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    Guys what we can do it that we can add two things
    1. When you flag for your team you get 1 flag. (in the flag section)
    2. When your team wins you get 5 flag points. (flag point section).
    This will be fair to the ones who have been flagging like hell. They just cant give up all their flags just for a new title or banner they wont probably use.
    This will let them keep their flags and also include the team play. People will really try to win CtF games instead of just playing as they have been doing so for the past few seasosn.
    I dont think that people will like a new Leaderboard for the "flag points" section but i think that will be necessary if this idea is implemented.

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    I agree for the team flags count. To prevent blocks I suggest proximity curse in pvp with a bigger range than in arena(big enough to prevent to be target of 2 attacks of 2 different players at the same time) and the possibility to choose in which of the 2 team spots to respawn

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    The current update is ok. Just my opinion to add. No offense.

    How about :

    Remove all the Flag AP,LB & Stat.
    *And to those who have reach 5k flag ap can get Flaggers titles and make them unique.

    Replace and add another bracket for winning/losing the CTF game. As for LB replace by "CTF Wins".

    For AP
    Example :
    Win CTF 10 times.
    " 50 Times
    " 100 Times
    " 500 Times

    For CTF Win/Lose bracket.
    Example :
    CTF
    Win : 634
    Lose : 1033

    *The PvP kill stat still counts as normal.
    *Flagging gameplay as the way it is now.
    *Maybe could build more teamwork.
    *Move as a team and clash with a flag holder with them or could make any strategies.
    *If the team fail on many clashes will result losing the game.
    *In order to win the game, they need to capture the flag 5 times.
    *Winning/Losing team will get +1 Win/Lose to their stats.
    *Leave the game before the game end +1 to lose stat.
    *Maybe there's no more "Let Red flag first then Blue flag by turn or v.versa.


    *Sorry bad English.
    Last edited by Froxanthar; 04-29-2014 at 07:03 AM.

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    -1 to this... because the ones who already flagged 10k + lost a lot of their time, while others like me (with 1.5 k flags) didn't even bother, so why to reset the ones worked few months for the flags?

    As example, would you like STS to take off all your items, gold, and to make you lvl 1 again ? And to say : " We have took your items / gold and your levels , work for them again!"

    Thanks, this is my point, take it or leave it....good luck with flagging!

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    I just don't like the New Update.....

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    I don't think this solved anything. It just made it slower to flag, ppl still line up taking turns to flag. While in theory it's sounds good, in real life nothing changed except it's slower

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    IMO, it is too late to change the Flag APs but adding this suggestion on top of the current situation isnt a bad idea. I dont think it would make things better if the devs change it. The only reasonable thing they could do is add this suggestions.

    To those who wasted their time to achieve 10K flags or even their current flag counts would disagree. Some or all probably wasted most of their time for this AP so by adding this team flag count on top of the current flag system isnt a bad idea.

    Note:
    Add the suggested team flag count only*
    Last edited by Cero; 04-29-2014 at 07:56 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Energizeric View Post

    1) Reset everyone's flag stats to zero.

    Opinions??
    I might as well quit, resetting a record without strictly justified cause is very dangerous move for STS.
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    reseting will make sts loose important players. As said before making two seperate sections for individual flags and team wins will make a win win situation. However decreasing the individual flags to 5k or so will be better.

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    Someone already have 10k flag ap... I met with 2-3 trolls in ctf, they're hid the flag and said that: "I already have this ap, why should i die?" This new pvp rule came with more blocks, gangs and more more dramas in endgame

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mucsi View Post
    Someone already have 10k flag ap... I met with 2-3 trolls in ctf, they're hid the flag and said that: "I already have this ap, why should i die?" This new pvp rule came with more blocks, gangs and more more dramas in endgame
    I agree, a new species has born now: the flag troll.

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    I have 7,1k flags. Flagging takes about 2 month. I didnt farm, run elites or smth, only flag. And now u say reset all flags. Its lil unfair.......

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    This season i started flagging now i have 6500 flags. And work to 10k ap, why i need lost my flags? Who create this post maybe have 0 flags because didn't know how hard this work.

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    Agree with lav

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    I agree with everything apart from resetting the flags to zero. I almost broke my neck trying to get that achievement and spent months flagging. A noob like me finally made the leaderboard and now suggestions to reset? It`s like I wasted my time.

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    Change ap from personal flags to team wins.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Frigglish View Post
    I agree with everything apart from resetting the flags to zero. I almost broke my neck trying to get that achievement and spent months flagging. A noob like me finally made the leaderboard and now suggestions to reset? It`s like I wasted my time.
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    I really like this idea +1

    Everyone hate flag,why? CTF isn't more fight, I just Flag and that is for a way stupid.

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    To everyone: energizeric didnt suggest to remove flag ap. Instead he said: change it into team flag ap, and this way makeit easier for new flaggers achiev this ap, same way former flaggers had it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maalice View Post
    Change ap from personal flags to team wins.
    Problem with "wins" is that there is no good way to define what a win is. What happens if my team is losing and I leave after 2 minutes and then they end up winning? What happens if I join a game and 10 seconds later my team scores the winning flag? Do I get a win?

    And "wins" means nothing unless we also keep track of losses, like kills/deaths. So then how do you define a loss? What happens if I leave the game and my team ends up losing, but I'm not there anymore when the game ends and they actually lose? Do I still get a loss? What happens if I'm disconnected and when I try to join someone has already taken my place? What happens if my team is winning when I'm disconnected and then they end up losing?

    It's just too hard and complicated to keep track of wins and losses in a game where players are constantly joining and leaving. Better to just keep track of team flags (and perhaps flags against). If you are there when the flag is scored, you get credit.

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