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    Nice post!

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    Wow thanks so much everyone!
    I wil post links to the other games later today as well.

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    Excellent post, thank you!

    I always wondered what the release timeframes were before I came along in AO3 (but didnt want to dig thru Announcements :P)

    The concept of AO 1/2/3 (plus Shadow Caves) was very strong and provided for countless hours of entertaining replay value. I would love to see a similar 1/2/3 release at endgame again, even if the maps are samey... as long as the concept is awesome and the gameplay feels rewarding
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    Quote Originally Posted by Disko View Post
    Excellent post, thank you!

    I always wondered what the release timeframes were before I came along in AO3 (but didnt want to dig thru Announcements :P)

    The concept of AO 1/2/3 (plus Shadow Caves) was very strong and provided for countless hours of entertaining replay value. I would love to see a similar 1/2/3 release at endgame again, even if the maps are samey... as long as the concept is awesome and the gameplay feels rewarding
    Unforturnately, I doubt that will happen anytime soon.

    With the rise of Elixirs and the recent 4 Days Challenge for this expansion, gameplay quickly becomes old after playing for merely an hour. Add to the mix a bunch of players that boots before boss, leechs in rooms, talks trash, or a mix of the 3, and you can be sure you have a chace to feel disappointed at the end of the day in overall experience in any further expansions.

    Do note that I am not attacking STS in any way, just some disappointment regarding the current quality of players at the moment.

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    Edited my post :
    Make sure to check the other ones, too :

    Dark Legends : http://www.spacetimestudios.com/show...Expansion-Caps

    Star Legends : http://www.spacetimestudios.com/show...Expansion-Caps

    Arcane Legends : http://www.spacetimestudios.com/show...Expansion-Caps

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    T'y 4 infos Doc . Mayb i ask to much but would b that great if we got lil comment fr Sts on tis thread ?
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    I just wanted to add on one more teeny thing.

    If players look at the other 3 threads he has made for AL, DL, & SL, they can see that during the incubation period of each game, the expansion caps were short. They were around 2-3 expansions each with 1 to 2 month intervals.

    Thus, as you can see. AL is getting the same treatment that PL got during it's incubation period. SL got the same special treatment during it's incubation period as well. DL did as well, albiet its new caps were a little bit longer between raises and it had 1-2 less cap raises for it's incubation period compared to the rest of the game.

    This, I blame on two things:

    First off, DL was using STS's upgraded engine, which I'm sure took the developers a little more time to get used to & code, as it had to be more complicated. Again, this is just a hypothesis, so feel free to disagree with me.

    Secondly, AL came out pretty quickly after DL. People were very surprised as to how short of a period AL came after DL. This, and AL's popular take off caused DL to get the short end of the stick in terms of campaign increases and the frequency of campaign increases.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Apollo View Post
    I just wanted to add on one more teeny thing.

    If players look at the other 3 threads he has made for AL, DL, & SL, they can see that during the incubation period of each game, the expansion caps were short. They were around 2-3 expansions each with 1 to 2 month intervals.

    Thus, as you can see. AL is getting the same treatment that PL got during it's incubation period. SL got the same special treatment during it's incubation period as well. DL did as well, albiet its new caps were a little bit longer between raises and it had 1-2 less cap raises for it's incubation period compared to the rest of the game.

    This, I blame on two things:

    First off, DL was using STS's upgraded engine, which I'm sure took the developers a little more time to get used to & code, as it had to be more complicated. Again, this is just a hypothesis, so feel free to disagree with me.

    Secondly, AL came out pretty quickly after DL. People were very surprised as to how short of a period AL came after DL. This, and AL's popular take off caused DL to get the short end of the stick in terms of campaign increases and the frequency of campaign increases.
    Exactly. I'm getting tired of all the "STS only cares about AL these days" posts. Maybe these 4 threads will calm some of that down.

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    This is very intersting data, and a good way to put things into perspective. Thanks to Doc for doing the research (so we don't have to). A few thoughts that struck me.

    1. There is undeniably a difference between the attention a new game gets vs. a well-established one like PL. Several have pointed this out already. We do need to manage our expectations about how often we'll see new content added to this very mature game and not get too caught up in comparing with AL's level of attention. The two games are not comparable in terms of their maturity level.

    2. Having said that, we are certainly going to break new ground in PL as far as length of time between content updates. Why do I say that? Well, the data shows we're about a month away from the historical maximum time between caps, and we haven't heard a thing from STS about the next update. If you look at the history, especially the history of the last year or so of PL, STS tends to announce updates to PL many weeks before they happen. In general, we get our first hint 4-6 weeks before it's actually put into the game, with some other teaser posts leading up to the release. Since we haven't heard anything at all, I don't see any chance that a content update will happen in the next month. Therefore, I feel safe predicting that the time between updates for whatever PL eventually gets will end up being longer than the longest wait to date.

    At this point, I sincerely hope STS plans on giving us some kind of official update of their plans for PL in the next month. If May comes and goes and they're still silent, we'll have passed the longest wait in PL history without a peep. That would be when I would seriously start wondering if PL has been completely abandoned. Actually, people thinking that now wouldn't be completely unjustified in my view. I'm not trying to be alarmist, and I tend to think it's not that case that PL is over, but every day of complete silence from STS makes it that much harder to have faith that patience will be rewarded.

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    oh yeah...can u put the elite cap on certain expansion like Balefort Sewer Elite Cap received CoP(Crown Of Persistence) so new player know what they got in elite cap and the first map on elite cap... also you can put a P.S so they know that vanity item cap in past expansion cannot be obtain in the future...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ks_Leon View Post
    oh yeah...can u put the elite cap on certain expansion like Balefort Sewer Elite Cap received CoP(Crown Of Persistence) so new player know what they got in elite cap and the first map on elite cap... also you can put a P.S so they know that vanity item cap in past expansion cannot be obtain in the future...
    Sure , added that to my thread.

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    Shall i update this ? Maybe weekly ?

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    last 2 months there has been a cap for Al,Dl and Sl.
    My guess is that Pocket Legends gets the next cap within may.
    Just a rough estimate he..

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    pretty soon a new legends title will be out and all of us on AL will be complaining. haha.

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    I personally would like to see PL rebalanced before a new campaign. I would then like to enjoy the balance of the game for a little bit before the new campaign comes out and screws it up again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wvhills View Post
    pretty soon a new legends title will be out and all of us on AL will be complaining. haha.
    And the pattern continues

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    Another awesome post. Good job bro!

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    Quote Originally Posted by wvhills View Post
    pretty soon a new legends title will be out and all of us on AL will be complaining. haha.
    Hopefully (at least) there should be an oyster class then.

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