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    if i could choose, arcane ring def> SnS, especialy u got sammy to choose from too!
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    Its way too op in clash...


    Also, the pools are still in effect even if the user is stunned, so thats the upside.
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    its op in clashes, i personally think this pet is meant for pve and clash
    three stack of damage pools (without healing ) can get a warrior with arcane ring down to 10% or even to his death

    samael however is great for both pve and any pvp ..clash ..1v1..
    it may come down to someones preferals.. since i am more of a clash type of guy i considered opening SnS but i decided to sell it because overall i think samael is better
    and plus everyone yelled at me to not open it lmao

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    Quote Originally Posted by grzena1982 View Post
    Exactly my own thoughts. Its worth to say that when it comes to raw stats s&s wins, but taking all factors into condideration the pet is no match for deadly Sam.

    I was also able to test the pools and they truely dont last that long. Smth i could hardly reach one before they disappear. Its hard to say though what the effect is on 41lvl. If they heal u for 50-100% of health rather then a small portion, then i would need to have one. For now the arcane ability visually looks cool, but its useless.
    It heals you for 100% of health in end game if you stay in them long enough.
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    Samael does not need to be the best in every category. It still is the best in a majority of the categories. Really, what is the big deal if SnS beats it in some categories?

    Please don't nerf a pet that players have spent 3 weeks or more running for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zeus View Post
    It heals you for 100% of health in end game if you stay in them long enough.
    My level 10 SnS must be nerfed, caused it doesn't heal but..5%, hoesntly I opened it on accident and would like it re-egged :'(, the crit is less than glacian's, idk why, the dmg could be better from the pools. Hp regen could be switched to mana regen, im not even sure if the +40 primary stayz true cause i feel weak on that thing. Re-egg me please v.v twas an accident and would like samuel >_>

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    How the f did it reach arcane ring price, too many rich people @secret they wont re-egged it if its higher than level 1 especially an egg with 100m price tag.
    I wouldve sell it if it was me, someone on Kronos got 2 shady egg and "will sell while the price is hot". Whatever your decision just stand firm on it, regret will just cause you despair lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Madxnoob View Post
    My level 10 SnS must be nerfed, caused it doesn't heal but..5%, hoesntly I opened it on accident and would like it re-egged :'(, the crit is less than glacian's, idk why, the dmg could be better from the pools. Hp regen could be switched to mana regen, im not even sure if the +40 primary stayz true cause i feel weak on that thing. Re-egg me please v.v twas an accident and would like samuel >_>
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    Thanks for reminding me, not like I knew re-egging was possible or I wouldnt of leveled, but thats between me & sts. If I have to keep it, ill just consider it a trophy and use it to put disco lights out for people. >_>

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    dovabear better heheh

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    Quote Originally Posted by inkredible View Post
    its op in clashes, i personally think this pet is meant for pve and clash
    three stack of damage pools (without healing ) can get a warrior with arcane ring down to 10% or even to his death

    samael however is great for both pve and any pvp ..clash ..1v1..
    it may come down to someones preferals.. since i am more of a clash type of guy i considered opening SnS but i decided to sell it because overall i think samael is better
    and plus everyone yelled at me to not open it lmao
    Its not so op as people think, yes it can 'wipe out' you if you stand in stacked pools without jugg, horn, shield on, but in a real situation never happens. Its just another dot in the clash, but a very strong one, while a well timed samael arcane ability(or lucky passive terrify), gun proc, or maul proc can win the battle.

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    imo samael is better in a lot of things...but thats just me
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    peoples opinion will change in time, anything that has a lot of surface area like tdm.. pve.. sns is not good with, i changed my mind about pve
    sns is good for arena , ctf, thats about it

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    Lol wasted s&s.
    Close this thread. Hahaha
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    Honestly, i can hardly imagine a better pet than samael. Some pets got crazy stats, some pet abilites seems very op, but the end samael always wins.

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