Guide on making the cutest free character ever

[iRandom]

Wait, wait, wait. So what makes movies similar is not the similar story, but rather the fact that they are animated and that they include singing? Or are you saying that Frozen is similar to LotR, but just a bit more similar to The Lion King? No, wait, no... Im using the wrong word. You didnt say "similar" you said "same". So, is Lion King in fact similar to LotR? Well, it pretty much hits all your points on that list on how to determine whether two movies are the same, so yes. Is it the same movie? Well, according to you, if it was animated it would be.

LoL! Similar story but disney is just ripping themselves. its rlly after the love in these movies that makes them so different from other THJ stories.
Nope LotR is just based off THJ. doesnt make the cut for an Original Disney story!
If u didnt understand my point about Disney THJ Movies then clearly u think too much
any imbecile that uses more than 2% of their brain could understand

This guy just oozes with knowledge

Mixing hate, sarcasm, and ignorance through virtual words is contradictory.

so u somehow know my gender?
Stalk much?

[DivineMoustache]

iRandom ur really just grasping at straws at this point, the last paragraph made that obvious. The last time I saw someone get offended over someone calling them "This guy" as a general pronoun was...never.

Anyway:

The Hero's Journey is an archetype for almost EVERY story, EVERYWHERE. Just because two stories follow "THJ" doesn't make them "unoriginal." If every book follows THJ, that would mean every book is unoriginal. Is that what you think? I doubt it. It's like how every religion has a God. Since Christians worship God/Jesus and Muslims worship Allah, does that mean since both religions follow a God, they are the same religion?

Now moving on to applying archetypes to Frozen. Let's say someone thinks that since "Frozen" follows the same archetype as "The Lion King," they are basically the same. This is completely illogical (read example above). But anyway, the main gist of Frozen is completely different. The "protagonist", Elsa almost kills her own sister, and the main conflict is over whether the "Hero" is able to maintain her own emotions. The "hero's" inner personality becomes one of the "villains." The main point of Lion King is to see whether the "Hero" can overcome the villain, Scar, who has killed his own brother. These are pretty drastically different, and I'd argue that the Lion King follows pretty much every classic movie line (go here, fight bad guy here, win here) while Frozen follows a more unique path.

[iRandom]

iRandom ur really just grasping at straws at this point, the last paragraph made that obvious. The last time I saw someone get offended over someone calling them "This guy" as a general pronoun was...never.

Anyway:

The Hero's Journey is an archetype for almost EVERY story, EVERYWHERE. Just because two stories follow "THJ" doesn't make them "unoriginal." If every book follows THJ, that would mean every book is unoriginal. Is that what you think? I doubt it. It's like how every religion has a God. Since Christians worship God/Jesus and Muslims worship Allah, does that mean since both religions follow a God, they are the same religion?

Now moving on to applying archetypes to Frozen. Let's say someone thinks that since "Frozen" follows the same archetype as "The Lion King," they are basically the same. This is completely illogical (read example above). But anyway, the main gist of Frozen is completely different. The "protagonist", Elsa almost kills her own sister, and the main conflict is over whether the "Hero" is able to maintain her own emotions. The "hero's" inner personality becomes one of the "villains." The main point of Lion King is to see whether the "Hero" can overcome the villain, Scar, who has killed his own brother. These are pretty drastically different, and I'd argue that the Lion King follows pretty much every classic movie line (go here, fight bad guy here, win here) while Frozen follows a more unique path.

This me after reading the 4th line

[iRandom]

"Hero" can overcome the villain, Scar, who has killed his own brother. These are pretty drastically different, and I'd argue that the Lion King follows pretty much every classic movie line

Sibling rivalry for kingship is classic yes but ur missing the point where Disney is ripping itself off to get rich

[LEVEL ONE]

Mixing hate, sarcasm, and ignorance through virtual words is contradictory.

I do not think that I am ignorant. I try to do as much research as I can before going into an argument. I was not hating on anything. I indeed used sarcasm but how else am I supposed to reply to this:

Now introduce a theme, lovable characters, catchy tunes and lyrics, lots of script, and put it into animation bc real actors are more expensive.
Ta-da. A Lovable Movie

Sibling rivalry for kingship is classic yes but ur missing the point where Disney is ripping itself off to get rich

Oh, so now you are calling Frozen a Lion King rip-off? Yea, that's it. I'm out. Do you really think Disney would spend thousands of hours and millions of dollars on - nope, I said I'm out.

[iRandom]

The Hero's Journey is an archetype for almost EVERY story, EVERYWHERE. Just because two stories follow "THJ" doesn't make them "unoriginal."

TY for PROVING my point

[DivineMoustache]

Sibling rivalry for kingship is classic yes but ur missing the point where Disney is ripping itself off to get rich

you're missing my whole paragraph that contends that Frozen and the Lion King are not as closely related as you think.

edit two: read the second sentence please. ^

[iRandom]

I do not think that I am ignorant. I try to do as much research as I can before going into an argument. I was not hating on anything. I indeed used sarcasm but how else am I supposed to reply to this:

Im watching Frozen and the Lion king right now lol
im at the part where they sing let it go and hakunamata
and maybe u werent supposed to reply

[iRandom]

you're missing my whole paragraph that contends that Frozen and the Lion King are not as closely related as you think.

edit two: read the second sentence please. ^

and ur missing my ty for proving my point post >.<

[iRandom]

edit two: read the second sentence please. ^

i was just curiously wondering of how he knows of my gender! in know way was i offended after all
No one is perfect

[DivineMoustache]

and ur missing my ty for proving my point post >.<

I'm not going to argue any further than this, as this is becoming redundant having to explain this to you again.

1) Your whole point was since two of the stories (Frozen and Lion King) follow the same archetype, they are basically a remix of the same story.
2) I just completely demolished that, as it appears you agreed with my statement that just because two stories follow the same archetype doesn't make them unoriginal.
3)

But anyway, the main gist of Frozen is completely different. The "protagonist", Elsa almost kills her own sister, and the main conflict is over whether the "Hero" is able to maintain her own emotions. The "hero's" inner personality becomes one of the "villains." The main point of Lion King is to see whether the "Hero" can overcome the villain, Scar, who has killed his own brother. These are pretty drastically different, and I'd argue that the Lion King follows pretty much every classic movie line (go here, fight bad guy here, win here) while Frozen follows a more unique path.

- TL;Dr if you're unable to comprehend -- not same story.

Thanks.

[iRandom]

I'm not going to argue any further than this, as this is becoming redundant having to explain this to you again.

1) Your whole point was since two of the stories (Frozen and Lion King) follow the same archetype, they are basically a remix of the same story.
3) - TL;Dr if you're unable to comprehend -- not same story.

Thanks.

1) If you know what the director of frozen said, im 100% sure you'd laugh
3) Yes not the same story but i never they were JUST the same but similar
so i ran out of thx 2 hrs ago but ty for helping

[iRandom]

Now im seeing similarities between Wicked and Frozen (LOL)

[iRandom]

Oh, so now you are calling Frozen a Lion King rip-off? Yea, that's it. I'm out. Do you really think Disney would spend thousands of hours and millions of dollars on - nope, I said I'm out.

Not a Lion King rip-off but a Wicked version!

[iRandom]

A. Plz watch the little mermaid, sleeping beauty,and cinderella.

"Disney is ripping itself off"
Im confusing myself now

[LEVEL ONE]

1) If you know what the director of frozen said, im 100% sure you'd laugh

Are you refering to this quote?

I will say in terms of scope, I wanted to push this like The Lion King or Beauty and the Beast. I loved how the scopes of those felt and they resonated, particularly The Lion King for me. I’m a big fan of The Lord of the Rings. For me, I always think, who wouldn’t want to do that in this medium? It’s so gorgeous and fun. So I did pull from those in terms of pushing the scope.

I do not see whats so funny about it. It just further proves that Frozen went way beyond Lion King. Also, the directors keep mentioning how they took the classic "princess" story and flipped it on its head, so they definitely would disagree with you.

Eh, in above posts you are just furhter proving how you throw all musicals into the same bucket. No point in having a discussion with you then.

[iRandom]

Are you refering to this quote?



I do not see whats so funny about it. It just further proves that Frozen went way beyond Lion King. Also, the directors keep mentioning how they took the classic "princess" story and flipped it on its head, so they definitely would disagree with you.

Eh, in above posts you are just furhter proving how you throw all musicals into the same bucket. No point in having a discussion with you then.

No.... but
Back to the topic

[LEVEL ONE]

No.... but
Back to the topic

Yus. I like how you turned XP gain off. I forgot about that and got 1xp, damnit.

[for the lulz]

what the hell y are u guys arguing , how dare u start forum drama and not include me in it

[iRandom]

Yus. I like how you turned XP gain off. I forgot about that and got 1xp, damnit.

i had to recreate after i got to L2 so i learned from my mistake