Some thoughts about Nekro

[Energizeric]

I noticed there are going to be a ton of crafting components that go into crafting a Nekro egg....

When the arcane ring was first announced, it was stated that the recipe would not be tradable. Many players, myself included, asked for this to be changed so that poor players could grind to get the recipe and then sell it for a good amount of gold to someone who had the shard. STS listened to us and instead changed things by creating the dragonite bar, which could be traded.

As a result of making the dragonite bar tradable, the arcane ring's price has continued to rise. Many of you may not see the connection, so here is why....

Merchants have basically controlled the market on arcane rings. A few of them have crafted many rings and sold them for big profits. When the first arcane shards were looted, they sold for 40-55m. As time has gone on, that price keeps rising and is now approaching 100m. On the other hand, the dragonite bar's price has continued to fall and is now lower than 1m. If the dragonite bar had not been tradable, merchants would not be able to craft multiple rings, and thus the arcane shards would stay on the market longer, and would most likely sell at more reasonable prices.

So my proposal is that some of the Nekro crafting components should NOT be tradable. In fact, whichever of them are the ones that require some really long grind to get, those should be not tradable. The ones that can simply be looted from mobs or bosses -- those SHOULD be tradable. This will keep everyone interested in farming for those items that can be sold, while keeping the merchants from being able to craft tons of eggs unless they grind for it. Overall, I think this should keep the prices of the Singe Egg, which is the main component, somewhat steady. It would be a shame if in a few months Singe eggs were 100m.


Lastly, I want to add that while I like the idea of crafting a "premium" arcane pet, I just hope that this quest is as difficult to complete as this pet is OP --- meaning we should NOT see dozens of people running around with Nekro a week after he is released. It should take a very long time to complete this quest, and this pet should stay super rare for a really long time. This should also somewhat satisfy those with Shady & Surge, as they deserve to have the best pet in the game for a decent amount of time.

[SacredKnight]

STS should eliminate the requirement for the Singe egg all together and replace it with a non trade able item e.g. Fossilized Egg
This can be purchased from the dragkin token vendor for 250 dragkin teeth.

[Energizeric]

STS should eliminate the requirement for the Singe egg all together and replace it with a non trade able item e.g. Fossilized Egg
This can be purchased from the dragkin token vendor for 250 dragkin teeth.

I wouldn't be opposed to that, but maybe 250 is not enough. Maybe 500?

I just want this to be really really hard to do.

How about it can be a Singe Egg or this other purchasable egg? That would work.

[Ninjasmurf]

So bassicly anyone that gets 500 teeth and complete a quest will own the best arcane pet in the game? Does that make sense? Lol

Everyone in the game would have this pet then and it wouldn't be considered arcane. Think about that..

[Energizeric]

So bassicly anyone that gets 500 teeth and complete a quest will own the best arcane pet in the game? Does that make sense? Lol

Everyone in the game would have this pet then and it wouldn't be considered arcane. Think about that..

I think you underestimate how hard it is to get 500 teeth. From the time the most recent expansion was released up until the Ursoth's Assault event, I made it a priority to run the easiest tindirin dungeon at least 10 times every day. It would usually take about an hour, and was the first thing I did every day when I signed in. I did that for 3-4 months. I currently have 172 teeth.

500 teeth would take multiple hours per day for a few months. So yes, I think if someone spends that kind of time, they deserve it. Personally, I think it would be easier to just farm elite legendary weapons, sell them, and then buy a singe egg.

There should be a way for someone to acquire this pet without opening locked crates.

Back when locked crates were first released, most players were very angry that the best item would be exclusively available to those who spend plat. Now it seems like any suggestion that a good item will be available without plat is frowned upon.

It has become quite obvious of the shift of the player base over time. In seasons 1-3, the elite players were the grinders and hard workers who came over from Pocket Legends and the other legends games. But those players have mostly quit at this point, and now the elite players are the ones who buy everything with real money and don't want to grind for anything. That is most unfortunate IMO. I may soon join the others by leaving this game if this trend continues.

[obee]

So bassicly anyone that gets 500 teeth and complete a quest will own the best arcane pet in the game? Does that make sense? Lol

Everyone in the game would have this pet then and it wouldn't be considered arcane. Think about that..

Sts needs to make a way to get something big without opening locks! It's annoying seeing every good thing come in locks lol

[Ninjasmurf]

I think you underestimate how hard it is to get 500 teeth. From the time the most recent expansion was released up until the Ursoth's Assault event, I made it a priority to run the easiest tindirin dungeon at least 10 times every day. It would usually take about an hour, and was the first thing I did every day when I signed in. I did that for 3-4 months. I currently have 172 teeth.

500 teeth would take multiple hours per day for a few months. So yes, I think if someone spends that kind of time, they deserve it. Personally, I think it would be easier to just farm elite legendary weapons, sell them, and then buy a singe egg.

There should be a way for someone to acquire this pet without opening locked crates.

Back when locked crates were first released, most players were very angry that the best item would be exclusively available to those who spend plat. Now it seems like any suggestion that a good item will be available without plat is frowned upon.

It has become quite obvious of the shift of the player base over time. In seasons 1-3, the elite players were the grinders and hard workers who came over from Pocket Legends and the other legends games. But those players have mostly quit at this point, and now the elite players are the ones who buy everything with real money and don't want to grind for anything. That is most unfortunate IMO. I may soon join the others by leaving this game if this trend continues.

I'm not a plat buyer myself but as a mercher I know how this would affect the market.
I like this idea but don't try to get it implemented to arcanes. Arcanes aren't meant to be farmed by anyone.

If 500 teeth could get you an item used to craft a legendary pet I would support it. Arcanes just aren't meant for everyone because that would make them commons..

[Zylx]

Sts needs to make a way to get something big without opening locks! It's annoying seeing every good thing come in locks lol

Last i checked, the items looted in elite maps are better than the items in the crates. Same with the Ursoth Event items (the tree stuff)

[obee]

Last i checked, the items looted in elite maps are better than the items in the crates. Same with the Ursoth Event items (the tree stuff)

Well yea that is true but I mean like arcane items and stuff

[Visiting]

Put singe in Elite Gold chests (Shuyal/Tindrin), this would encourage farming, make it not reliant on crates, more fun for all types of players.

[Ninjasmurf]

Sts needs to make a way to get something big without opening locks! It's annoying seeing every good thing come in locks lol

Yep they just did this with dovabear

[obee]

Yep they just did this with dovabear

Well yea

[Ninjasmurf]

Put singe in Elite Gold chests (Shuyal/Tindrin), this would encourage farming, make it not reliant on crates, more fun for all types of players.

Arcane pets should have been in their season's elite crates from the beginning, not just singe

[Energizeric]

Last i checked, the items looted in elite maps are better than the items in the crates. Same with the Ursoth Event items (the tree stuff)

Arcane and mythic items come in crates. What is better than those that drop from elite maps?

[inkredible]

I think you underestimate how hard it is to get 500 teeth.

500 teeth..... Lol that will encourage macro users to macro normal maps really
im sure there will be an ingredient that wont be easy to get , thats an idea to keep it challenging for sure but 500 is ridiculously high

STS should eliminate the requirement for the Singe egg all together and replace it with a non trade able item e.g. Fossilized Egg
This can be purchased from the dragkin token vendor for 250 dragkin teeth.

as for singe... taking it out will defeat the purpose of "arcane pet" and defeat the purpose of crafting an "arcane whelp" (since singe is a whelp)

[Energizeric]

Yep they just did this with dovabear

Dovabear was easy to get and required about 15 minutes per day for 2 weeks to get. So that is why they are so common. If you make the quest harder, then fewer people will complete it, and if you make it a very difficult grind, then very few will complete it.

All of these ideas were previously tried in Pocket Legends and they worked well. They had the ichor quest there, which when completed awarded the player with an elite weapon which was the best weapon in the game at the time. Very few players were able to complete that quest, and the elite weapons are so rare that when I logged into PL a couple of months ago and equipped my axe, I kept getting PMs asking what weapon it was as nobody had ever seen one.

[Energizeric]

as for singe... taking it out will defeat the purpose of "arcane pet" and defeat the purpose of crafting an "arcane whelp" (since singe is a whelp)

Fair enough! I just hope they make the quest hard enough so that it's worth doing....

Right now an arcane ring is worth about 100m, and the shard is worth 99% of that, while the dragonite bar (the piece that you "grind" for) is worth crap. I would hate to see the Nekro egg turn out the same way. They need to plan this item in such a way so that the singe egg is only a small part of the total value of the Nekro egg, and the other components keep their value as a significant part of the value of the egg. The way you do that is by making those items very hard to obtain.

[Zylx]

Last i checked, the items looted in elite maps are better than the items in the crates. Same with the Ursoth Event items (the tree stuff)

Arcane and mythic items come in crates. What is better than those that drop from elite maps?

I was referring to the legendary items. You know. The items that are more affordable to more players than the Arcane/Mythic items...

[inkredible]

Put singe in Elite Gold chests (Shuyal/Tindrin), this would encourage farming, make it not reliant on crates, more fun for all types of players.

did anyone ever tell you the if you put your dog in a closed chest, they will die?!!!

thats why youll never find them in chests! but crates COULD have small holes for oxygen to come in

[Visiting]

Arcane pets should have been in their season's elite crates from the beginning, not just singe

Ok make a special crate during this "Nekro" event, let it be lootable from only elite Algaran and Rendtail, and put Singe in these with an arcane drop rate?