Class Balance in CTF PvP Feedback

[Samhayne]

On Feb. 14th we updated Arcane Legends with the following changes:

• Your pets will now fight with you in PvP combat!
• Immunity to being stunned should now always work. For example, a Rogue should no longer be able charge their basic attack and stun an opponent over and over again in PvP.

Patch Notes here: http://www.spacetimestudios.com/show...pdate-(113386)

Please use this thread to post your PvP Feedback thoughts about class balance after you have played the new version. Thanks!

[warbluefish]

rogues new weapon r so cool. more powerful than ever.

[Uofh]

+1 agreed agreed

[Arcanee]

At first I thought it sucked. I kept playing and now I think its Balanced. Rogues and Warriors can kill each other. A rogue (Cant say his name cause inapoparite) got 7 kills in a row Warriors can kill more now to. Not sure about mages yet but Warriors and Rogues are balanced

[octavos]

At first I thought it sucked. I kept playing and now I think its Balanced. Rogues and Warriors can kill each other. A rogue (Cant say his name cause inapoparite) got 7 kills in a row Warriors can kill more now to. Not sure about mages yet but Warriors and Rogues are balanced

so that means mages need more power XD

[cyrusrevange]

At first I thought it sucked. I kept playing and now I think its Balanced. Rogues and Warriors can kill each other. A rogue (Cant say his name cause inapoparite) got 7 kills in a row Warriors can kill more now to. Not sure about mages yet but Warriors and Rogues are balanced

Hi, how can it be balanced with rouge they have higher critic,DEX,Damage,DPS than warriors, is like rouge are warriors. I dont know why rouge should have all higher stats than warriors, only warriors have slightly higher HP which higher DEX of rouge can be same as higher HP, so in my point of view rouges are warrior with high critic,DEX,DAMAGE,DPS.
I still dont understand why warriors should have lower damage and DPS than rouges, rouges should only have high critic and DEX...

[zliverpoolzz]

At first I thought it sucked. I kept playing and now I think its Balanced. Rogues and Warriors can kill each other. A rogue (Cant say his name cause inapoparite) got 7 kills in a row Warriors can kill more now to. Not sure about mages yet but Warriors and Rogues are balanced

rogue with high mana n dmg maybe can beat warrior if he have good gear .. dont let rogue be manna hungry ..

[Arcanee]

so that means mages need more power XD

Well I guess so not to powerful though! Remember they supose to be something like a medic

[warbluefish]

Well I guess so not to powerful though! Remember they supose to be something like a medic

Warrior is the medic. they have the best heal skill in the game.

[Energizeric]

Well I guess so not to powerful though! Remember they supose to be something like a medic

Medic? Who needs a medic when warriors have better heal skill than we do.

[octavos]

Well I guess so not to powerful though! Remember they supose to be something like a medic

I dont play a mage to give u HP..or to be a support class in PvP..I play a mage to BBQ enemies, or make tons of rouge popsicles XD.

[puresai]

Well I guess so not to powerful though! Remember they supose to be something like a medic

Every class has heal skill, why the f do u think mage supose to be a medic?
NOONE chose a mage because they want to be a medic. I know i didnt.
it is annoying when ppl think mages only supose to be a support role.
we r sorcerer not priest..............

[Darko]

Secondly, on lb..the top ten in kills has ZERO warriors on it...all mages and rouges...on lb, all hauntlet, crypt, and tombs times are rogues and mages. .. the only imbalance is the warriors...if warriors were so unstoppable theyd be leading all boards, they are slow..dps sucks compared to mage and rouge...long range attack doesnt even come close to rouge...or mage... I anyways I n group with 3 tanks mage and rouge. ..ir 2 warriors, 2 rouges, 1 mage. ..warrior only leads in kills about 5% of time.. Rutherford and cero, my rouge and mage, destroy in kills, sometimes 30-40 in one game, while warriors get 5-15 oun average in a game. ..now yed 1 vs 1 a warrior will take down most....but that rarely happens

[puresai]

Secondly, on lb..the top ten in kills has ZERO warriors on it...all mages and rouges...on lb, all hauntlet, crypt, and tombs times are rogues and mages. .. the only imbalance is the warriors...if warriors were so unstoppable theyd be leading all boards, they are slow..dps sucks compared to mage and rouge...long range attack doesnt even come close to rouge...or mage... I anyways I n group with 3 tanks mage and rouge. ..ir 2 warriors, 2 rouges, 1 mage. ..warrior only leads in kills about 5% of time.. Rutherford and cero, my rouge and mage, destroy in kills, sometimes 30-40 in one game, while warriors get 5-15 oun average in a game. ..now yed 1 vs 1 a warrior will take down most....but that rarely happens

I am not taking about who gets the most kills......
You didnt answer any of my question

why mages cant outrun wars?
why can rouges and wars can hit a enemy though the wall but mage cant?
why rouges have longer range than mages(skill attack)? I did not say mages have no long range attack
(correct me if i am wrong)

I DID NOT say mages have low dps,
However, 1-2hit from war, mages' hp will down to 50%(with stun) due to mages' low armor and hp
so..... low dps?

I am just talking about how a mage can survive longer when 1v1 with rouges and wars.
again, any class can kill other class with 1-2hit, its imbalance to me.

BTW
if u do own a rouge or mage and think they r so awesome at killing, why bother play as war?

[Sundar Moorthi]

I am not taking about who gets the most kills......
You didnt answer any of my question

why mages cant outrun wars?
why can rouges and wars can hit a enemy though the wall but mage cant?
why rouges have longer range than mages(skill attack)? I did not say mages have no long range attack
(correct me if i am wrong)

I DID NOT say mages have low dps,
However, 1-2hit from war, mages' hp will down to 50%(with stun) due to mages' low armor and hp
so..... low dps?

I am just talking about how a mage can survive longer when 1v1 with rouges and wars.
again, any class can kill other class with 1-2hit, its imbalance to me.

BTW
if u do own a rouge or mage and think they r so awesome at killing, why bother play as war?

U point out mage is week?

in any lvl mage is massive damager (do u blv this 3mage with 2 tankz, in clash 3tankz 2 rogues die like a paper) lightning instead of curse mage staff's do a gud damage, just curse the rogue and tel the tank to attack him just c the dmg tht time tank do a dmg like rogue,. wat i mean its mage its a gud damager but not a damage dealer, (using 3 attacking skills with no heal mage can kill 2 rogues before the mage's shield down) without heal in vs mage dominate in all class, just call vs any rogue no heal with mage thy wont come, am using mage my first toon :-) i like the blue guy, i luv to play al as a mage ( mage,rogues r gud kill stealers, u can find out more warmongers r mage and rogue's only

[warbluefish]

Secondly, on lb..the top ten in kills has ZERO warriors on it...all mages and rouges...on lb, all hauntlet, crypt, and tombs times are rogues and mages. .. the only imbalance is the warriors...if warriors were so unstoppable theyd be leading all boards, they are slow..dps sucks compared to mage and rouge...long range attack doesnt even come close to rouge...or mage... I anyways I n group with 3 tanks mage and rouge. ..ir 2 warriors, 2 rouges, 1 mage. ..warrior only leads in kills about 5% of time.. Rutherford and cero, my rouge and mage, destroy in kills, sometimes 30-40 in one game, while warriors get 5-15 oun average in a game. ..now yed 1 vs 1 a warrior will take down most....but that rarely happens

Its pvp we r talking about. and also class balancing. not the kill counts. why dont u talk about flag catching? who r the top 10 of that?

[Arcanee]

Well I wouldnt know I only use one character lol. Mages are under powerd I agree with that though

[puresai]

correct me if I am wrong

there are a few things I just dont get it.

Wars and Rouges have longer skill attack range than mage? shouldn't mage deserve the longest attack range or at least the same?
Mage cant outrun Wars, no metter what, they always catch me (tried run with time shift+Fireball+normal charged attack or forst+Firebell+normal charged attack)
Wars and Rouges can hit me through the wall? It happened so many time when I was only at corner.
I have seen 1 war vs 2mages or 1 rouges vs 2mages at the same time and yet mages lost but I have never seen a mage survive in the same situation.
Maybe War and Rouges are not OP just Mages are too weak...........
If one class can kill the other class with 1-2 hit, then its not balance.

I am not the best player nor have the best gear.
just want to have a fair game

[Aslanx]

correct me if I am wrong

there are a few things I just dont get it.

Wars and Rouges have longer skill attack range than mage? shouldn't mage deserve the longest attack range or at least the same?
Mage cant outrun Wars, no metter what, they always catch me (tried run with time shift+Fireball+normal charged attack or forst+Firebell+normal charged attack)
Wars and Rouges can hit me through the wall? It happened so many time when I was only at corner.
I have seen 1 war vs 2mages or 1 rouges vs 2mages at the same time and yet mages lost but I have never seen a mage survive in the same situation.
Maybe War and Rouges are not OP just Mages are too weak...........
If one class can kill the other class with 1-2 hit, then its not balance.

I am not the best player nor have the best gear.
just want to have a fair game

I dont see gale force in ur running strategy.... do (charged) fire then (charged) gale, lightning to discourage pursuit and asap do arcane shield (charged if rogue)

[Heiki]

I agree that, if you introduce stun immunities, overhaul mages as you designed them around crowd control...

All it took was to delete perma stun from normal attacks really. Taking away interrupts for a whole 8 seconds (which is like 2 times more time than an average battle takes) is a bit crippling in terms of gameplay.

I'm very happy my warrior can actually do stuff in group fights now though. But yea, do something about mages; overhauling the protection shield provides could be a start.