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    Quote Originally Posted by Wendellism View Post
    And the stacking in itself makes Bears unique, after all, has any of you seen any other class which buffs could stack?
    not self stacking, but rhino party buffs stack with other rhinos' allowing for massive damage buffs

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    Quote Originally Posted by tHelonestud View Post
    not self stacking, but rhino party buffs stack with other rhinos' allowing for massive damage buffs
    You sir, are definitely one of Elyseon's fanboiz.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wendellism:1080407
    Quote Originally Posted by tHelonestud View Post
    not self stacking, but rhino party buffs stack with other rhinos' allowing for massive damage buffs
    You sir, are definitely one of Elyseon's fanboiz.
    Im one too!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shadowstar View Post
    Im one too!
    Bet you don't know who Elyseon is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wendellism View Post
    You sir, are definitely one of Elyseon's fanboiz.
    Maybe he was one of my fanboys

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wendellism:1080407
    Quote Originally Posted by tHelonestud View Post
    not self stacking, but rhino party buffs stack with other rhinos' allowing for massive damage buffs
    You sir, are definitely one of Elyseon's fanboiz.
    Why would anyone be elyseon's fanboy? Nevermind tHelonestud himself.
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    Elyseon is so generous!

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    I remember a time, where 2 bears were needed to get a succesful shadow cave run... this much as a prolog.

    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonTider View Post
    The problem with taunt, even in a maxed state, is the amount of damage bears deal. With the insane amount of damage mages and birds do, taunt only works long enough for for a bird/mage to get a hit and aggro is focused back on them. The best chance a bear has is to use either a two-handed sword/weapon or a bow which drastically decreases the tanking abilities. Some of us can handle the pot spamming, but not many can.

    I agree that bears are truly a dying breed. However, it has been this way since elixirs hit it big back at the end of Sewers, beginning of Nuri's.
    I agree with the point of potsmamming. It can be very exhausting. I experience it quite a few times lately when tanking with dex gear the dragon campaign. It is nothing you will learn overnight, you must practise it to switch between skills and pots quickly or throw in 1 or more pots between your skill sequence.

    Quote Originally Posted by outcastranger View Post
    So am I correct in saying that the bear is the worst class? I mean the paladin like never dies, the mage has good skills overall, the archer does tons of DPS, and the ranger has tremendous DPS with skills that could probably challenge the archers. The bear just has health, rage, iron-blood, and beckon/stomp combo. However, I do believe that all classes are needed to make the game. We can't have a pocket legends of just archers or just paladins, I still think that the bear is some-what needed. Just not as much now that the paladin(a health tank) has come out.
    Call me old school but for me I just cant imagine a farming session without a single bear in my party.

    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonTider View Post
    Actually, those of us who know how to play the class properly would argue, bears, are the best class.
    Totally agree with this.

    Quote Originally Posted by CrimsonTider View Post
    It is not just about "rage" and the other skills. "Smash" (beckon+stomp) may be the most powerful/useful skill in game when used appropriately. Beckon is the only skill in game with the capability to quickly effectively group a large mass of mobs, place them in a particular spot on the map, stun, and cause damage all at once. When combined with Stomp and a mage's Ice Storm, it's game over. Stank and I have cleared thousands upon thousands of maps with just these three "damage" skills.

    One must have an understanding of all classes to truly understand the benefit of one.
    The biggest advantage of the bear class is the massive crowd controll skill effects along with the huge mass debuff. Pull, Hellscream, Stomp, Taunt. That are most efficient skills. Combine them with a mage and bird and you can easily farm any dungeon.

    Quote Originally Posted by Troncaat View Post
    If you decide to spam skills, then sure, bears do suck.
    But as a bear you should think about control. Which is my absolute favorite thing about bears. You control where you want your enemies to go. Think strategically.
    If it wasn't for beckon, half of the skills used by other classes would be way worse. You group beckon to the wall, run around, stomp, and everyone else can use their skills to where it'll hit all of the enemies rather than some if they were scattered around.

    On the rage subject... I have no idea what you're talking about. Bosses always attack me.

    Bears are awesome. They can survive, deal alot of damage, and have control.
    Totally agree with that.

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    Wow. Great explanation

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    Wow Outcastranger, you are very controversial in not just the ranger discussion but also in the bear descussion!!! I appreciate the fact that new players are voicing their opinion. Now on to my point.

    The bear is the hardest class but pays off if you really know what your doing. If you are a good bear who tanks and aggros the boss, you will be friended by 90% of who you play with. Simply because, who doesnt want a good bear in the party?

    Peanut xD

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    Quote Originally Posted by outcastranger View Post
    I meant rage. it does no damage without rage.
    So... archers need focus and mages need bov as well...

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    Srry to say but I simply don't trust random parties I have used taunt multiple times and my team doesn't back me up I took down 5 trolls at low level and a boss all at the same time and my "team" just stood around

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    Quote Originally Posted by Masteraerykh View Post
    Srry to say but I simply don't trust random parties I have used taunt multiple times and my team doesn't back me up I took down 5 trolls at low level and a boss all at the same time and my "team" just stood around
    Then you need to find a reliable party and play with them. Guilds are always a good option.
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    Bear is made to Tank; PVE,PVP and CTF ...Bear not tanking i think, they dont want to have many deaths...

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    i 100% agree with you except that bear is definitely the best class. Its consistant DPS and crowd control abilities allow it to dominate PvE as well as PvP

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