Ban the Midas Touch

**Kakashis** · 11-04-2013, 02:56 PM

Originally Posted by Samhayne

Hey guys,

We've actually been talking about removing the top 3 gold achievements for a while now, given the scamming issues that come up from them. The team is sensitive to the titles, those who have them and those who would like to obtain them in the future. We don't have a specific course of action that we're prepared to announce, but I think it is safe to say that we will be doing something with them in the future.

Thanks for keeping this thread friendly.

Thank you STS! Honestly those titles don't do anything other than show off anyways.

**ipredator** · 11-04-2013, 03:05 PM

agreed on that .. the AP is just pointless anyway.

**epicrrr** · 11-04-2013, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by Samhayne

Hey guys,

We've actually been talking about removing the top 3 gold achievements for a while now, given the scamming issues that come up from them. The team is sensitive to the titles, those who have them and those who would like to obtain them in the future. We don't have a specific course of action that we're prepared to announce, but I think it is safe to say that we will be doing something with them in the future.

Thanks for keeping this thread friendly.

Im pretty sure, gold related titles doesnt really have an impact with Arcane Legends gameplay say of course for bragging purposes, so I support for its removal! (AP/Titles)

**SayCreed** · 11-04-2013, 03:17 PM

Who doesn't love sammy

**Emmacheese** · 11-04-2013, 03:20 PM

Originally Posted by Rushed

Who doesn't love sammy

I love sammy! Haha :-)

**SayCreed** · 11-04-2013, 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by Emmacheese

I love sammy! Haha :-)

:-)
I liek u too :P

**Samdegreat** · 11-04-2013, 03:39 PM

Don't get rid of it lol otherwise I'll have to get 5000 flags ....

**SayCreed** · 11-04-2013, 03:41 PM

Originally Posted by Samdegreat

Don't get rid of it lol otherwise I'll have to get 5000 flags ....

-1

Down with That Ap

Gg Panda

**nyknicks** · 11-04-2013, 03:47 PM

Jon nice thread and I completely agree wih u

**Milan Lame Man** · 11-04-2013, 04:19 PM

Originally Posted by Joncheese

She is talking about someone who quit the game because he got scammed.

Originally Posted by inkredble

You should've stayed away from this thread, you don't know what you're talking about.

Oh well. Now I know part of the story.

Originally Posted by Samhayne

We don't have a specific course of action that we're prepared to announce, but I think it is safe to say that we will be doing something with them in the future.

There is also the other way: make achievement for 10k, 20k, 50k, 100k, 200k, 500k, 1m... ad infinitum. One day a player will think:
"Enough of that. Back to playing for fun."
As I see it, part of the problem is that Midas Touch is *the* ultimate gold achievement.

**Emmacheese** · 11-04-2013, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by Rushed

:-)
I liek u too :P

Haha awww I likes u also! :-)

**gumball3000** · 11-04-2013, 04:47 PM

Oh but they do, they have a great deal of impact on the gameplay. The players who do try to get the ap legitimately gather a LOT of gold that is taken out of the economic circuit. This leads to increased difficulty in trading and low auction price for farmed items.

**Instanthumor** · 11-04-2013, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by ipredator

agreed on that .. the AP is just pointless anyway.

Lolz, exactly.

**KingMartin** · 11-04-2013, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by Milan Lame Man

Oh well. Now I know part of the story.

There is also the other way: make achievement for 10k, 20k, 50k, 100k, 200k, 500k, 1m... ad infinitum. One day a player will think:
"Enough of that. Back to playing for fun."
As I see it, part of the problem is that Midas Touch is *the* ultimate gold achievement.

Unfortunately, scamming the ultimate title automatically yields all the previous ones. (OK, I don't take your "ad infinitum" too seriously because that would degrade all other hard-earned APs). Similarly you might have ad infinitum pve kills (the best LB players had some kind of bot code/exploit anyway), pvp kills etc...

If pve highest AP is at 10k kills, then asset can stick to 10M too. Higher not needed as mentioned zillion times in this thread and demonstrated by donkey too.

**Lovingly** · 11-04-2013, 05:35 PM

my heart bleeds fo those who have been scammed bcus of this poitless AP, +1111 to you jono!

**Valkiryas** · 11-04-2013, 05:45 PM

Totally Agreed!

Thanks Sam!, A few friends lost their millions triying get these AP, is a solution for stop the " Ap's Scammers "

**Kjalisi** · 11-04-2013, 06:04 PM

Originally Posted by Alfai

Suggestions for new aps:

3.20k flags (title:ionlyflag)

lol!

**Limsi** · 11-04-2013, 06:29 PM

The gold achievement was designed in a way to reward players of their hard work in either farming/merching. Despite the fact that you see quite a number of players wearing the title, only a mere small percentage really achieved it the legitimate way. While it could be agreed upon that the achievement promote trust among friends as lending gold with the hopes of gaining it back from a trusted friend - it's never a happy ending for the majority.

I firmly believe that whenever there is a source for a potential risk/hazard, it is best that that source is eliminated. Yes one could argue that it's always the fault of the lender, but isn't it possible that this scenario does not stir up in the first place?

**Milan Lame Man** · 11-04-2013, 08:01 PM

Originally Posted by KingMartin

Originally Posted by Milan Lame Man

There is also the other way: make achievement for 10k, 20k, 50k, 100k, 200k, 500k, 1m... ad infinitum.

(OK, I don't take your "ad infinitum" too seriously because that would degrade all other hard-earned APs). Similarly you might have ad infinitum pve kills (the best LB players had some kind of bot code/exploit anyway), pvp kills etc...

If pve highest AP is at 10k kills, then asset can stick to 10M too. Higher not needed as mentioned zillion times in this thread and demonstrated by donkey too.

I'm not sure I understand your argument. Of course each step should give the same amount of APs (say 100).
My point is that there is always the next step, so your "friends" won't scam you for the current step, as long as it's not the last step.
I don't see how introducing achievement of 200m gold is degrading 1k PvP kills. If it's easy for you to get another 100m gold, you totally deserve another 100 APs.

Yes, the "ad infinitum" idea can be extended to all assets. It's just sooo much easier to get 1k PvP kills than 100m gold that leaderboard players will have to be good at (more or less) everything, instead of just getting "all" APs and going WT4 for PvE kills. Or whatever they do.

BTW it might be easier for STS to prevent automated kill farming, rather than preventing people scamming each other.

**Joncheese** · 11-04-2013, 08:22 PM

Originally Posted by Milan Lame Man

I'm not sure I understand your argument. Of course each step should give the same amount of APs (say 100).
My point is that there is always the next step, so your "friends" won't scam you for the current step, as long as it's not the last step.
I don't see how introducing achievement of 200m gold is degrading 1k PvP kills. If it's easy for you to get another 100m gold, you totally deserve another 100 APs.

Yes, the "ad infinitum" idea can be extended to all assets. It's just sooo much easier to get 1k PvP kills than 100m gold that leaderboard players will have to be good at (more or less) everything, instead of just getting "all" APs and going WT4 for PvE kills. Or whatever they do.

BTW it might be easier for STS to prevent automated kill farming, rather than preventing people scamming each other.

This won't make the game a safer place. Which is what we are aiming for. Kill farming as far as I know isn't commonplace, scams are ATM.