Fixing CTF: A PL Perspective

**Speedofsound** · 10-17-2013, 02:58 PM

I love this idea. All i do now is play tdm because ctf is full of 1v1 or team fights, not actually ctf. Getting enough guilds to encourage players to play ctf for what it really is would really help pvp. I also love the idea of only one spawn room. It would make regrouping and getting ready to go for the flag easier.

**Drearivev** · 10-17-2013, 04:51 PM

Originally Posted by Alhuntrazeck

I remember in the beginning of AL PvP, how I used to run likeabaws style with epics and charge hooks users - and really CAPTURE THE FLAG. Me and a friend used to guard the flag base, whenever we played together - the opposite team would have to get to us first!

Now CTF is essentially TDM...id love if CTF became CTF once more!

I'm supporting you on this idea, Apollo. My guild seems to have something cooking up about a real CTF match...if more guilds took up this idea it would be great!

Tourneys seem fun too. Id donate a lot for a legendary set tourney!

That would be awesome. I expect other tourneys (like the one Delph hosted a few months ago) to mostly be filled up with Mythic users. Something like that a legendary set only would help me

Also, this idea is great. Would love some tourneys in this game, at least more often.

**Roberto077** · 10-17-2013, 05:22 PM

I thought this was in PLs PvP section....

**Zeus** · 10-17-2013, 05:58 PM

Update: Samhayne responded to my PM and stated he will try to throw together an exclusive tournament banner along with platinum rewards.

As for the rules, expect a tournament thread some time this week.

Also, for a heads up...this tournament will require coordination as it will run through several days. The last thing I want is for a tournament like this to drag on for months.

So, as a reminder, choose your teammates wisely as if everybody is not able to make it on the schedule time of fighting the opposing team, they will be disqualified without repeal.

Lastly, I'm thinking of imposing a limit on how many arcane/mythic players a team can have. I'm think 2-3 mythic/arcane players per team with mythic weapons being excluded as being counted as a mythic player, as specific classes can be considered useless without a mythic weapon.

P.S: A class limitation of having no more than 2 of the same class in a team will also be implemented.

Please, if there is anything you do not agree with, state reasons why respectfully & I will take them under consideration.

**Taejo** · 10-17-2013, 06:14 PM

Originally Posted by Apollo

Lastly, I'm thinking of imposing a limit on how many arcane/mythic players a team can have. I'm think 2-3 mythic/arcane players per team with mythic weapons being excluded as being counted as a mythic player, as specific classes can be considered useless without a mythic weapon.

I think for Season 5, mythics are abundant enough to be considered "fair" in a tournament. Arcanes, however, are not - especially Samael (tbh he completely ruins the fun of Player versus Player). My vote is do not allow arcane weapons or pets at all.

Thanks for setting this up. Let me know if you need a hand with anything. Sounds like it will be fun!

EDIT: Side thought - might be interesting to have a special circumstance such as every team must use Deary or George. Just an example, something along those lines. Having a twist that helps balance out teams is always a good thing in tournaments, I think.

**Zeus** · 10-17-2013, 06:19 PM

Originally Posted by Taejo

I think for Season 5, mythics are abundant enough to be considered "fair" in a tournament. Arcanes, however, are not - especially Samael (tbh he completely ruins the fun of Player versus Player). My vote is do not allow arcane weapons or pets at all.

Thanks for setting this up. Let me know if you need a hand with anything. Sounds like it will be fun!

EDIT: Side thought - might be interesting to have a special circumstance such as every team must use Deary or George. Just an example, something along those lines. Having a twist that helps balance out teams is always a good thing in tournaments, I think.

True, the only thing I'm worried about is teams just going with fully geared players which is why I thought of implementing the rule. If that happened, there simply wouldn't be enough players to have a decent size bracket.

**Taejo** · 10-17-2013, 06:26 PM

Originally Posted by Apollo

True, the only thing I'm worried about is teams just going with fully geared players which is why I thought of implementing the rule. If that happened, there simply wouldn't be enough players to have a decent size bracket.

I agree with what you're saying. The problem is gear will be difficult to verify with vanities and loadouts being used. Weapons can be easily verified, however. You will definitely need referees if you choose to limit gear somehow.

**Zeus** · 10-17-2013, 06:29 PM

Originally Posted by Taejo

I agree with what you're saying. The problem is gear will be difficult to verify with vanities and loadouts being used. Weapons can be easily verified, however. You will definitely need referees if you choose to limit gear somehow.

No vanities will be allowed.

Also, I think I already have a system in place to prevent any of that going on. If players still want to figure out ways to cheat, then there simply wouldn't be prizes or any further incentives for more tournaments.

**Argyros** · 10-17-2013, 06:30 PM

I play both games, Al and Pl. I'm on mobile, where I see threads from both forums. I always view them, but I never bother to actually post on them. Partially because I don't do endgame in Al, and never do anything but pvp. I have just enough to have a good twink. I do think that vanities maybe banners, would be really motivational for pvp guild wars ect.

Oh sorry for not clarifying, but the first two sentences I was talking about Pl, the last one was about Al. I really had bad wording. >.<

**wowdah** · 10-17-2013, 07:27 PM

Good.

**Zeus** · 10-17-2013, 08:55 PM

Here's a teaser of tournament rules!

Tournament Rules:
• A team leader may have no more than 2 of the same class on his team.
• Before starting the match, each team must regroup into ONE spawn that is directly across from where the other team's spawn location is.
• Before starting the match, one player of each team must go near the enemy's spawn to insure that no team member is attempting to get a head start. (Yes, these team members that go explore are technically the only players that are allowed a head start)
• No vanities may be warn.
• No trash talking during the entire time the tournament is taking place may occur. If any team player is found to be trash talking or behaving non-sportsmanlike, they will be disqualified and the team will not be allowed to sub in another player.
• A team is allowed to have 1 sub, but that sub may not qualify to play if there is 2 of the same class active in the team.
• Opposing teams facing each other MUST agree on a time & date to play. This must be done within 2 days of knowing who your opposing team is.
• If a team does not meet on the time & date specified, they will be disqualified. (Under special circumstances, I will allow ONE re-trial to successfully meet up). If this means that team players have to stay up at a time inconvenient to them, so be it. There are sacrifices one must make for developer sponsored tournaments.
• A screenshot of an agreeing time and date for each match-up must be posted AND PM'd to Apollo
• If a team member goes AFK, it is up to the other team to decide wether to wait or not. However, sportsmanship and common courtesy will be appreciated.
• Any drama/situations/disagreements once the tournament is in session must be PM'd to me. If any posts are made on the tournament thread, it will result in that player dropping out of the tournament.
• There may be no more than 2 stun pets on one team. This tournament will require variation.
• Arcane pets will be allowed, but no more than 2 arcane pets will be allowed on the team.
• Arcane weapons will be allowed.
• Mythic items will be allowed.
• Only 1 arcane rarity item is allowed to be equipped. Meaning, if one has a Maul of Ollerus and Samael, they will have to choose which one to use.
• Every team must have at least ONE non-mythic player.
• Spawning or blocking off an opposing team's entrance will result in the entire team's automatic disqualification.
• ANY RULES BROKEN MUST BE PROVEN WITH EVIDENCE OR THEY WILL BE CONSIDERED NULL.

Note: These rules are subject to change at any time, but let me know how these sounds. Please, constructive criticism only! If there is any add-ons, let me know.

If anyone would like me to add any rules as well, please suggest them & I will do so.

Please post on this thread if you're interested in joining the tournament: http://www.spacetimestudios.com/newt...ewthread&f=131

With that being said, I will be participating in this tournament. However, there is a situation which involves me requires judgement, I would request that Taejo be the co-tournament host if an event like that occurs.