Okay zau don't bother quoting this cuz all ur gonna be saying "mmph member wants his gear to have value,they hoard blah blah blah and more non sense and cries". My point here is won't it get boring playing with same members all the time?and I've tried no gear and only weapon vs(yes, foolish but for fun only) and it did not end at all so maybe with low damage its not possible to kill people ( haven't tested) but if you play with same members it does get boring and do please post videos of pvp at 19 as I'm really interested in seeing if it's fun( if all works well add dangercorps I may come 19 too!!)