Inflation coming in 3..2.1 *B U M*.

[Rare]

Locked crates are no longer marked at 13k-14k. They were 15k before update and after plat sale. And now they sell from 11.5k to 12.5k. I am an avid locked crate seller and my entire business is around locked crates. So I am 100% certain of my info.

Right... 15k because of speculation and hoarding... then plat sale.

Now that the plat from the plat sale has been used, they are coming back down. Before the expansion they were selling on cs from 11.5-12.5k as I bought 150ish at around 10.5k

Right now (and before elixir kits), the supply FAR outweighs the demand. And I suspect the price is being kept at its level artificially by people hoarding them.

[Anarchist]

I don't lol. Unless there is an event going on like the level 36 mythic weapon weekend where 50 plat in lix made 1.5 mil in 2 days worth of locked.

Shazbot or klaas give me mine or I run with just leprechaun/jack amulet. Locked show up either way and I gain 2k per hour from liquidating crap if I don't find any. It's always guaranteed gold which is why I run it instead of elite maps. These kits won't effect the prices as much as you think they will.

Otherwise the leprechaun amulet would have killed the locked market since it's a real permanent reroll. Gamblers are always gonna gamble so locked will always sell. Some days are good and some are bad.

I am not talking only about lockeds but all items from malison eggs to magmatic claymores.

But you just helped me explain my point by introducing: leps.

Imagine the game without leprechaun amulets...don't you think there would be generally less lockeds and items around???

[Hiosahaf]

I am not talking only about but all items from malison egg to magmatic claymore.

But you just helped explain my point by introducing: leps.

Imagine the game without leprechaun amulets...don't you think there would be generally less lockeds and items around???

I can't imagine farming without lep and elixir kits! (Non plat user here)

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[Wutzgood]

I am not talking only about but all items from malison egg to magmatic claymore.

But you just helped explain my point by introducing: leps.

Imagine the game without leprechaun amulets...don't you think there would be generally less lockeds and items around???

Of course but before the leprechaun came out it was almost impossible to make gold. Since getting one I've had no problems making gold and I'm a shopaholic and an equipment hoarder.

[Bigboyblue]

Low end items like locks and certain eggs will decrease in price. I wouldn't think they would drop in price as low as the St. Pattys day event because those were in essence free elxirs. Everyone was running with luck on all runs. These kits will be manly used for farming locks. Too costly for most players to use for elite runs. Some richer people will buy them for elites but I think a lot of people will still use plat.

[aarrgggggg]

The gap between plat buyers and non plat buyers becomes bigger with every single day. This gap has been widening for many seasons now its nothing new.
The damage has already been done and has reached an irreversible level.

Honestly this game no longer has much to offer the new players with the current market of grossly overpriced items. Imo 100m for 1 item is a joke.
Its rather plain to see that BIG plat spenders have spent Thousands and thousands of real dollars to attain items. And they want to be compensated for their real world investment.

The problem is that new players enter this game and have no way to earn any substantial amount of gold other than by buying/using plat.

It is because of this New players will continue to decrease in number and existing players will become more and more few.

Arcane legends is a Dying game due to the irreversible impact that the select few, Huge Plat spenders have on this game and their outright greediness.

Eventually the top Merchants will have noone to sell their overpriced items to but themselves. (this is already the case)

Enjoy playing with yourselves!! (O.o)

[utpal]

The gap between plat buyers and non plat buyers becomes bigger with every single day. This gap has been widening for many seasons now its nothing new.
The damage has already been done and has reached an irreversible level.

Honestly this game no longer has much to offer the new players with the current market of grossly overpriced items. Imo 100m for 1 item is a joke.
Its rather plain to see that BIG plat spenders have spent Thousands and thousands of real dollars to attain items. And they want to be compensated for their real world investment.

The problem is that new players enter this game and have no way to earn any substantial amount of gold other than by buying/using plat.

It is because of this New players will continue to decrease in number and existing players will become more and more few.

Arcane legends is a Dying game due to the irreversible impact that the select few, Huge Plat spenders have on this game and their outright greediness.

Eventually the top Merchants will have noone to sell their overpriced items to but themselves. (this is already the case)

Enjoy playing with yourselves!! (O.o)

i disagree with u. arcane legends r growing and will be growing. about tht 100m+ item it is an arcane item. so crate openers should always hav tht upperhand as they r contributing much to the f2p game.

AL gives basic things for free such as inventory and character slots (story tokens).
even good pets. and also the teeth vendor gives such elite items free.
only one needs to spend alot time.
as money is always used to save time.

one can even get 10-20k from dailies.
there r much more things too.
and for me this is best MMO game. (thts y i quit pl and sl).

[rook storm]

The gap between plat buyers and non plat buyers becomes bigger with every single day. This gap has been widening for many seasons now its nothing new.
The damage has already been done and has reached an irreversible level.

Honestly this game no longer has much to offer the new players with the current market of grossly overpriced items. Imo 100m for 1 item is a joke.
Its rather plain to see that BIG plat spenders have spent Thousands and thousands of real dollars to attain items. And they want to be compensated for their real world investment.

The problem is that new players enter this game and have no way to earn any substantial amount of gold other than by buying/using plat.

It is because of this New players will continue to decrease in number and existing players will become more and more few.

Arcane legends is a Dying game due to the irreversible impact that the select few, Huge Plat spenders have on this game and their outright greediness.

Eventually the top Merchants will have noone to sell their overpriced items to but themselves. (this is already the case)

Enjoy playing with yourselves!! (O.o)

Well said

[Merrrrrrrked]

The gap between plat buyers and non plat buyers becomes bigger with every single day. This gap has been widening for many seasons now its nothing new.
The damage has already been done and has reached an irreversible level.

Honestly this game no longer has much to offer the new players with the current market of grossly overpriced items. Imo 100m for 1 item is a joke.
Its rather plain to see that BIG plat spenders have spent Thousands and thousands of real dollars to attain items. And they want to be compensated for their real world investment.

The problem is that new players enter this game and have no way to earn any substantial amount of gold other than by buying/using plat.

It is because of this New players will continue to decrease in number and existing players will become more and more few.

Arcane legends is a Dying game due to the irreversible impact that the select few, Huge Plat spenders have on this game and their outright greediness.

Eventually the top Merchants will have noone to sell their overpriced items to but themselves. (this is already the case)

Enjoy playing with yourselves!! (O.o)

Unfortunately, I have to agree with this. Plat spending is the basis of making money in this game. Imagine how many KM3 runs it would take to get Midas touch...

I'd honestly have preferred to had a plat free p2p game (monthly subscription) from the start with maybe a free trial to get people hooked. I've never seen a game where the basis of the economy was based on platinum. The sheer fact that an arcane ring is selling for nearly 100m (correct me if I'm wrong) is indicative of the terrible state of the economy. STG has done a good job making a game which they can profit from but i think they've lost touch with the reason people play games.

Runescape went through a similar phase of inflation years ago and their solution was quite clever. They implemented a market value price for items based on sales in the CS. The price would go up if not many were for sale and it would go down if there were too many of a specific item for sale.

The system would also let you know of this market value in trades and alert you if the person you're trading is ripping you off, or trying to scam you.

You could also track the value of items over time on Runescapes website and see graphs of the item price history. It was genius and one of the best solutions to inflation and scamming i have seen to this date.

Back to the OP, I agree that the gold drops do just add to the inflation and should be removed.

I really think that locked crates should have been removed a year ago after their first release. The net effect on the game has been negative in my opinion.

I don't expect this game to last longer than the end of this year at the rate things are going.


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[Anarchist]

Of course but before the leprechaun came out it was almost impossible to make gold. Since getting one I've had no problems making gold and I'm a shopaholic and an equipment hoarder.

So if the leprechauns makes dropping valued items Easier....
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Don't it makes sense to you the kits will make dropping valued items even more Easier?....

When things are easy to loot thier value drop. It is as simple as that.

The consequence of this is that the gap between the legendary gears and the mythic gears( which value do not drop as fast as the legendaries because not all can pop crates and lep do not apply to them) will grow fast maybe not faster than last season because there was a glitch but definately faster than a normal season without Luck kits distribution.

[falmear]

As I outlined in another thread, the part of the problem is crafting and upgrades. If people spend plat on this they except some return on their plat. Locked crates are fine because if you spend plat it doesn't mean you will get anything of value. But when people start pouring money into something they know will eventually pay off, then they expect getting as much as they can in return. This will happen with the next round of mythics. Don't be surprised to see 40m+ for fully upgraded.

[Anarchist]

As I outlined in another thread, the part of the problem is crafting and upgrades. If people spend plat on this they except some return on their plat. Locked crates are fine because if you spend plat it doesn't mean you will get anything of value. But when people start pouring money into something they know will eventually pay off, then they expect getting as much as they can in return. This will happen with the next round of mythics. Don't be surprised to see 40m+ for fully upgraded.

This is another big big problem.

[Rare]

Losing some "value" would be good for AL IMO

[Anarchist]

Losing some "value" would be good for AL IMO

Only for the mythics and arcanes...legendary gears downwards should be kept as high as possible.
Those who pop crates might not have a problem if legendary gears value drop but who doesn't yes.

As for me i can be considered a average plat player i don't pop crates, the little plats i buy all go into farming and pets and for now i am ok with the game.
The day i will notice AL has finally become P2W and i have no possibility to ever reach the best items through farming(at least not in this life ex: arcane ring) i am moving out.

[aarrgggggg]

Only for the mythics and arcanes...legendary gears downwards should be kept as high as possible.
Those who pop crates might not have a problem if legendary gears value drop but who doesn't yes.

As for me i can be considered a average plat player i don't pop crates, the little plats i buy all go into farming and pets and for now i am ok with the game.
The day i will notice AL has finally become P2W and i have no possibility to ever reach the best items through farming(at least not in this life ex: arcane ring) i am moving out.

Been there done that got the t-shirt to prove it. Play this game long enough and you will see it too. I have since moved on to other things that do not take my every waking second working towards an unattainable goal. Farm 10,000 lockeds and u can have midas touch title too.
(I think i would gouge my eyes out long before 10,000 lockeds from sheer boredom)
Although i still log from time to time to say hello to old friends and for nostalgia purposes, since i did spend 8-9 months playing this game everyday.

[Energizeric]

I think the elite magmatic items are still expensive enough to warrant farming elites. Just yesterday I got a level 40 magmatic claymore of tactics, which is obviously the worst of the 3 types of claymores, and only a level 40, and I was still able to sell for 200k within 5 hours of listing in the auction.

We will see what happens over the next few weeks, but ideally these items will hold their value until the next round of items in this new itemization plan are released. Keep in mind that these new elixirs are only worth the cost if the elite legendary items stay pricey enough. If they become devalued the way the architect items were least season, then nobody is going to buy these elixirs. Nobody is going to spend 18k per re-roll if the best item you can re-roll is only worth 80k.

[Anarchist]

Just the other day i looted a pair of lv 41 magmatic daggers of riposte worth 5k.

[falmear]

I think the elite magmatic items are still expensive enough to warrant farming elites. Just yesterday I got a level 40 magmatic claymore of tactics, which is obviously the worst of the 3 types of claymores, and only a level 40, and I was still able to sell for 200k within 5 hours of listing in the auction.

Really at 200k this is just covering pots use depending on how many times you have to run to loot one. I agree with you that farming elites right now can make decent amount of gold. But a lot of stuff is not worth that much. The only stuff thats really netting a lot is the best stuff. Everything else has dropped to a point if you are lucky is covering your pots.

[Jexetta]

@ Merked farming locked crates for midas :

At the current locked selling price of 12,000ish in auction with an approximate 11,000 profit after factoring in the auction fee you would need 9,090 locked crates to sell in the auction house.

I typically get 10 locked crates in an hour running solo or with a fast team in KM3. That's while running with a luck elixer and with a lep amulet.

So you would need to farm for 909 hours (almost 23 weeks of full time work) in order to achieve the amount of locked crates to sell for that midas touch AP.

That's not entirely the full picture though because you would need to buy luck elixers 2 per hour for the 30 minute version. I can't remember, but the 30 minute luck elixer is 4 platinum? so 8 plat per hour x 909 hours = 7,272 platinum used while farming locked crates for midas.

[Amicusdei]

There is also a scattered release of items that was mentioned in the announcement threads before the latest expansion.
It was intended to prevent "staling" of the first items released.
If that is the case, more and better loots yet to come.
Any dev care to comment?