Originally Posted by
Genuinous
I see many unhappy people flaming here, so let me write down what and why happened, as well as clarifying scores on the brackets. (updated brackets with scores)
Regarding warrior v warrior in 2v2
The match between Paulsebi&Xcs and Boss&Ramyunstyle left everyone unhappy. I understand, that this was a bad match. I should have realized that if 2 warriors on each team get matched up, that will not end. Ever. Yet I ignored this, because I believed, and I still do, that while 2 warriors are difficult to beat, a well balanced team can and will beat them. Not knowing the specific classes, I allowed this match to happen. You guys kept fighting for about 15 minutes or so, before I interfered and told you to dismiss your pets. We have done this change in the previous event (with Delphina around), and in 1v1 situations this helped to end the fight. I have no intention to rush a fight, but anything over 10 minutes without any hint of ending is just too long. Other players want to compete as well and are eager to participate. While it is certainly not ideal to end your fight and get rid of your pets, I hoped that similarly to a 1v1 situation, it would resolve problems. But it didn't. After another 15 minutes of going nowhere, nobody ran out of mana or got near to die without having heal ready and back to full hp, I had to make a decision. I could watch your guys fight for 2 hours and hope that something would happen or change the rules and conditions and allow everyone else to complete their matches. I tried to be open with you by making suggestions on how to change the fight in order to get a result (ie the suggestions made by me), but they were not quite welcomed, thus I decided that you should fight without heal. This was not an ideal solution, but a fair one. All four of you had heal skill and all four of you lost it. While some of your builds certainly relied more heavily on heal than others, I thought this was the best solution available. Also I allowed you to play until 3 wins, hoping to eliminate randomness better. I hope you will understand why I had to do this, even though it is a bad solution. Apologies for allowing warrior teams, should not have happened.
Regarding rules and rule changes
All players are expected to have read and understood the rules for the event. If you sign up, I assume you know what you are signing up for. This is a basic requirement that I will hold for all participants, not knowing the rules doesn't mean they don't apply for you. You can't possibly expect me to remind every player of the rules. If and when rules have to be changed, I will either announce them in the forums if it applies to everyone (ie hooks banned), or only to the relevant players (ie the above situation). Also in no post I have ever mentioned warm up matches and such.
Regarding restarting matches
Let me clear this up, as there was some annoyance about this as well. Matches will be restarted if the organizer judges that there is something wrong and that it is obviously and heavily effecting the outcome of the fight. These conditions will always be judged by the organizer who overview the match, as he is the only one who can make the relevant decisions.
Example for matches which can be restarted:
-Skills hitting organizer (easy to see)
-Early starts (match will be stopped right away)
-Skill fail right at the start of a match (this can be easily seen and justified by organizer)
Example for matches which will not be restarted:
-Skill fails (it is hard to judge if a skill really failed or not, also we all know skills fail when they are cast at the time you are stunned) exception above
-Lag (it is a serious issue, but again, cannot be confirmed)
As you can see, matches can be restarted when there is a clear reason, which the organizer can justify. Any other reason will not be accepted. Also I would like to say, that I will trust the decisions made by Dupstepticons to be correct, but I cannot verify it as I have not seen those matches. I can only speak for matches which I have overseen and in those I went by the above mentioned principles.
Regarding the match between Lordstephen&Vistix vs Thetruebeast&Xbabydom
I have made a crucial mistake here, by advancing the wrong team. Lord and Vis should have advanced to the second round, but by accident I have advanced Beast and Baby. However after advancing Beast and Baby fought hard to achieve third place, so I will not take it away from them. After realizing my mistake, Lord and Vis fought against Serancha&Ravagerx in a best of 5 match and they lost 3-1. This was the bronze match, that might have happened. I know this is not the best solution, but I don't see any other options other than replaying the event, which would cause problems for many players.
Thetruebeast&Xbabydom will receive 50 platinum for their 3rd place (less than original since they did lose a match)
Serancha&Ravagerx will receive 35 platinum for their 4th place (no change to them)
Lordstephen&Vistrix will receive 25 platinum (due to mistake on my part and the fact that they did beat the 3rd place team)
Again, apologies for this mess.
I hope I have answered many of your questions regarding the event. I stand by the decisions I have made, even if it leaves some players unhappy. I have made some mistakes, but I believe most of the fights were unaffected and players still had fun competing. I want to congratulate the winners again, prizes will be granted in time. If you disagree with me, any decisions or outcome of your match, please send me a PM and don't go on flaming in this thread.
Note: Don't ever organize an event without access to a computer as it will lack significant organization. Will not attempt such again.
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