Stop the insanity

[Teuzha]

Does anyone else realize how badly we are screwing ourselves. I just saw an auction for warrior mythic armor priced at 20,000,000. Now I realize I will never be able to obtain this item and have excepted this. However lets do some simple math, 500 plat will get you 500,000 gold. 500,000 goes into 20,000,000 40 times. 500x40 is 20,000 plat. This weekend 1700 plat is going for $54.99, 20,000/1700 equals about 12. $54.99x12=$659.88. Does anyone else see the absurdity in this? You can buy an Xbox with multiple games for this, a brand new iPad or laptop, hell a used car. Why on earth are we charging each other $700 for a piece of armor in a game, which really is a bunch of pixels, 0's and 1's people. Things in auction should be much cheaper, hundreds and thousands, not millions. This only screws are selves and makes STS richer. Stop the insanity, cut the prices.

[gundamsone]

yea but what about the people that own all those and some more?

this game doesn't require you to have mythics or even elite pinks to play and have fun.
if you find yourself depressed over these expensive gears then I think it's time for you to either take a break or study hard and get a job b/c "659.88" is nothing compared to how long it takes to earn 20m gold from farming/merching

[Teuzha]

Not my point. I am casual player with a family, a steady job and a life. I can't and wont spend my whole damn day farming. Or rationalize to my wife why I couldn't pay the mortgage because I blew half of it on a video game.

[gundamsone]

I agree, but b/c of these players the game is able to run nice and smooth and we get frequent updates.

[chitgoks]

if you havent bought these things, good. at least you're not tempted.

for those who do buy those things at those kind of prices, that's their problem, right? we cant fault them. some of them are probably rich in real life

[Jcyee]

It's not really insane. The items are super rare and people get themselves caught up in the game to the point that they're spending hundreds (maybe even thousands) of dollars to get top notch gear. For some people, this game is pretty important; for others not so much.

If you were to loot a mythic or arcane item after spending hundreds of dollars to get it, would you only sell it for anything less than 1,000,000? People want a nice return from all the money they spent in the form of AL gold.

However, like gundamsone said, the game is easily playable without opening hundreds of thousands of locked crates. You don't need the very best gear to be successful in this game.

[Bullox]

In my Opinion the character of a MMO is to lvl your char and try to get the best Gear for it.
Because of the super low Droprates and all the Mythic/Arcane Stuff, STS create a 1% Game or nearly pay to win.

1% of all players or less have enough money/gold to pay such ridicolous prices for these items, but what's with the Rest of the players?

Lets take the Mythic Gun for Sorcs...46,2 dmg + to the best Sorc legendary Staff ingame (over 50dmg+ to the best gun)...lol..... i don't wanna meet someone with this Gun in PvP...

All free MMOs and there were good ones, which use pay to win, are dead or gonna die...

I'm a Plat buyer too ( about 4,2k Plat till now..), but i think, it's getting hopeless to have nearly the best Equip ingame.

I know, that things can also drop in Elite Warchests, but how high is the Chance? 0,00001%?

I really don't like the way, which the Game takes!!!!!!!

If im not a Guild Master, i surely quitted the Game, no rage quit! That would be a logic quit.

I for me, always wanna have the best ingame Items, but now it's nearly impossible to get that.

I did a lot of Mount Runs (140+ or more? Don't know) for farming Nordr Staff.... In all these runs i see it dropping 1 times (not for me). Now i bought it for over 500k...lol.....

How long would i need to farm Mythic Gun? 6000 runs? Oh mom.........yeah....i only need a little bit luck.......hmm i opened some locked.....oh, my luck is in holiday, i think....

My wife told me, that i'm a Hardcore Gamer....but in this Game it is getting to heavy for me, to get the best Items......i give up.....

I'm sorry about that, because i really like this Game, i'm still thinking this Game have big Potencial.......

[Nitamana]

I did a lot of Mount Runs (140+ or more? Don't know) for farming Nordr Staff.... In all these runs i see it dropping 1 times (not for me). Now i bought it for over 500k...lol.....

All those runs with loot reroll? Without it you should not try a legend drop. Just in my experience.

[Uzii]

yea but what about the people that own all those and some more?

this game doesn't require you to have mythics or even elite pinks to play and have fun.
if you find yourself depressed over these expensive gears then I think it's time for you to either take a break or study hard and get a job b/c "659.88" is nothing compared to how long it takes to earn 20m gold from farming/merching

yes u dont really need mythic or elite pinks. but u farm and sell (if u have somthing to sell) and play this game to get the best possible gear for u.
the prices in cs right now for some of the items r ridiculous i think. and as u said it takes a lot of time to get such amount of gold.
lol yes "659.88" is compared to that nothing but its someones month salary too. i cant imagine to blow it on an armor that will be worthless in couple of months. but sure thers some players that for them its really nothing, and for them r only those items bc only they can afford to buy it. so other 95% of players will never get them. however if the prices would be a bit lower more players could enjoy them. thats my opinion.
now r those items only cumulating in hands of a few that r trying to sell it for ridiculosly high price. so i dont really am affraid abt those ppl that own those items, they r rich and always will be. im more worried abt those other 95%.

[Jed]

Comparing platinum to gold doesn't really show that much. Sure, if you rely on buying platinum to get gold, go ahead, but it is far easier to get gold than platinum for most people. Many of the rich people have bought plat, but probably haven't converted it into gold. Paying $55 for 1.7m gold is too much anyway.
Sure, getting a million or 20m gold is difficult, but all the rich people haven't used hundreds of real dollars to directly buy their gold.
What gets all this gold is dedication. Some money, but mostly dedication.
You can play all you want without mythics or arcanes and be successful. If you expect to get the absolute top gear with little effort, you're wrong. I'll probably never get an Arcane, but I'm fine with that and so are many others.

[Teuzha]

Time, patience, blah blah. I have played since the launch of AL. Don't think I'm some noob complaining. I have played PL and SL also. I am well aware of gold and plat. And STS practices. My point is that STS doesn't set prices, we do. So who is responsible for everything costing so much, we are. I am not afraid of grinding for xp and gold. But it all comes down to chance of what you get from a locked crate. So all the grinding means nothing, you can't earn anything, so what does hard work get you......nothing. Roll some dice on a crate. Hahahahahaha

[Pandamoni]

I agree that it is insane, but if people choose to spend their fun money in such a manner, who am I to tell them they're wrong. I don't think it's a good return on investment, but some people apparently do.

I told my husband this morning how much some people spend on this game and he looked at me and said, "you haven't dumped 1,000's into it, have you?!". Haha. I told him I've only spent $500 (jokingly) and he almost choked. Hehe. While you and I can't imagine taking away from our families by spending so much here, others have more money to throw away. I do worry, though, that some can't afford it but are drawn in to the gambling aspect. Gambling is a true addiction for some and I imagine that there are people blowing money they don't have for the hope of one arcane or mythic item.

[Zuzeq]

Ill put a foot in both sides. Prices are redic, I just got lucky. On the other hand, if you don't want to pay...just wait. "The best" is only the best for what? 3-4months max?

[Chaim Nail]

Gambling is a true addiction for some and I imagine that there are people blowing money they don't have for the hope of one arcane or mythic item.

This raises an interesting topic, are online games that have in-game currency which can be bought with real money exempt from gambling laws? Even when it's possible to spend thousands of dollars on the in-game currency? Because casinos, betting shops etc. are under some pretty rigorous laws in regards to payouts etc. Plus you can buy plat with PayPal, a company that prohibits its use for gambling.

[Sibayjing]

Totally agree! Even If Sts need to make some profit, AL is less interesting with crate system. When I play a game, I like to hunt for the top gears but I realize that I can't compete with plat users. It is no longer playing to win but nearest to pay to win

I know some people who have convert many plat to gold. for example, know somone who have 16-18 millions just in converting plat, imagine the amount. He just said to me, i want this mithyc armor for rogue so I can pay it and be easily.

[Uzii]

This raises an interesting topic, are online games that have in-game currency which can be bought with real money exempt from gambling laws? Even when it's possible to spend thousands of dollars on the in-game currency? Because casinos, betting shops etc. are under some pretty rigorous laws in regards to payouts etc. Plus you can buy plat with PayPal, a company that prohibits its use for gambling.

I dont know if gambling is the right word bc gambling its not allowed for underaged ppl *light sarkazm*

[Redtank]

The thing is don't try to make it drop for you, just play the game and have fun and maybe just maybe it will drop for you.

I see your guys point of view though, I wouldn't be happy if I spent that much money and still had no chance of getting to drop

Hope this helped

[xcainnblecterx]

This why I miss per release, the best gear was going for 50-100k and I thought sts was going try keep the al economy like their sl one(IMO SL and DL have the best economy systems). Then crates and a gold cap raise to 99mil completely blew that out the water. Now every one wants to reach 99mil in a day. Quick fix is cap it at 1mil, yea people will complain that it needs to be higher and blah blah but it could work as some people wouldn't want to do trades over the cap limit. In pl there was a 3rd party system to sell dragon sets/pieces for over 9.9 mil(the cap limit there) so some would do that. I just know that even at merching, by the time I get enough for a mythic piece it'll be next cap already

[gundamsone]

Your statement is nothing but ur love for sts. I don't want to suit em, I like this game and I don't open crates, but the similarity with casino is obvious. Does anyone force people to gamble in casino? No. It's a choice, if you win you win.. You see, right? And counter sue wouldn't help much as you can voice your discontent in defense of children from gambling (works everytime.. and game is 13+).

Life is a gamble. You need to make choices even at a very young age.
You blame the company when under age kids loot crates and don't get what they want? or should you blame the parents who give them their credit cards to make these purchases.

I seriously don't get the point of these threads. It's not the first time we've seen it and certainly there will be more in the future.
And just want to get this across, I don't LOVE STS, nor do I support them as much as most players here do, so i'm just speaking from a neutral perspective.

@ tramtamtam
What do you propose then if they remove the crate system.
I do not see people elixiring enough to fund this game and future development unless they make elixirs give 4x the bonus (which will create rants again).
And a subscription based system was mostly rejected when it was proposed a few times by players.

I own a business myself, and ofc I want to satisfy the customer in every way I can but it has to be reasonable enough so at the end of the day, I have enough money to support my own life.
I think what STS did for this game is brilliant, and better than any idea they've had in any of the other Legends titles.

[psychoscream]

Well guys ....,

1- you can pay 200 $ and open creats there is a big chance to get mythic or 2
2- no one forces you to buy mythic, you can buy noble armor the stats difference isn't that big
3- I am supporting STS with all my heart because they made a great creative one of a kind game
That will last for a long time
4-
are u going to suit STS because someone puts a mythic armor for 20m ?

5- mythic armor is now 15m you can buy it for 10 at AL traders market