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    Default What is the best Rogue bow?

    I am level 21.
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    Personally i love lurid but all depends of what lacking in stat and strategy
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    IMO gloom/lurid/sinister if you can afford the mana loss. (These bows aren't available in "of potency" versions.


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    Quote Originally Posted by UndeadJudge View Post
    IMO gloom/lurid/sinister if you can afford the mana loss. (These bows aren't available in "of potency" versions.


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    this all day. or crit build shipmaster if u have max gear, 1 combo ppl with that crit

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    Thanks for the responses, really appreciate it

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    under lvl 36 devourer pot/brut & from 37 to 41 recurve pot/brut.

    Take pot if u need intel & brut to get hp's if u have enough intel...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkh View Post
    under lvl 36 devourer pot/brut & from 37 to 41 recurve pot/brut.

    Take pot if u need intel & brut to get hp's if u have enough intel...
    devour if u just want like 1 more dmg than other bow with no crit, and no real proc. I see dev as bad imo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Saribeau View Post
    devour if u just want like 1 more dmg than other bow with no crit, and no real proc. I see dev as bad imo
    Lurid gives slightly more damage.


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    Quote Originally Posted by UndeadJudge View Post
    Lurid gives slightly more damage.

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    devour if u just want like 1 more dmg than other bow with no crit, and no real proc. I see dev as bad imo
    There is no lurid over lvl 18 market

    so :

    Devourer pot lvl 18 59.2 DPS 23 DEX 12 INT chance to proc additionnal damages
    Recurve pot lvl 18 58.4 DPS 20 DEX 10 INT chance to proc weakening every 2 sec for 8 sec
    Lurid brut lvl 18 57.7 DPS 21 DEX 11 STR chance to proc +5% crit on nearby allies & chance on arcane patch

    as i said, devourer best stats, DPS, DEX & 2nd stats... get a chance to proc +5% crit chance statistically useless in my opinion...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkh View Post
    There is no lurid over lvl 18 market

    so :

    Devourer pot lvl 18 59.2 DPS 23 DEX 12 INT chance to proc additionnal damages
    Recurve pot lvl 18 58.4 DPS 20 DEX 10 INT chance to proc weakening every 2 sec for 8 sec
    Lurid brut lvl 18 57.7 DPS 21 DEX 11 STR chance to proc +5% crit on nearby allies & chance on arcane patch

    as i said, devourer best stats, DPS, DEX & 2nd stats... get a chance to proc +5% crit chance statistically useless in my opinion...
    Would you mind to only post in areas that you are aware of the subject please? It would save these twinks from getting false information.

    Anyway, im pretty sure 2 dex and 1 secondary stat is "statistically useless" as well. Do you even know what the arcane patch proc does? It occasionally puts a dark ring where the player is, slowing everyone that has touched it. It's an extremely powerful slow, like Shiloh's.


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    Quote Originally Posted by UndeadJudge View Post
    Would you mind to only post in areas that you are aware of the subject please? It would save these twinks from getting false information.

    Anyway, im pretty sure 2 dex and 1 secondary stat is "statistically useless" as well. Do you even know what the arcane patch proc does? It occasionally puts a dark ring where the player is, slowing everyone that has touched it. It's an extremely powerful slow, like Shiloh's.


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    You're the guy who speak about a bow unavailable lvl 21 troll... I compare lvl 18 because yesterday there was no lurid over lvl 18 market.

    "It occasionally" u base your fight stats on occasionally ? what is the % chance of it newbie ?

    So a devourer lvl 21 Have PERMANENTLY better DPS, dex & 2nd stat than an unavailable lurid 21 & far better than a lurid lvl 18.

    & "occasionnally" improved damages...

    Reliable builds are based on reliable known stats. DEX & DPS are.
    u don't know exactly chance of u don't know exactly what for u don't know exactly how many time is not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkh View Post
    You're the guy who speak about a bow unavailable lvl 21 troll... I compare lvl 18 because yesterday there was no lurid over lvl 18 market.

    "It occasionally" u base your fight stats on occasionally ? what is the % chance of it newbie ?

    So a devourer lvl 21 Have PERMANENTLY better DPS, dex & 2nd stat than an unavailable lurid 21 & far better than a lurid lvl 18.

    & "occasionnally" improved damages...

    Reliable builds are based on reliable known stats. DEX & DPS are.
    u don't know exactly chance of u don't know exactly what for u don't know exactly how many time is not.

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    Uh dude you know the sinister bows were available until 31 (or 36 can't remember)...they were purchasable from a platinum chest like the tiki gear etc and scale by whatever level you were at when you bought them. Also, DPS doesn't really matter as a rogue (except in pve). The sinister bows give slightly less DPS, but slightly higher damage. And the proc is amazing in clashes.

    I have no idea why you are making an argument about level 21 bows, it makes absolutely no sense.

    Anyway @ OP, just get a lurid if you're a clash person or a shipmaster if you're the crit kind of guy. Devourers are too mainstream these days,


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    Quote Originally Posted by UndeadJudge View Post
    Uh dude you know the sinister bows were available until 31 (or 36 can't remember)...they were purchasable from a platinum chest like the tiki gear etc and scale by whatever level you were at when you bought them. Also, DPS doesn't really matter as a rogue (except in pve). The sinister bows give slightly less DPS, but slightly higher damage. And the proc is amazing in clashes.

    I have no idea why you are making an argument about level 21 bows, it makes absolutely no sense.

    Anyway @ OP, just get a lurid if you're a clash person or a shipmaster if you're the crit kind of guy. Devourers are too mainstream these days,


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    The guy who ask best bow is lvl 21.

    "DPS doesn't really matter as a rogue" it does

    & devourer bring more skills dmg than lurid or sinister...

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    The guy asked for the best bow and his level 21. Doesn't mean that the bow his asking is only limited to that level, anyway to answer the question.

    The best bow for rogue so far is:
    Elondrian Warfare Recurve of Potency
    Req: Level 41, Rogue
    150.4 DPS, 54 DEX, 29 INT Chance on charged attack to create Elondrian brush, which heals allies and damage nearby enemies.
    DEX +6
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkh View Post
    The guy who ask best bow is lvl 21.

    "DPS doesn't really matter as a rogue" it does

    & devourer bring more skills dmg than lurid or sinister...
    Well I don't really see anyone taking advice from the guy with a 1:2 kdr lol. And 3 dps isn't noticeable at all...that's like 1 damage on autos.

    The skill damage is higher with sinister anyway...

    Seriously please don't give out false info. I've been playing rogue pvp for 2 years, I'm pretty sure I know what I'm talking about.


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    Y, kinzmet, the best bow is by far mythic elondrian lvl 41...

    When the guy who ask post to precise he's lvl 21, it seems logical to think it's because he want lvl 21 best bow...


    Quote Originally Posted by UndeadJudge View Post
    Well I don't really see anyone taking advice from the guy with a 1:2 kdr lol. And 3 dps isn't noticeable at all...that's like 1 damage on autos.

    The skill damage is higher with sinister anyway...

    Seriously please don't give out false info. I've been playing rogue pvp for 2 years, I'm pretty sure I know what I'm talking about.


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    Sure... focus KDR on CAPTURE THE FLAG... Post a sshot of your CDR ratio in CTF troll, just for laughing...
    KILLS are the goal to win the game in DTM, not in CTF kid... U can lose CTF game with 100 kills & no death...
    KDR count in CTF only since Spacetime decided to count KDR as CDR for CTF in guild ranking calcul... Most of my PVP stats were before that...

    Concerning bow, we will imagine proc chance is 20%, it's more than reality but it's easier to understand proc occurency impact :

    LVL 30 sinister : 92.7 DPS 17 STR 33 DEX chance to proc +5% crit & arcane patch
    my stats with it : 543 dex 400.7 DMG 475.8 DPS

    Sinister will bring 20% proc chance to have 5% crit chance so it improve crit chance by 1%... (0.2*0.5=0.01) So it bring 1 more crit every 100 hits.
    & 20% chance to have the slowing arcane patch... So 1 slowing every 5 hits.

    LVL 30 Devourer : 94.6 DPS 18 INT 35 DEX chance to proc to improved damages
    my stats with it : 545 dex 398.4 DMG 478 DPS

    If u have 25% crit chance like me & if chance to proc is 20%, devourer bring 20 % imrpoved damages including 5% improved crit (0.25*0.2=0.05) So 1 improved crit every 20 hits

    So with a 20% proc chance :

    with sinister u win 2.3 DMG skills & u lose 2.2 DPS... , 1 slowing hit every 5 hits & 1 more crit hit every 100 hits
    with devourer u win 2.2 DPS & u lose 2.3 DMG skills..., 1 improved damage every 5 hits including 1 improved crit every 20 hits.

    Thoses bows are almost equals. Arcane patch hurt but improved damages on crit hurts too... & u was speaking about lurid, no sinister...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkh View Post
    Y, kinzmet, the best bow is by far mythic elondrian lvl 41...

    When the guy who ask post to precise he's lvl 21, it seems logical to think it's because he want lvl 21 best bow...
    I clearly stated the premise of my argument. The guy asked about what is the best bow, then stated his level 21. Never he mentioned it was for twinking PVP or PVE.
    You see this is how you understood his question >>> What is the best bow for level 21?.
    Now this is how I understood his question >>>>>>> What is the best bow? I'm still at level 21.
    If you would say its logical, then we wouldn't even need to have a different point of view.


    And may I add, you also thought the same thing with this post of yours
    Quote Originally Posted by Arkh View Post
    under lvl 36 devourer pot/brut & from 37 to 41 recurve pot/brut.

    Take pot if u need intel & brut to get hp's if u have enough intel...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkh View Post
    Y, kinzmet, the best bow is by far mythic elondrian lvl 41...

    When the guy who ask post to precise he's lvl 21, it seems logical to think it's because he want lvl 21 best bow...




    Sure... focus KDR on CAPTURE THE FLAG... Post a sshot of your CDR ratio in CTF troll, just for laughing...
    KILLS are the goal to win the game in DTM, not in CTF kid... U can lose CTF game with 100 kills & no death...
    KDR count in CTF only since Spacetime decided to count KDR as CDR for CTF in guild ranking calcul... Most of my PVP stats were before that...

    Concerning bow, we will imagine proc chance is 20%, it's more than reality but it's easier to understand proc occurency impact :

    LVL 30 sinister : 92.7 DPS 17 STR 33 DEX chance to proc +5% crit & arcane patch
    my stats with it : 543 dex 400.7 DMG 475.8 DPS

    Sinister will bring 20% proc chance to have 5% crit chance so it improve crit chance by 1%... (0.2*0.5=0.01) So it bring 1 more crit every 100 hits.
    & 20% chance to have the slowing arcane patch... So 1 slowing every 5 hits.

    LVL 30 Devourer : 94.6 DPS 18 INT 35 DEX chance to proc to improved damages
    my stats with it : 545 dex 398.4 DMG 478 DPS

    If u have 25% crit chance like me & if chance to proc is 20%, devourer bring 20 % imrpoved damages including 5% improved crit (0.25*0.2=0.05) So 1 improved crit every 20 hits

    So with a 20% proc chance :

    with sinister u win 2.3 DMG skills & u lose 2.2 DPS... , 1 slowing hit every 5 hits & 1 more crit hit every 100 hits
    with devourer u win 2.2 DPS & u lose 2.3 DMG skills..., 1 improved damage every 5 hits including 1 improved crit every 20 hits.

    Thoses bows are almost equals. Arcane patch hurt but improved damages on crit hurts too... & u was speaking about lurid, no sinister...
    1) lurid, sinister etc have the SAME STATS. They just have different names..
    2) thank you for proving my point that lurid is better
    3) dev bow's proc only works on autos


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    Quote Originally Posted by UndeadJudge View Post
    1) lurid, sinister etc have the SAME STATS. They just have different names..
    2) thank you for proving my point that lurid is better
    3) dev bow's proc only works on autos


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    Lurid is not better. Unlike you, I have detailed stats &procs, theses bows are almost equals...
    dev proc works as lurid proc. Not more, not less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kinzmet View Post
    I clearly stated the premise of my argument. The guy asked about what is the best bow, then stated his level 21. Never he mentioned it was for twinking PVP or PVE.
    You see this is how you understood his question >>> What is the best bow for level 21?.
    Now this is how I understood his question >>>>>>> What is the best bow? I'm still at level 21.
    If you would say its logical, then we wouldn't even need to have a different point of view.


    And may I add, you also thought the same thing with this post of yours
    So... if u don't have 22M for mythic 41, recurve of pot 41 is better than lurid & it cost 5K...

    DNFTT.
    Last edited by Arkh; 09-22-2014 at 11:23 AM.

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