for PvP, you must be successful in PvE or else do something like merching in order to save up enough gold to buy the gear you need. Same goes for pets.

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    I like the pets at this point.

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    ruins the whole balance of game.... CHANGE back plz sts... now this game is just money-wise (newbies cant afford good pets UNFAIR) and soon good pets will probably be plat bcuz then sts can gain more money because tons of people in AL love ctf (like me)... totally horrid and ruined

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    Im a tank, and consider myself a good tank and am boggled by people saying warriors are invincible..I have been crushed since update. .. this update personally was terrible...It takes skikl and strategy out the window. ..I even killed myself without a flag somehow...I stun a guy go to take advantage of it and get blasted by three pets and die...ive been killed by a pet after I killed its owner... I got killed when the person wasnt by me...he wasn't on my screen. .it was his pet...I went from having 20+ kills a match to 2-5 and those are the 1 vs 1 battles...I think out created way more problems. .I had a guy complain today cause I had shiloh with 4% incoming damage reduction call me a hacker cause he didn't do a lot of damage to me..lol it takes the fun out of pvp..its lets get all together mash buttons and see who dies. .. and ribbit is ridiculous. ..the arcane with whirlwind or with arrow from rouge is instant. Kill....its not fun... also we like 1vs1 in games ... now you can't cause your pets are auto shooting.....I say create pet room and non pet room... keep everyone happy. ..but for me...terrible..no skill, no strategy, no fun. ..
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    pet in pvp is not fun.
    no techique

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    Hi STS, maybe you can consider making two pvp arena, one with pets and one without.
    I think it's a win win idea because there are players who like it with pets, and there are players who don't.

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    i have problem with lag.

    peta are fine, people just need to learn which is better for them. You dont realy need legendary pets to kill. the goat pets works fine and the owl ones which are very cheap at auction.

    im using flapjack and can kill colton users

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    Also want to point out that players said my pet killed them after my toon died but on my screen the pet had stopped attacking. I believe my DOTs were still in effect after my toon died. Just like Vermin Swarm works on DL. Vengeful kills ftw. Lol

    EDIT 2: NvM about the pets thing. XD

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    Quote Originally Posted by xxsaraixx View Post
    I feel the same about pet clutter. For 1 vs 1, maybe 2 vs 2, pets add an extra dimension of play, I think as someone else stated similar to a 5th skill. But once you get in to mobs of 3-5 vs 3-5 plus their pets you can't see anything. As Energ said above its almost like you just throw yourself in and hope for the best. You can't see what skills others are using or where they are moving so it does on a base level reduce some battles to pure button mashing. Some might argue that you dont have to throw yourself into the melee, but even if attacking from a range it would be better to see what you are targeting instead of just hoping for the best. I think the suggestion to add the pet bonus but remove the pet itself from the game is a good solution to the clutter for a 5 v 5 game. Another possible solution might be to reduce the number of players allowed in games with pets. Perhaps a 2 v 2 pvp or maybe a 3 v 3 pvp player limit and you'd probably be able to see better, use some strategy and still get pet action.
    5 vs 5 always was kinda ridiculous, specially when 5 nobs are running 1 guy, or go to respawn spots in big groups.
    So actually is more about flag kills, than pvp ratio kills/death.
    Quote Originally Posted by warbluefish View Post
    Colton is used to boost dmg and for the purpose of kill. As i said it still to early to commant on class balancing. Sam just need the honest feed back. This is what i felt after play.

    I dont see where lots of def and health come from malison. kettle. i tried them all. same result. mage just too weak.
    I dont know what you expect, that pets will do. Make tanks from wizs? Crit and dodge machines from warriors? They give small thinks like: kettle 12% speed is cool for stun wiz with shield, who isnt front tank. Malison give 15% dodge.
    Most of warriors use hazel/ribbit/snaggletooth for str bonus. Thats show about actually wisdom of pvp players.
    Imho best warriors Pets are: rocky, esteban, shiloh.
    For other clases im not sure, and i dont really care too much.
    Quote Originally Posted by Darko View Post
    Im a tank, and consider myself a good tank and am boggled by people saying warriors are invincible..I have been crushed since update. .. this update personally was terrible...It takes skikl and strategy out the window. ..I even killed myself without a flag somehow...I stun a guy go to take advantage of it and get blasted by three pets and die...ive been killed by a pet after I killed its owner... I got killed when the person wasnt by me...he wasn't on my screen. .it was his pet...I went from having 20+ kills a match to 2-5 and those are the 1 vs 1 battles...I think out created way more problems. .I had a guy complain today cause I had shiloh with 4% incoming damage reduction call me a hacker cause he didn't do a lot of damage to me..lol it takes the fun out of pvp..its lets get all together mash buttons and see who dies. .. and ribbit is ridiculous. ..the arcane with whirlwind or with arrow from rouge is instant. Kill....its not fun... also we like 1vs1 in games ... now you can't cause your pets are auto shooting.....I say create pet room and non pet room... keep everyone happy. ..but for me...terrible..no skill, no strategy, no fun. ..
    +1. But 5 vs 5 was always kinda like that.


    And advice to "notnig see, too much thinks now" problem:
    Turn off showing names and titles in options. You always got party list on left, enemy list on right. Btw changed apperance of enemy list is great! :-)
    Last edited by ishyrionek; 02-15-2013 at 05:26 AM.

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