[Guide]: Farming Elite Shuyal - A Sorcerer's Perspective

[Anyona]

yeah but I get 3K health with malison and I got 906 armour too

Still though, I would choose health over damage anyday, thats why I reccomended Tarlok Versatility because it has, good armour, good health and still good damage. As for your build.... Personally I dont like it gale is a skill which is meant for aoe not single target, if you want to use gale switch it with lifegiver.
I run 2/5 lifegiver
4/5 Clock
4/5 Fire
4/5 Shield
4/5 Lightning

5/5 Str Passive
5/5 Int Passive
5/5 Damage
2/5 Dex
And everyone is right, you used 95% of what Zues wrote, in the future try to make your guides more original

[keikali]

Easy everyone this hardness might kill is helping spirit.
One day he might want to write a legendary guide but he gets blocked when he remembers this harsh criticsm.


Sent from the white wall in my room using charcoal.

Can't take the heat? Get out of the kitchen.

Critism of any kind is beneficial to the player because not one, not two, but a bunch of people will criticize and point out all the issues and flaws so that he/she will not make the same mistake again in the future.

[Ebezaanec]

Lol.. Even the font is the same as Parf's Guide.

It's an "ok" guide, but I would add more info and personal experience on your Elite Runs.

After all, this is a "sorcerer's perspective" not a "rogue's copy & paste perspective."

[Zeus]

Thanks for just copying my entire format of a guide that I spent an hour or so editing for.

But hey, if you're helping people, I guess I can live with that.

P.S: Can I sue? Lol.

[Ebezaanec]

Thanks for just copying my entire format of a guide that I spent an hour or so editing for.

But hey, if you're helping people, I guess I can live with that.

P.S: Can I sue? Lol.

Sure, you can get the Elite Cap banner he doesn't have yet

Or maybe the royalties from his farming?

[Anarchist]

Can't take the heat? Get out of the kitchen.

Critism of any kind is beneficial to the player because not one, not two, but a bunch of people will criticize and point out all the issues and flaws so that he/she will not make the same mistake again in the future.

There's is a costructive way to criticize and a NON costructive way to criticize, then there is a demoralizing way to criticize and this is the worst.

Sent with my last strenght from the real of dreams.

[Zeus]

There's is a costructive way to criticize and a NON costructive way to criticize, then there is a demoralizing way to criticize and this is the worst.

Sent with my last strenght from the real of dreams.

Funny you should say that... heh.

[keikali]

There's is a costructive way to criticize and a NON costructive way to criticize, then there is a demoralizing way to criticize and this is the worst.

Sent with my last strenght from the real of dreams.

Oh my way was very constructive. It means to stop plagiarizing other people's hard work and throwing in a couple of your own words to pawn it off as your own work. Look at his thread creation history, I haven't really seen any concrete useful topics. Remember that 10K AP thread he created? LOLwut? Yea the one what Avshow won, whelp, thats that I guess.

FYI even though he gave credit to Parf et. al., Parf NEVER said it was okay to take his work and use it as a basis for a guide. I asked Parf myself and he had no clue this thread was even created till I directed him to it. (Sorry for putting you on the spot Parf). Also I highly doubt Emma or Jon okay'd this either. So hey welcome to textbook plagiarism 101.

You along with others can defend him all you want, but the truth is this guide should be debunked and not even considered work. Truth hurts, deal with it.

[HeartlessR]

Thanks for just copying my entire format of a guide that I spent an hour or so editing for.

But hey, if you're helping people, I guess I can live with that.

P.S: Can I sue? Lol.

Hold on he didn't ask permission? Lol wow. Trainwreck incoming. If I wasn't on my phone id have a meme for this

Serious though buddy you cant do this kindof stuff without asking permission to use it first. Itll get you in alot of trouble in the real world. even if youre trying to help.

[Zeus]

Sorc,

I'm not mad at you or anything, first off. Annoyed? Sure, I worked on that format to make it easy to read and understandable.


References: These are pieces of data created by someone else. You notice Jon & Emma's loot table in the guide? That was a reference. If you notice Zuzeq's nox box explanation, that's a reference as well.

Plagiarism: Taking a person's entire format & saying thanks for the help is equivalent to taking a book like Green Eggs & Ham and rewriting by just replacing the title with Brown Eggs & Turkey, as well as replacing the entire storyline with words like "brown eggs", "bob, I am" & "turkey".

That isn't allowed. ^^

However, this is a public forums so I don't think you have done anything illegal (could be wrong). It's just that it's downright disrespectful.

[Anarchist]

Funny you should say that... heh.

Ahahahahahahah!!
I learnt my lesson

You along with others can defend him all you want, but the truth is this guide should be debunked and not even considered work. Truth hurts, deal with it.

You don't get me i am not saying
this guide isn't a copy paste and edit
work (if you read
the replies i was the first person to tell him) or that it's a masterpiece guide.

IMHO even though this is a paste and edit work he still put some effort rediting and adding his gameplay experience, so i don't think you have the right to thinks his work is trash.

I think he wanted to make a sequel of Zeus thread (good job man) for sorcerers but failed in the attempt even do this is not a OP guide it is still a try and a contribution to the forum.

Coming to tries where's your own elite shuyal guide for sorcerers go and do it and then come back and say other ppl work is trash.

Dunno for .sorc but Personally if someone criticize me in a trolling way like you and some others did then he is looking for my trouble and i dont listen to that person.


Sent with my last breath from the real of dreams.

[Striderevil]

In my opinion if you can't get slag get clyde its gives you high crit. For constant AoE high int. Stat for the imp. Dmg. and most imp. his panic ability works often enough to make him better than grimm

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[keikali]

You don't get me i am not saying
this guide isn't a copy paste and edit
work (if you read
the replies i was the first person to tell him) or that it's a masterpiece guide.

IMHO even though this is a paste and edit work he still put some effort rediting and adding his gameplay experience, so i don't think you have the right to thinks his work is trash.

I think he wanted to make a sequel of Zeus thread (good job man) for sorcerers but failed in the attempt even do this is not a OP guide it is still a try and a contribution to the forum.

Coming to tries where's your own elite shuyal guide for sorcerers go and do it and then come back and say other ppl work is trash.

Dunno for .sorc but Personally if someone criticize me in a trolling way like you and some others did then he is looking for my trouble and i dont listen to that person.


Sent with my last breath from the real of dreams.

No. You're not getting me.This is textbook plagiarism and you're condoning it. Taking someone's work and rewording a few then pawning it off is not called contributing. It's called being a cheat and is looked down upon anywhere.

Lol@you thinking I'm trolling. I don't have to write my own guide. I don't have to talk the talk because those who have run with me know I walk the walk.

If you or him choose not to listen then you're just being stubborn. Keep on defending cheats, it gets you nowhere.

[Anarchist]

No. You're not getting me.This is textbook plagiarism and you're condoning it. Taking someone's work and rewording a few then pawning it off is not called contributing. It's called being a cheat and is looked down upon anywhere.

Lol@you thinking I'm trolling. I don't have to write my own guide. I don't have to talk the talk because those who have run with me know I walk the walk.

If you or him choose not to listen then you're just being stubborn. Keep on defending cheats, it gets you nowhere.

I don't think you know what a forum is meant for.
A forum is a open source (ex Linux) where everybody can add is contribution aiming to improve things and acheive a goal together. (not all contributions are accepted or good)

Where you see plagiarism i see continuation. A nor good nor bad Shuyal elite farming guide for Mage players with at the base Zeus guide for Rogues.
In an open source their is no Secret or Personal if you want that then go to a closed group (ex Microsoft).

Though it would have been a good act of politeness if .sorc asked Zeus permission he didn't but condemning his work bcuz he didn't ask permission and not for the contents is not fair.

For your info, I hate cheaters and forum gangers.

[aarrgggggg]

When i first read this i did not realize to what extent this thread was copied and pasted. Tsk Tsk
Hoardseeker i think people appreciate u trying to contribute to the al community however
This thread is not the way to go about it.

Be original and make your own contributions to the community. Originality will be thanked and respected

[Hoardseeker]

You want the cliffnotes version?

1) Copy & Pasta, unoriginal. 95% is based off of Parf's guide
2) No claims to support his C&P guide. It's like saying yea "trust me", lolwut?
3) Giving misinformed information is one of the worst things you can do in anything. People take what you say and they try it out themselves and when it doesn't work (guide debunked), they wasted maybe tons of their own time and money to "try" this guide.
4) I am badass and awesome.

inb4 why so srs with joker face.

Lol the very funny thing is that he hasn't even hit the cap yet.
I bet he hasn't finished any of Elite Shuyal maps.

And yes, 95% copy and paste from Zeus'.

lol I made full elite shuyal check my title too

[Hoardseeker]

When i first read this i did not realize to what extent this thread was copied and pasted. Tsk Tsk
Hoardseeker i think people appreciate u trying to contribute to the al community however
This thread is not the way to go about it.

Be original and make your own contributions to the community. Originality will be thanked and respected

hmm ty

[Reunegade]

hmm ty

It is very rare that I post in these forums; heck, I barely even play AL. But what I have seen you do I have not seen anywhere on any forums. Sure, you might not have broken the forum rules, but you did plagiarize the entire guide. Although you did credit Zeus, the entire guide is almost the same exact thing. I am not going to start a flame war, I just ask of one simple request: apologize to those who you have copied off of and please ask the mods to delete your guide. This is morally wrong and I hope you learn from this.

[basketholic209]

lol I made full elite shuyal check my title too

What title? Crystal Conquerer? Are you being serious?

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[Anyona]

lol I made full elite shuyal check my title too

You may have wrote guide in the title but this isnt a guide lol, this is basically a copy of someone else's work, would you like it if someone stole your work? No, I suggest you ask a dev to remove this because its not fair that you have used someone elses work and called it your own...