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    Hi everyone,

    Now that the Battle for Nord has been out for a little under a day, I wanted to remind that the new content is going to feel pretty hard. We see this at every expansion. People rush to the end cap and then become frustrated that farming elites (or playing normal levels for that matter) isn't very easy.

    People need to gear up.

    People need to get to know how the zones play and the Boss strategies.

    So yes, it will not be on farm mode yet. Please give it some time, thanks!
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    That was helpful Thanks.

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    thank you! working on it.
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    Actually, I'm still level 28 and still didn't reach those places. I'm only in Stronghold town but didn't continue those next places. Why? Because I know I'll be killed easily bcoz of my level 26 gears and stats I need to level 31 first before entering those dungeons. Think first. ^_^
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greencrow View Post
    Actually, I'm still level 28 and still didn't reach those places. I'm only in Stronghold town but didn't continue those next places. Why? Because I know I'll be killed easily bcoz of my level 26 gears and stats I need to level 31 first before entering those dungeons. Think first. ^_^
    I didn't have any problems with l26 gear. Sure I died a couple times at the boss. But you need to figure out how to kill them. It's not just brute force button mashing.

    I am not looking forward to killing them in elite though.

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    Normal mode felt like my best gears at 26 were junk. Leveled a bit and bought some better gear and still got roughed up and used many potions. I think I'll just level cap and casually play them! Not looking forward to getting swarmed by snaggletooths in elite.

    I really miss the level 21 days of rushing rooks nest elite and taking down the boss in seconds
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    Lmao there is snaggletooths? I guess you are right since there were Wrathjaws.

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    Can't say I agree, when KI came out I walked (solo) through normal mode (at lvl 21, with lvl 21 gear). Now I'm lvl 31, with some 31 gear (just crate stuff) and getting my arse handed to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samhayne View Post
    (or playing normal levels for that matter) isn't very easy.

    People need to gear up.

    People need to get to know how the zones play and the Boss strategies.
    Ah, I see...you just need to be cap with the new elite gears to do the NORMAL modes now!

    Doesn't that sound just a tad bit idiotic? Informing individuals that they should lvl up- in order to play the content that does the lvl'ing...is odd to say the least.

    It's not ELITES- these are the NORMAL maps 1 shotting from 10 meters beyond the red markers etc....

    Why expect us to have the lvl 31 elite boss gear in order to lvl 27-30?

    Tombs, tombs, tombs...then hauntlet to cap every expansion. Waiting 40min to find a couple peeps to join expansion maps 5 days after release is going to be the norm from now on. Check your metrics and notice a trend...why add content that you want peeps to avoid?
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    Proo haha i casually level to 30 in wt4 im getting my butt handed to me in those mobs as a lvl 22 almost 23 lmao. Rediculous! I want to somehow save up to get a mythic set for warrior and that dope hammer. Or buy the bundle for $20 again aha

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    I'll save judgement until I can get better gear at 30. I remember having to get to 25 before I could finish normal Cove without using an absurd amount of potions.

    Yesterday I learned how to watch for Alpha Wolf's reflect and kill Frostir's ice/heal patches with Time Shift. Things got a little better after that. I think once the general playerbase learns the patterns, these bosses will be easy enough. At least on normal mode anyway haha.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yakiniku View Post
    I'll save judgement until I can get better gear at 30. I remember having to get to 25 before I could finish normal Cove without using an absurd amount of potions.

    Yesterday I learned how to watch for Alpha Wolf's reflect and kill Frostir's ice/heal patches with Time Shift. Things got a little better after that. I think once the general playerbase learns the patterns, these bosses will be easy enough. At least on normal mode anyway haha.
    The bosses aren't THAT hard. Maybe a little rough for normal mode. The big problem is their red cone . It's bugged. Standing completely outside of the cones and I still get one shotted

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samhayne View Post
    Hi everyone,

    Now that the Battle for Nord has been out for a little under a day, I wanted to remind that the new content is going to feel pretty hard. We see this at every expansion. People rush to the end cap and then become frustrated that farming elites (or playing normal levels for that matter) isn't very easy.

    People need to gear up.

    People need to get to know how the zones play and the Boss strategies.

    So yes, it will not be on farm mode yet. Please give it some time, thanks!
    On normal mode, every boss is harder than any elite boss I've come up against. And grimnr, well that boss takes a lot longer than 30 minutes just after you get to his last head. His health drops 1% every 10 minutes and then goes back up 2% after it drops. So either it's bugged or you've made it impossible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yakiniku View Post
    Yesterday I learned how to watch for Alpha Wolf's reflect and kill Frostir's ice/heal patches with Time Shift.
    I had fun learning about the reflecting shield I was getting wooped beucase it came up while clock with DoT was on.. now that was fun!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aedenos View Post
    The bosses aren't THAT hard. Maybe a little rough for normal mode. The big problem is their red cone . It's bugged. Standing completely outside of the cones and I still get one shotted
    You probably have good players around you. Plus, I remember you from KoI. You're a good player yourself.

    I run with randoms a lot. Very few think about strategy in randoms lol. Most want faceroll and win, while wearing terrible gear I might add. But randoms are still fun because you meet cool people. So I continue to do it. No big deal to me honestly.

    +1 on the bugged red zones. I was getting one shotted while standing clearly out if Frostir's aoe freeze skill range.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vesan View Post
    On normal mode, every boss is harder than any elite boss I've come up against. And grimnr, well that boss takes a lot longer than 30 minutes just after you get to his last head. His health drops 1% every 10 minutes and then goes back up 2% after it drops. So either it's bugged or you've made it impossible.
    Me and another 2 friends beat him, 1 hour or so, maybe less or more

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aedenos View Post
    The bosses aren't THAT hard. Maybe a little rough for normal mode. The big problem is their red cone . It's bugged. Standing completely outside of the cones and I still get one shotted
    That is my concern as well...at 53 ping I didn't expect to be hit so far outside of a red that I never was in range of at any point of the fight. Something is amiss with the cone not displaying the correct area or attack radius.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yakiniku View Post
    You probably have good players around you. Plus, I remember you from KoI. You're a good player yourself.

    I run with randoms a lot. Very few think about strategy in randoms lol. Most want faceroll and win, while wearing terrible gear I might add. But randoms are still fun because you meet cool people. So I continue to do it. No big deal to me honestly.

    +1 on the bugged red zones. I was getting one shotted while standing clearly out if Frostir's aoe freeze skill range.
    Oh... With pugs it would be near impossible. Even hauntlet is unbearable with pugs. Barely bearable with a good party.

    Speaking of hauntlet, I know Sam mentioned before it was the same last season. It wasn't. I leveled both my warrior and sorcerer solely in hauntlet. Only in the very worst pug did it ever take over a minute to get through the first zone. On average, it took about 1:30 to clear the first two zones. And I'm talking level 21-25 with l21 gear.

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    Hauntlet is pretty ridiculous now. Last time I was there, a well balanced and well geared group of 26s finished in barely under 3:30. For a minute there, I thought we weren't going to get the token.

    Ah well. Back to WT4. I'm a product of the older MMO generation, so I don't really mind the difficulty too much honestly.
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    They added new content they actuly want people to play. Their goal is not to have people cap and farming within hours of release...

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