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    I'd like to know your opinions about Glacian vs HJ.
    The toon I will be using is a level 15 rogue.

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    Glacian.

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    Tbh its a personal preference, glacian gives 3 more crit and its passive rather than being part of the arcane ability, and his AA gives 10 percent armor but thats only like 50 armor, also he has a much longer cd than hj i believe its 40 seconds and hammerjaw is 22 seconds. But hammerjaw has the passive dmg which is strong in tdm. As of now i think glacian is slightly better but if sts ever fixes the roge pet dmg % which i think they are planning too then that would make hammerjaw better. Either one will be excellent and make u a lot stronger

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    Dova bear. I'm serious.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kakashis View Post
    Dova bear. I'm serious.

    Really? Dovabear....

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    HJ is overall better for rouges bevause it gives the dmg and crit to help you out.

    Glacian is overall better for supports because it gives a crazy HP boost.

    HJ - Rouges

    Samael - Mages

    Glacian - Tanks


    Plus if you ever run timed 2 HJ's will be secure for the buff for the entire run if you time it..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soundlesskill View Post
    HJ is overall better for rouges bevause it gives the dmg and crit to help you out.

    Glacian is overall better for supports because it gives a crazy HP boost.

    HJ - Rouges

    Samael - Mages

    Glacian - Tanks


    Plus if you ever run timed 2 HJ's will be secure for the buff for the entire run if you time it..
    Number one: glacian and hj give pretty much same health once both AA's are activated.
    Number two: hes talking about pvp not pve so timed runs are irrelevant

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrowz View Post
    Number one: glacian and hj give pretty much same health once both AA's are activated.
    Number two: hes talking about pvp not pve so timed runs are irrelevant
    HJ gives crit, crit wins game on rouge. But Singe is etter for rouge anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soundlesskill View Post
    HJ gives crit, crit wins game on rouge. But Singe is etter for rouge anyway.
    Actually Singe don't have crit, only damage. So the important happiness bonus is the primary stat and the STR, DEX, and INT.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soundlesskill View Post
    HJ gives crit, crit wins game on rouge. But Singe is etter for rouge anyway.
    I dont see the point ur trying to make given that glacian gives more crit than hj

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrowz View Post
    I dont see the point ur trying to make given that glacian gives more crit than hj
    Lmao, it's called personaly preference.

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    Lvl 15 - who crits 1st wins.
    Glacian would be my choice.

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    Samael - all classes - he is a god of all pets. If u disagree u dont own one or sam that u own is not 41lvl.

    Hammerjaw - fits rogue and mage the best. Awesome cooldown! High dmg output and crit.

    Glacian - IMO is only good for worriors, but only if u want to tank even more. I get about 3.7k armor with bulwark proc and other buffs, otherwise hammerjaw is a better choice. Glacian arcane buff is almost unnoticeable for mage and rogue, unless u run with daggers and have high armor in range of 2k.

    Someone has brought up dovabear earlier. If that pet had different arcane ability it would be insane indeed. ^_^

    You also need to understand that it all depends on ur basic stats. If u have only 400dmg u may preffer flat 10% ctit rather than 40dmg and 5%ctit. Yet, if ur dmg output is 800 u get insane 80dmg extra and 5‰ctit instead of flat 10%crit.

    Therefore, Glacian may be preferable by players with average stats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by grzena1982 View Post
    Samael - all classes - he is a god of all pets. If u disagree u dont own one or sam that u own is not 41lvl.

    Hammerjaw - fits rogue and mage the best. Awesome cooldown! High dmg output and crit.

    Glacian - IMO is only good for worriors, but only if u want to tank even more. I get about 3.7k armor with bulwark proc and other buffs, otherwise hammerjaw is a better choice. Glacian arcane buff is almost unnoticeable for mage and rogue, unless u run with daggers and have high armor in range of 2k.

    Someone has brought up dovabear earlier. If that pet had different arcane ability it would be insane indeed. ^_^

    You also need to understand that it all depends on ur basic stats. If u have only 400dmg u may preffer flat 10% ctit rather than 40dmg and 5%ctit. Yet, if ur dmg output is 800 u get insane 80dmg extra and 5‰ctit instead of flat 10%crit.

    Therefore, Glacian may be preferable by players with average stats.
    What part of lvl 15 rogue did u misunderstand?

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    Its silly to assume i was responding directly to you rather than writing in general.

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    Glacian is awesome for endgame rogues. For a twink? I dont know. But it still better than Hj

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    HJ > 5% crit ability about 15 sec CD
    Glac >10% crit bonus ability CD is 25 sec

    dmg % bonus is non-existent in ctf, but the high CD of hj for ability is enough to soak up crit dmg from glacian.

    IMO they are both and on par for rogues.

    by tier:

    tier 1 arcane pets: HJ, Glacian
    tier 2 arcane pets: Singe, Whim
    tier 3 arcane pets: Samael, Shady and Surge

    But of course you wont VS your entire AL PVP career gawd that;ll be boring. When you find a competitive guild chances are they will talk about combo and synergy for group and guild clashes, during clash does HJ stands out with a 15 sec cd of ability its a good buffer pet.

    Overall ill choose HJ anytime, or tier 3 arcane pets
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    Quote Originally Posted by grzena1982 View Post
    Its silly to assume i was responding directly to you rather than writing in general.
    I guess u didnt read the OP

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    Quote Originally Posted by SacredKnight View Post
    Really? Dovabear....
    If you know, how to use dovabear wisely, it's one of the best pet for a twink. That low panic chance on AA doesnt makes this pet bad like everyone say. This pet got a singe-stats with and awesome mana regen that helps a lot in twink-not talking about endgame.
    My personal experience- I've beaten lot of Lvl 10 and Lvl 15 Glacian-Hammerjaw rogues using dovabear. So pet doesnt matters a lot as dovabear got cool passive abilities-10% armour reduction, 10% crit and damage reduction at level 15. That helps a lot during 1v1.

    On topic- If it's Lvl 15 rogue, I would suggest you not to waste gold on these arcane pets, as kakashis said, dovabear is the best. And if you really want to buy an arcane pet, close your eyes and go for Glacian.

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    I'd suggest you glacian, why? Because I prefer crit over damage as a rogue twink
    Also this pet is a bit tank based, so if u don't want to die fast in wars, this pet is ideal

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