fail! fail! fail!

[Snakespeare]

(The thread title comes from the only Dr Who episode written by Douglas Adams, Pirate Planet.)

Man, what is it with PUGs in Arcane? These are some mighty failed groups. Lately I have not been able to complete a map because they can't cooperate enough to beat the boss.

Today while in the last map of Dead City, it was me and another rogue trying to beat the boss because everyone else left. I got it halfway down by myself, practically, and the other rogue, after dying, comes back trailed by two more pink demons. What?! I had already pat revved once, and used about 50 health pots and as many mana pots, but three one-shot bosses at once? gimme a break. of course they killed us and reset. What a waste of pots and plat!

And this sort of thing has been going on... for instance, someone gets agro and runs away, resetting a boss when everyone else has been using their pots and doing plat revs.

Anyway, it reminds me of sewers. This problem was ended in PL by making special zones for levelling. But AL is almost entirely PUGs, where your success depends on randomly getting people to play with who don't reset the boss. Yeah, I know, if you have a guild and you have friends, you can get past this. If you're not a guildee kind of guy, well, get used to it, I guess.

[Greencrow]

what is PUGS ? thanks

[Mezmeractus]

Puny
Ugly
Goat
Slappers

[jerzy448]

Yea it sucks. Just started back playing today and havent completed a map yet. Havent capped and dont think i will. Im going to let this game ride off into the sunset.

[Mezmeractus]

I actually don't know what PUGs is but my best guess based on his post is people under geared

[Rare]

Snake... what you are trying to say is "BOOOO this party system"

Check this out. Help us out man!

[Genuinous]

PuG's are quite awful in elite maps, but you can meet many great players through them at the same time. This is even truer if you try to lvl in wt4 with randoms. Nonetheless it is expected that a PuG will be a lot slower than a well organized group of strong players, no surprises there

[KillaSkillz]

To answer the question here. PUGs = Pick Up Games
It's a random join game instead of creating a party, and in elite it really isn't possible to do it in this game. You are destined for failure and disappointment in a pug in elite.

[Rare]

Man... I just ran a PUG. Me, another Rogue, and a warrior. It was in Harbor. We were in the last area before the boss and mini boss. We go wiped (first time after ~7 minutes). So the warrior left.

[JaytB]

I agree 100% with the OP. PUG's are generally a horrible experience. There are very few people who stick around till the end, most are undergeared and have no clue what they're doing. Even in non-elite maps in lots of the groups people leave half way through. It can definitely be a crappy experience.

PUG's are the only reason why I'm starting to consider joining a guild with people who know what they are doing.

[Greencrow]

The best way to avoi pugs is to join a guild )

[Rare]

The best way to avoi pugs is to join a guild )

Where is the fun in avoiding PUGs??? This game wouldn't be half of what it is without them IMO. Better idea is to fix PUGs so they can be enjoyed by the masses like in PL and SL.

[FluffNStuff]

Send a party invite at the beginning when you have a full 'team'. Useless, perhaps, but I found when someone does this the pug does better. Could be some psycho babble about feeling part of a team so acting more like you are part of that team, but when partied, players seem less likely to quit, less likely to go AFK and more likely stick through a tough boss. Basing this on solely on my limited experience, so take it as you will, but it always surprises me how differently players behave.

[Mezmeractus]

I think if we give everyone the same armor and the same enemies to kill there won't be a problem. JOSEPH STALIN FOREVER! GO COMMUNISM!

[TheBedtBird]

What I usually do is check peoples stats and if I see they are reallyWhat I usually do is check peoples stats and if I see they are super low I leave. I like to usually get runs done fast and you cant do that with people that have super low stats. Plus it lowers the possibilty of a player ressetting the boss by 97%

[Rare]

What I usually do is check peoples stats and if I see they are reallyWhat I usually do is check peoples stats and if I see they are super low I leave. I like to usually get runs done fast and you cant do that with people that have super low stats. Plus it lowers the possibilty of a player ressetting the boss by 97%

97% huh? lol

[Raxin]

Join a better guild my friends :-P
The only pug i play is:
P owerering
U p
G uildies

Or

P roducing
U ber
G old

Check guild section tons of amazing are available.
I.e.
Raxin: 1/4 sea dps please
Mem1: me
Mem2: inv me
Mem3: ill go
Situation nuetralized

Same with ap clears and rec runs
Gl guys

[Pandamoni]

Snake, I'm not often on when you're on the bus but add me in game and I'd be happy to help you when you get stuck in the sucky runs. We need to bug the devs to change the party system to allow 1 or 2 friends to run together and still allow others to join so you can get a full run with just a few friends rather than either doing a half empty run with friends or straight pugging/trying to get into a run with a few friends. It's clunky, to say the least.

[GoodSyntax]

I actually like PUGs in some cases.

There are many times when I just want to do a casual run in the early Kraken Isles maps (Windmoore Harbor, Southern Seas) and I honestly don't care whether I solo or have others run with me.

The only time I get ansy about the group is when I am running a tough elite map, or a tough normal map (like Skull Cove). When in doubt, I either party up with friends or with my guildies.

If I am on a map that I can solo, then I don't care whether the group is good or not. It gives me a chance to help others and I have run into many good players (some whom I now call Friend) in PUGs. If folks bail out at the boss, fine with me, I was prepared to solo it anyway, if they stick around, then that's fine too. The only issue I have is when some nooby Warrior gets aggro, runs away and resets the boss. When I see that happening, I try to spam Aimed, Nox and Piercer to get aggro back.

If you ever need help, just send me a party invite (IGN: Kalizza). Unless I'm in the middle of a PvP match, or on an elite map, I'll drop out and join you.

[Rare]

Same with ap clears and rec runs
Gl guys

Or just change up the system. I vote this option

My motto... More fun less work