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    The energy system is the best works well thank you STS for the best update!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlord0520 View Post
    The energy system is the best works well thank you STS for the best update!!!
    Said no one ever.

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    nice..

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    lucky for plat users

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjrpain View Post
    Said no one ever.
    But I just said it, so that means your incorrect

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    Quote Originally Posted by Energizeric View Post
    Nobody here understands the economics of this. I suppose it's mostly kids here, so no big surprise, but the rage of people is totally unwarranted. It wouldn't matter if they said it took 20 crates to make 1 new one with 20x odds. In the end your current locked crates will still be worth the same amount on the market. The better the odds and the more expensive the materials to make the event crates are, the more expensive those event crates will be.

    And if the odds are lower for the mythic weapons, or the event locked crates are super scarce because they are so hard to craft, then the mythic weapons will be scarce and will be worth a ton, and as a result those event crates will be worth a ton.

    Remember that people pay 100k+ for an elite golden dragonscale chest for a chance at a 80m arcane shard. So people will pay big money for these event crates. So stop all the complaining. None of this planned stuff is going to affect how much your locked crates are. That is how supply and demand works. They will be worth what they are worth regardless.

    Truthfully, this idea to need to craft the event crates will probably make the regular locked crates more valuable since they are a necessary crafting component. People have a certain amount of plat to spend on opening locked, and this crafting causes the number of crates to drop by 3 times, and thus makes them more desirable.
    I agree with you 100% about those people complaining about locks. Pricing is going to go up when the event launches and they will all be happy.

    The issue that may present itself is the crafting process. Depending on the quantity of essences required it may prove to be a tough feat for anyone not playing hours and hours each day to make a descent amount. I was personally hoping to open around 100 locks during the event. Time will tell if I will be able to craft that many.

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    I hate games for only rich people. Sts you are sucks. If want adding more options for only rich people, You should know that all players (not rich) will out the game. Arcane Legends is going down, because it's also boring for non rich players.. doing elite etc. Boring.. Need something special, special event (open locked crates for free(0plats) or drop mythic/arcane things (egg, weapons etc. on elite not just from crates -.- )
    It's all, Thank You..
    Sorry for my English ..

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    Yay

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    When is the update ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by termi330 View Post
    I hate games for only rich people. Sts you are sucks. If want adding more options for only rich people, You should know that all players (not rich) will out the game. Arcane Legends is going down, because it's also boring for non rich players.. doing elite etc. Boring.. Need something special, special event (open locked crates for free(0plats) or drop mythic/arcane things (egg, weapons etc. on elite not just from crates -.- )
    It's all, Thank You..
    Sorry for my English ..
    STS are NOT sucks if you don't like the game leave then no need to insult.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legendproject View Post
    STS are NOT sucks if you don't like the game leave then no need to insult.
    I just saying true..

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    Quote Originally Posted by termi330 View Post
    I hate games for only rich people. Sts you are sucks. If want adding more options for only rich people, You should know that all players (not rich) will out the game. Arcane Legends is going down, because it's also boring for non rich players.. doing elite etc. Boring.. Need something special, special event (open locked crates for free(0plats) or drop mythic/arcane things (egg, weapons etc. on elite not just from crates -.- )
    It's all, Thank You..
    Sorry for my English ..
    If u dont have any something nice words...don't try to say that...
    Anyway, u must see the event first (see the event begins to released) before commenting the event when u read those event's details.
    Patience is the key, imagine if u commenting so bad but after the event released, the event is very good, right? Am I correct?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeusblade View Post
    If u dont have any something nice words...don't try to say that...
    Anyway, u must see the event first (see the event begins to released) before commenting the event when u read those event's details.
    Patience is the key, imagine if u commenting so bad but after the event released, the event is very good, right? Am I correct?
    I saying about all the game

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    Quote Originally Posted by Energizeric View Post
    Nobody here understands the economics of this. I suppose it's mostly kids here, so no big surprise, but the rage of people is totally unwarranted. It wouldn't matter if they said it took 20 crates to make 1 new one with 20x odds. In the end your current locked crates will still be worth the same amount on the market. The better the odds and the more expensive the materials to make the event crates are, the more expensive those event crates will be.

    And if the odds are lower for the mythic weapons, or the event locked crates are super scarce because they are so hard to craft, then the mythic weapons will be scarce and will be worth a ton, and as a result those event crates will be worth a ton.

    Remember that people pay 100k+ for an elite golden dragonscale chest for a chance at a 80m arcane shard. So people will pay big money for these event crates. So stop all the complaining. None of this planned stuff is going to affect how much your locked crates are. That is how supply and demand works. They will be worth what they are worth regardless.

    Truthfully, this idea to need to craft the event crates will probably make the regular locked crates more valuable since they are a necessary crafting component. People have a certain amount of plat to spend on opening locked, and this crafting causes the number of crates to drop by 3 times, and thus makes them more desirable.
    Casinos are required by law to publish a break down of their revenue from different sources. Higher denominations slot machines (quarter-fifty cents- dollar) have a better return for the player but penny slots have 3 times the drop rate (amount the players spend). The reason for this is not because they are stupid but because they understand both odds AND variance. Variance is what keeps smart players from betting too high a percentage of their bankroll on a single spin due to the increased risk of ruin. High odds are great, big payouts are fantastic, but if you get knocked off the table after two rolls none of that matters.
    My point? Stop assuming people who understand these crates a whole lot more then you are uneducated children, and stop thinking all other players with a whole lot more gold then you 'inherited' it and didn't perhaps get it because they actually understand and adapt to the economy instead of whining for change every time they run into an obstacle.

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    All People may be happy, as long as the new crates also can be crafted with recepies and essences when the event is over. Good Job STS.

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    Lightbulb I think it's a whole lot more whining when your not a paying customer...

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigboyblue View Post
    The issue that may present itself is the crafting process. Depending on the quantity of essences required it may prove to be a tough feat for anyone not playing hours and hours each day to make a descent amount. I was personally hoping to open around 100 locks during the event. Time will tell if I will be able to craft that many.
    Bingo... some of us have jobs and have to go to work to earn real money that's spent supporting the game... paying people salaries. Since we are the paying customers I would think it's probably our right to have a say in how the product is presented...
    Quote Originally Posted by FluffNStuff View Post
    Casinos are required by law to publish a break down of their revenue from different sources. Higher denominations slot machines (quarter-fifty cents- dollar) have a better return for the player but penny slots have 3 times the drop rate (amount the players spend). The reason for this is not because they are stupid but because they understand both odds AND variance. Variance is what keeps smart players from betting too high a percentage of their bankroll on a single spin due to the increased risk of ruin. High odds are great, big payouts are fantastic, but if you get knocked off the table after two rolls none of that matters.
    My point? Stop assuming people who understand these crates a whole lot more then you are uneducated children, and stop thinking all other players with a whole lot more gold then you 'inherited' it and didn't perhaps get it because they actually understand and adapt to the economy instead of whining for change every time they run into an obstacle.
    Props for this Fluff... I couldn't have said it better myself if I tried :^} Also coming from you this means a lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pfurz View Post
    All People may be happy, as long as the new crates also can be crafted with recepies and essences when the event is over. Good Job STS.
    Something to do! Now non plat players can only farms eggs and more importantly Locked elites is not worth at ol we need something to do and having profit for this now i can farm (km3 + mali + snag/wrath) and maybe i buy Arcane Maul hmm when AL will be releasing lvl cap 50/60lv + that's not funny Pay Items must be Farm able! Sts says Arcane it's really hard to get and worth ok fine i love that so delete lockeds and add Arcane items to boss thats is fun when you get items hard to get frome boss elixirs will be sell like massive (when you delete kit) 2 options is delete old items from craters and add to boss drop like hooks staffes mythic eggs all oldest in locked will be news stuff for actual cap lvl or something like that.

    Non plat player's spending here 8/12hrs a day and they get nothing (PvP-people having top gear are immortal, Pve - Farming is not effective so they leave, What non plat player do speaking ol day in guild chat helping others and waiting for one more stupid pay to win patch to sell his locked craters and get one two milion noting else when top gear this sezon or old sezon! Is worth a lot more of that.
    Now i delete my main character and start playing non death just for fun... Unbelievable. Just my 2 cents

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    Quote Originally Posted by notfaded1 View Post
    Bingo... some of us have jobs and have to go to work to earn real money that's spent supporting the game... paying people salaries. Since we are the paying customers I would think it's probably our right to have a say in how the product is presented...

    Props for this Fluff... I couldn't have said it better myself if I tried :^} Also coming from you this means a lot.
    well, I work but i dont pay to play this game but since i contribute to helping out somewhat shouldent people like me who play the game and have been playing since day 1 release of all legends games have a say in something

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus View Post
    You get 3 free energies per 8 hours, not including the ones you loot (per character). So, if you have 5 characters, that is around sixty free runs per day (assuming that you do not loot any energy balls).

    So, please tell me, how is this a bad thing? Free players can still enjoy the event completely for free, but if they want to participate on the leaderboards, they will need to spend some gold.

    The double odds crates would curb the amount of crates that platinum users would open. Isn't that a good thing? Or, perhaps, when free users finally loot one out of a spirit chest, they want it to be worthless due to the crazy amount of locked crates platinum users spent. Maybe I'm just not seeing it but I see the system as granting double odds to platinum users at a higher cost of platinum for them per crate.


    Zeus is an example of a player who made this event. He even knows what 8 hours was given 1 energy and not 3.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Warlord0520 View Post
    well, I work but i dont pay to play this game but since i contribute to helping out somewhat shouldent people like me who play the game and have been playing since day 1 release of all legends games have a say in something
    notfaded is not saying that non-plat players should not have any advantages.

    The real issue is that mythics went from being originally available in existing crates, to being removed and only available to special event crates and double odds locked crates that require time and essences that must be farmed in order to craft them. Now instead of players being open 1000+ crates at their hearts desire, they'll be limited by the amount of gold and time they have to open crates (yes, this is a bad thing)

    In the Tarlok event there was no requirement for essences to craft chests, and they were bound to your toon. This is more than sufficient to control the market. throw in the layer of energy requirements to even farm the event consistently and you start to see why people are getting upset over this event being a pay to play (not even pay to win).

    Since we have no idea if essences will drop anywhere in arlor or just inside the event map(s), it could be a major fail, or a passable fail.

    I hope for Our sakes, and STS's that they get it right.
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