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And thats considered fair? SnS is discontinued. So current players who don't own SnS should accept their fate that they'll get owned no matter what because of that 150m pet - even if they have maxed gear?
A level 41 SnS can kill a maxed player even if the owner wears epic gear, lol. Even after the undergeared dude dies, the SnS pools continue to do damage.
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I've listed a few suggestions above that don't involve Samael and would be possible good counters instead of everyone going back to the 5th newest arcane pet and 3rd oldest.
Whimm is good in some situations. Good for mages doing timed runs but overall is a situational pet that is hardly seen in pvp. I used to use him a lot in TDM until they made Sns better. Before the Sns buff, hardly anyone used Sns ( well I know I hardly used it) but every once in a while in CTF. It just wasn't as effective back then. Sns was useless in TDM previously. Now its a less situational pet.
Maybe pull and stun on the AA and /or buff stats/mp regen for whimm.
If it doesn't work, then all pet arcane ability should be reflected. Very few pet do as much DOT damage, so this would be balanced so it would only affect a small number of players. This wouldn't affect PvP balance and offer a counter balance to SnS as the way misty offers a counter balance to curse. Also a mage standing in a damage pool risks dieing before curse kills your opponent. So STS should fix this and have SnS DOT damage reflected by curse.
I just want to know if having a pet that literally does more damage than a player and heals more than a player is reasonable.
If you don't have max gear (ring+myth/arc weapon) SNS does more DMG than the player.
Also, as a tank with SNS u know that you do less dmg than your pet, is that reasonable and fair for the majority of players to have to constantly deal with? I think not.
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By effective you mean kill a tank in 5 seconds even after they healed?
The least significant arguments are given so much spotlight that this is ridiculous. Y'all aren't talking about the quantitative aspect of the pools and ignoring the important points. The green pools heal 600+ per second, thats more than HoR. They do more damage than a non-crit aimed shot. More than a non-crit lightning. A pet that undermines the most important skills in the 3 classes is absurd, period.
Do you know thousnds play CTF? Why is CTF looked as a minor playfield? More people L41 play CTF than TDM or PvE. Look at the significant proportions of the game - that is where people play most. The nerf doesn't have to include PvE aspects of SnS so you can rule that out. Lets talk about TDM and CTF, okay?
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Do you have stats on how many players play CTF at a given time? The only stats I see are tournament sign ins. Those do not go over 100 players.
If a tank chooses to remain in a pool, that is his own fault. I have had to fight against SnS too. Being smart about the pet and predicting when the AA will be dropped are key tactics to avoiding death at the hands of this pet. Do not put yourself in a vulnerable situation and you will not die. Simple, right?
A non-crit aimed shot does 1.4k damage. Lightning does around 1k-1.2k. SnS does not top this so please do not exaggerate.
Developers have stated numerous times that if they found anything wrong with this pet, they would make posts updating players on their plans for the pet.
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As I usually decide my teams setup, I want my tanks to go with singe not Samael.
For tank I believe singe is better than Samael because of the party buff.
Like I said earlier, yes it is time for Samael to move on but SNS is not the answer, you still haven't answered the questions I asked you in my previous posts.
I don't have specific data but devs can prove that there is a higher SnS : other players ratio in CTF than TDM and PvE.
Of course SnS does 1.4k in 2 seconds. One pool does 600-800 per tick. A tick is one second.
Aimed shot does 1.4k every 2 seconds. 1.4/2 = 700 Imagine 2-3 stacked pools.
Its not that easy to avoid pools if they're all over the place, which is true almost everytime in the narrow CTF hallways.
Last edited by Bless; 10-18-2014 at 12:01 PM.
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