If Freeze is allowed in pvp now..Give Sorcerers their Freeze skill back in PVP

[Titanfall]

Let me define your other posts.
'If breeze is to OP then why don't you scrubs go buy it, I'm so pro I've never lost 1v1 with breeze so you can't nerf it but don't bring mage freeze back if you do I'll get frozen and that's not fair cause I'm VIP rich boy and I have the rights to not be frozen. Breeze is just a pet anyway.' That pet is a GAME CHANGER. that's like saying the arcane ring is just some ring no big deal.

[Titanfall]

See your not understanding something here, your saying that if mages get freeze then it'll be unfair and you'll die for sure, well you'll die for sure if you get frozen for 6 secs anyway. Hypocrite.

[Arpluvial]

Hey guys!

As two threads were discussing different sides of the same topic, I merged them to keep it all in one place.

[Caabatric]

... breeze should be nerfed but buffed another area
breeze should not be able to chain freeze with its passive, I suggest making its passive more like colton's (susceptible to stun immunity)
the freeze from arcane ability or passive should then only last 2-3 seconds max

The second option is to make the passive like crawlies aa. (roots target but target can still use spells)
In this case then the root should last 3-4 seconds max

It needs to be buffed however in movement speed(it is so slow!!), its auto-aim passive should be fixed (should target a target it can hit not someone that is hiding behind a wall or trulle)

This should satisfy breeze users as they would not have lost completely a 2m investment, and the pet wont outshine sam or other arcane pets.
Now i know some breeze users are going to say it is no longer worth its value or that poorer players should have the same chance as an arcane player but really think.
Almost everyone in pvp was complaining about how op breeze was. did you really expect it wouldnt be nerfed, it was quite obvious.....
And really if someone spent 20-30m for a pet, does it make sense a 2-3m pet is better and makes all other pets obsolete, even sam didn't do that. As you can see in place of sam you still see all types of pets in pvp (singe, slag, orion, yowie ,blinky ,grimm, abadon, dova,etc.)
even arcane ring users can be beaten by players using blood ruby

Edit:
Oh and mages shouldnt be given ice freeze back if breeze is nerfed

[Linkincena]

... breeze should be nerfed but buffed another area
breeze should not be able to chain freeze with its passive, I suggest making its passive more like colton's (susceptible to stun immunity)
the freeze from arcane ability or passive should then only last 2-3 seconds max

The second option is to make the passive like crawlies aa. (roots target but target can still use spells)
In this case then the root should last 3-4 seconds max

It needs to be buffed however in movement speed(it is so slow!!), its auto-aim passive should be fixed (should target a target it can hit not someone that is hiding behind a wall or trulle)

This should satisfy breeze users as they would not have lost completely a 2m investment, and the pet wont outshine sam or other arcane pets.
Now i know some breeze users are going to say it is no longer worth its value or that poorer players should have the same chance as an arcane player but really think.
Almost everyone in pvp was complaining about how op breeze was. did you really expect it wouldnt be nerfed, it was quite obvious.....
And really if someone spent 20-30m for a pet, does it make sense a 2-3m pet is better and makes all other pets obsolete, even sam didn't do that. As you can see in place of sam you still see all types of pets in pvp (singe, slag, orion, yowie ,blinky ,grimm, abadon, dova,etc.)
even arcane ring users can be beaten by players using blood ruby

Edit:
Oh and mages shouldnt be given ice freeze back if breeze is nerfed

In-line with ur quote Carapace has just suggested 2-2.5 sec freeze with 20 to 33% chance to break free every 500 ping or 0.5 secs... thats still OK... Since it won't be 7 secs long which would also be in-line with current Stun /Panics in game

[Dex Scene]

Forget Breeze's freeze, mage's freeze!! Freeze is a Freeze!! If Freeze didnt work in pvp all these years, it should not in any coming days.
If it works in pvp, it should work completely. Mages would get freeze if breeze gets it working in pvp.

[Qamr]

any way it's so unfair to take freeze or any other skill from mage in pvp.
people choose mage in the beginning of the game, that's mean they choose to have magic skills At the expense of armor and health points.
and when he come to the game he found that they can't have the total benefit of their magic skills, but actually they still weak in armor and hp.
that's defiantly unfair.
u should give every type of characters their full ability benefits, or remove it from all of them (as example remove armor and health buff from warrior and ctr buff in skills like amid shoot from rogue.

[Artoholics]

any way it's so unfair to take freeze or any other skill from mage in pvp.
people choose mage in the beginning of the game, that's mean they choose to have magic skills At the expense of armor and health points.
and when he come to the game he found that they can't have the total benefit of their magic skills, but actually they still weak in armor and hp.
that's defiantly unfair.
u should give every type of characters their full ability benefits, or remove it from all of them (as example remove armor and health buff from warrior and ctr buff in skills like amid shoot from rogue.

It's the same with rogues at the moment because of the -10% dmg debuff. So if you want mage's skills back, I want rogue's dmg back

[Arachnophobik]

It's the same with rogues at the moment because of the -10% dmg debuff. So if you want mage's skills back, I want rogue's dmg back

I say give the 10% dmg back to rogues and nerf aim shot in pvp instead

[gumball3000]

Just lower the stun duration it's too long. I don't care if its called freeze, stun or panic, you shouldn't get immobilised for so long in pvp,

[Linkincena]

I say give the 10% dmg back to rogues and nerf aim shot in pvp instead

Bro... Look at pvp leaderboards...
Do rogues really need any buffs?
Anyways man.. this thread is bout mage freeze.. lets discuss about it..

[debitmandiri]

Wait a second...

" Breeze's Passive Attacks can still freeze players in PvP, but will have their own isolated immunity of about 10 seconds (normal stun immunity is 7.5 seconds). This would mean that you could come out of a freeze and then be stunned immediately after by a stun effect. This seems noteworthy enough to mention. It's also possible to tie them together in that you either get the 10 second immunity from a freeze, or 7.5 seconds from a stun. This also sounds a bit silly, but freeze sounds like a larger problem given the amount of time a freeze can last"

This is mean if we are frozen we get 10secs impairing immunity and 7.5secs if stuned

Or

Stun and freeze immunity are different ?

Forgive me, my english not so good

[Linkincena]

Wait a second...

" Breeze's Passive Attacks can still freeze players in PvP, but will have their own isolated immunity of about 10 seconds (normal stun immunity is 7.5 seconds). This would mean that you could come out of a freeze and then be stunned immediately after by a stun effect. This seems noteworthy enough to mention. It's also possible to tie them together in that you either get the 10 second immunity from a freeze, or 7.5 seconds from a stun. This also sounds a bit silly, but freeze sounds like a larger problem given the amount of time a freeze can last"

This is mean if we are frozen we get 10secs impairing immunity and 7.5secs if stuned

Or

Stun and freeze immunity are different ?

Forgive me, my english not so good

Yup.. Stun and Freeze are different . ..
Currently u can debuff stun using Misty but not freeze

[siddhant]

rogus have been ruling pvp for a lot time now when magws want their freeze back these rogues are the one saying no and other times in pvp game they will call mages as food afraid of fair fight after all i am guessing..

[Wutzgood]

Nice giving mages freeze would balance them in pvp. Finally people may fear mages when seeing them instead of laughing.

[siddhant]

Nice giving mages freeze would balance them in pvp. Finally people may fear mages when seeing them instea of laughing.

this is what i am talking abt and the poll speaks for itself scroll up wkwk

[Wutzgood]

From the sound of it breeze was introduced so players can be prepared for mages getting freeze skill back in pvp. Finally a balanced pvp where all 3 classes are deadly.

[Hercules]

and why? mages want freeze? buy breeze better

[Pyrogenie]

Unbalance and jealousy?!! Kill me now...

Mages are way underpowered, only thing that will happen by adding freeze to the blue dudes, is a more balanced pvp

Think back to when mage freeze ability was removed from pvp, why was it removed?. the jealousy I speak of comes from players "mages freeze and I cannot". Naturally it would balance out a average mage against a op rogue BUT that's not always the case. That same mage against a average rogue now has the advantage. Not all rogues or warriors are immortal lol. Mages aren't underpowered "IF" you know what your doing.

[Wutzgood]

and why? mages want freeze? buy breeze better

Breeze is for all classes and is a pet so they dont compare. M

Freeze is one of mages skills that doesn't work. Imagine if hor didn't have shield or aimed shot didn't have the crit boost. Same thing.