TIME SHIFT or frost bolt?

**Newcomx** · 01-30-2014, 02:49 AM

Originally Posted by Striderevil

No one uses it as it says +10 for 10 seconds which means 100 hp extra. Even pets heal at a better regen rate lol.

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Waste of skill point if sorc use heal over time upgrade..

**Wutzgood** · 01-30-2014, 09:18 AM

Originally Posted by Newcomx

Waste of skill point if sorc use heal over time upgrade..

It's a waste of skill points putting any points in heal for pve. Honestly if a warrior lacks the concentration to hit the mana potion button occasionally they most likely need to work on their playing skills. They should also never try the other classes since you have to be constantly ready to hit the potion button anytime you get hit or you may be killed by the next hit. Playing as a warrior is like playing on easy mode to begin with so learn to use potions to be the best player you can be.

**Striderevil** · 01-30-2014, 07:49 PM

Originally Posted by Wutzgood

It's a waste of skill points putting any points in heal for pve. Honestly if a warrior lacks the concentration to hit the mana potion button occasionally they most likely need to work on their playing skills. They should also never try the other classes since you have to be constantly ready to hit the potion button anytime you get hit or you may be killed by the next hit. Playing as a warrior is like playing on easy mode to begin with so learn to use potions to be the best player you can be.

Sorcerer the topic is sorcerer

**Newcomx** · 01-30-2014, 10:05 PM

Originally Posted by Wutzgood

It's a waste of skill points putting any points in heal for pve. Honestly if a warrior lacks the concentration to hit the mana potion button occasionally they most likely need to work on their playing skills. They should also never try the other classes since you have to be constantly ready to hit the potion button anytime you get hit or you may be killed by the next hit. Playing as a warrior is like playing on easy mode to begin with so learn to use potions to be the best player you can be.

He have different playstyle... i'm like supporting role for sorc, i like more team play where each team taking care or each other to get best result... and as i play warr.. i dont press mana pot ocassionally if sorc don't use their heal, I press each after cast skill.. so not ocassionally, unless i changed my gear by adding Int and sacrificing str that add defense.

**Sorcerie** · 01-31-2014, 09:40 AM

Mages are not mana teets for warriors and rouges to suckle on, and it annoys me to no end when I see them begging for it.

Learn to be independent on runs and use pots - I'm not going to stop and tell people on every run that I'm not a mana fountain. You should be able to adapt instantly to any PUG because you don't know what build they are working with and chances are you're not going to have enough time to figure it out. Mana pots are cheap, 1400 gold gets your 200, which should last you a couple of hours if you're a decent player with good battle practices and timing.

If you prefer to have a more communal play style then stick to running with guild mates who can give you the support you need, not everyone in the game is gonna cater to your mana starvation.

**utpal** · 02-01-2014, 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by Striderevil

No one uses it as it says +10 for 10 seconds which means 100 hp extra. Even pets heal at a better regen rate lol.

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u haven't played lvl30+ mage. at this lvl it heals about 100+ HP per second for 10sec. it means 1000+ hp (depends upon ur dmg and bonus dmg) only MP regen upgrade is useless as it heals only 50-60mp per sec for 5s

**utpal** · 02-01-2014, 09:26 AM

Originally Posted by Newcomx

VB gain mana + health is a chance, not all the time... and not too many

nope. it is not chance. it is consistent . more number of enemies effected by vb greater is its effectiveness. I use vb where there r large group.
and that group get affected by vb and when atcks i regain MP and HP. although MP is little but it is alot for war. one mob gives 70-80mp when atck bt when groups atcks my MP bar get filled instantly.

**utpal** · 02-01-2014, 09:29 AM

Originally Posted by Sirulian

Mages are not mana teets for warriors and rouges to suckle on, and it annoys me to no end when I see them begging for it.

Learn to be independent on runs and use pots - I'm not going to stop and tell people on every run that I'm not a mana fountain. You should be able to adapt instantly to any PUG because you don't know what build they are working with and chances are you're not going to have enough time to figure it out. Mana pots are cheap, 1400 gold gets your 200, which should last you a couple of hours if you're a decent player with good battle practices and timing.

If you prefer to have a more communal play style then stick to running with guild mates who can give you the support you need, not everyone in the game is gonna cater to your mana starvation.

I m fully independent war and m not dependent on sorc for healing HP or MP. coz ik how to regain MP by using vb

. lifegiver is useless skill better use shield or another offensive skill unless u pvp

**Otahaanak** · 02-01-2014, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by Striderevil

No one uses it as it says +10 for 10 seconds which means 100 hp extra. Even pets heal at a better regen rate lol.

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Agreed.

**otb** · 02-02-2014, 09:41 AM

Sorc attracts aggro because of DOT of fire, ice and timeshift. When you use these DOTs all at the same time, those mobs that don't get stunned/frozen/rooted (evil rogues & black skeletons for example) will really run after sorcs.

**Wutzgood** · 02-02-2014, 12:55 PM

I was helping a guild mate out yesterday beating overgrowth and he had 2 others (warrior and rogue) already there. We get to boss and the whole time both the warrior and rogue sit there with empty mana meters and beg the whole fight for mana. Neither used a single mana potion the whole fight. My reaction was to ignore them and just solo the boss while they sat there with no mana. Reminded me of this topic.

Worst players I've ever played with. Just heal your own mana and let me blast away with my 4 attack skills. Don't rely on others to keep your meters filled.

**Newcomx** · 02-03-2014, 01:33 AM

Originally Posted by utpal

nope. it is not chance. it is consistent . more number of enemies effected by vb greater is its effectiveness. I use vb where there r large group.
and that group get affected by vb and when atcks i regain MP and HP. although MP is little but it is alot for war. one mob gives 70-80mp when atck bt when groups atcks my MP bar get filled instantly.

As i read this, and i try VB, and its a change. Red number come out more often than blue and green number... that mean everytime we get hit and received damage, not always gain life or mana.... cmiiw

**Swoozay** · 02-03-2014, 01:51 AM

Everyone has their own playstyle, you guys don't think heal is useful, he does. Respect how he feels even if you disagree and stop arguing lol. This thread is about time shift vs frostbolt people. As for the real topic of this thread. If you are not using both, i would say time shift is much superior imo

**Newcomx** · 02-03-2014, 01:52 AM

Originally Posted by Newcomx

As i read this, and i try VB, and its a change. Red number come out more often than blue and green number... that mean everytime we get hit and received damage, not always gain life or mana.... cmiiw

I mean it's a chance to gain life or mana..

**Newcomx** · 02-03-2014, 01:55 AM

Originally Posted by Swoozay

Everyone has their own playstyle, you guys don't think heal is useful, he does. Respect how he feels even if you disagree and stop arguing lol. This thread is about time shift vs frostbolt people. As for the real topic of this thread. If you are not using both, i would say time shift is much superior imo

I think time shift more superior for damage, but i use frost defense purpose...