Fox or Bear?

[PeteZero]

I have been playing for a while on PL now, a bird and an enchantress, now I want one for close combat, so either a Dex bear or a fox. What are the main differences? Please help me decide!
And thank you!

[Xvanitykingx]

Get a "FOX", it learns awesome skills that are good for taking on the crowds, plus using daggers and dual wields actually make sense for this guy! I totally recomend this as your next character. You will love it!

[tHelonestud]

Bears are much better. More damage, more aoe skills, and they start with a bigger health pool. Using no elixirs, it would be hard to be a dexterity fox, but a bear is fine. Also there are many more guides to playing a bear on the forums.

[Xvanitykingx]

Bears are much better. More damage, more aoe skills, and they start with a bigger health pool. Using no elixirs, it would be hard to be a dexterity fox, but a bear is fine. Also there are many more guides to playing a bear on the forums.

Yes, there are more guides on how to be an awesome bear but, not many fox guides, IMO i think the fox is pretty good.
I'm saying this because I already have an awesome bear so I started a fox which is now lvl 25.

[Prototypedwar]

youll die alot more if you pick fox, still a very nice class though.

[Xvanitykingx]

youll die alot more if you pick fox, still a very nice class though.

I don't have many deaths on my fox, i made it to lvl 25, only 3 deaths!

[Prototypedwar]

I don't have many deaths on my fox, i made it to lvl 25, only 3 deaths!

yes, but afterwards you will be facing tougher bosses and enemies .. especially in alien oasis part 3 and sewers.

[Caiahar]

I don't have many deaths on my fox, i made it to lvl 25, only 3 deaths!

yes, but afterwards you will be facing tougher bosses and enemies .. especially in alien oasis part 3 and sewers.

Yup, if you dont have a high lvl with u, you will get pwned by Galactic Overlord and Sewer king/queen.
I myself had trouble until high lvls came and helped.

[Prototypedwar]

Yup, if you dont have a high lvl with u, you will get pwned by Galactic Overlord and Sewer king/queen.
I myself had trouble until high lvls came and helped.

what lvl is your fox? and how many k/d do you have?

[Deathofan]

Don't foxes run out of mana too much from levels 1-49? And they also seem to die too much, I would suggest Pete to finish the three main classes first and finishing leveling the bear, and then consider choosing either one of the new classes and even then, I think rhino is a far better choice to have at high levels (+56) than the fox.

[Caiahar]

Yup, if you dont have a high lvl with u, you will get pwned by Galactic Overlord and Sewer king/queen.
I myself had trouble until high lvls came and helped.

what lvl is your fox? and how many k/d do you have?

Not saying I have one over 50, but it was troubling even with my main (a bird) when I was at those levels. Plus, my bear has trouble too.
So if even a tank has trouble, a fox would too

[tHelonestud]

maybe by the time you get a bear good, fox and rhinos will have been rebalanced so that they are more competitive.

[Prototypedwar]

i dont know if it was coincidence that sts added a fox class shortly ofter AL was released. the fox has alot in common with the rogue class in AL ..

on topic: daggers have never been very popular before the fox was released (i think, not entirely sure though). so, if you do like daggers, pick fox.
the fox is also (compared to rhino) easy to spec, and if you dont like daggers, you can just use bows/crossbows/talons etc. instead.

[Caiahar]

i dont know if it was coincidence that sts added a fox class shortly ofter AL was released. the fox has alot in common with the rogue class in AL ..

on topic: daggers have never been very popular before the fox was released (i think, not entirely sure though). so, if you do like daggers, pick fox.
the fox is also (compared to rhino) easy to spec, and if you dont like daggers, you can just use bows/crossbows/talons etc. instead.

Yeah it does....and even tho the fox is a meelee playet, samhayne said if you add INT to it, yhe poison needles/dart will scale. But I myself would spec into a close ranger.

[Prototypedwar]

i only made a fox because i want to use the elite phoenix bow and didnt want to go full dex on my warrior:P. after reaching l50, leveling just got tedious without combo, and sewers is not the most friendly place for a lvl50.

[Battlegrinder]

Since you already have a bird, I'd suggest picking fox. That way you can swap DEX equipment back and forth between the two characters, instead of having to by a lot of STR stuff that only your bear can use. Before someone comments, I know that bears should use some DEX equipment, but you'll still want STR armor, shields, and helmets sometimes. With a fox and a bird, all the equipment one character uses will also work for the other. I have a bear, a paladin, and STR Mage/Pally/whatever-we-call-them these days, and It's working out great (though running back and forth to Balefort to swap gear around is a huge pain).

[Suentous PO]

Another vote for bear. He's easier, tougher, and gives you a more full understanding of basic party mechanics.
Fox is more difficult with some skills being mele and some range. Needles can be tricky to master because they do not auto target, it will fly where your facing which isn't allways what your targeting.
You said mele, so classic is best. /2 cents

[xcainnblecterx]

Pure dex bear ftw

[ArtofWar]

Bear

[PeteZero]

Thanks for all the input, will go for bear then.