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    Quote Originally Posted by KingFu View Post
    Name reservations for AL didn't include a free shield. The shield was for purchase separately. Only SL name reservations came with a free shield (Hardlight).



    I actually entirely disagree with this, regardless of me being in the vast minority from this part of the forums. Name reservations being valid across multiple games led to a lot of problems the last two times. If they no longer support PL/SL/DL, why should they get the name reservations? I think they made it very clear loyalty is already less valued in certain areas, so that doesn't hold any weight anymore.
    I think that's inaccurate saying that loyalty doesn't hold any weight anymore. STS could have stopped giving us updates/fixes and feedback a long time ago, but they decided not to. They recognized the heart and loyalty some individuals have given to the community, and they still continue to acknowledge and appreciate it. Seeing that there are a lot of disappointed players (I for one not being upset... of course we were never going to receive more updates...) STS could ultimately find it in their heart to let us maintain our in-game names for the next app they design.

    This is reasonable because imagine the community this new game can have. By allowing current PL players to reserve their names and to carry on something that means well to them, then players will be motivated to actually play this new game, thus creating a solid foundation of members. I'm not saying that there will surely be a positive community if the PL playerbase were to transfer to this new MOBA, but I would say the odds are in our favor. I mean, the only reason I'm still here is because of the close-knit community.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XghostzX View Post
    I think that's inaccurate saying that loyalty doesn't hold any weight anymore. STS could have stopped giving us updates/fixes and feedback a long time ago, but they decided not to. They recognized the heart and loyalty some individuals have given to the community, and they still continue to acknowledge and appreciate it. Seeing that there are a lot of disappointed players (I for one not being upset... of course we were never going to receive more updates...) STS could ultimately find it in their heart to let us maintain our in-game names for the next app they design.

    This is reasonable because imagine the community this new game can have. By allowing current PL players to reserve their names and to carry on something that means well to them, then players will be motivated to actually play this new game, thus creating a solid foundation of members. I'm not saying that there will surely be a positive community if the PL playerbase were to transfer to this new MOBA, but I would say the odds are in our favor. I mean, the only reason I'm still here is because of the close-knit community.
    I agree with some of this, but I still think it makes quite a bit more sense for name reservations to be limited to AL. I realize no matter what argument I give, almost everyone in this forum is going to disagree with me, it being PL general and all.

    I do think it's very naive to say loyalty means much here anymore though. I have no doubts that someone like G has a lot of appreciation for old players remaining loyal to StS, but there's really not much proof at all to support saying that StS as a company actively acknowledges and appreciates PL players' loyalty. Just look at what it's gotten us long term - neglect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingFu View Post
    I agree with some of this, but I still think it makes quite a bit more sense for name reservations to be limited to AL. I realize no matter what argument I give, almost everyone in this forum is going to disagree with me, it being PL general and all.

    I do think it's very naive to say loyalty means much here anymore though. I have no doubts that someone like G has a lot of appreciation for old players remaining loyal to StS, but there's really not much proof at all to support saying that StS as a company actively acknowledges and appreciates PL players' loyalty. Just look at what it's gotten us long term - neglect.
    im agree with you ,but its against ur opinion about ppl disagreement. so im disagree to make it agree with you ^^

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingFu View Post
    I agree with some of this, but I still think it makes quite a bit more sense for name reservations to be limited to AL. I realize no matter what argument I give, almost everyone in this forum is going to disagree with me, it being PL general and all.

    I do think it's very naive to say loyalty means much here anymore though. I have no doubts that someone like G has a lot of appreciation for old players remaining loyal to StS, but there's really not much proof at all to support saying that StS as a company actively acknowledges and appreciates PL players' loyalty. Just look at what it's gotten us long term - neglect.
    We haven't received neglect for our loyalty. We were given a 77 cap when the community realized the game was simmering down... to me, that's not neglect, but rather a sign of sympathy that STS showed towards its PL community for remaining loyal.

    I agree though, it makes much more sense to give name reservations in AL from a business standpoint. I guess I don't see the reason why they can't just do name reservations for all games - for instance, my buddy in SL named Ghost has constantly been asking me for the name Ghost in PL. Whereas, I'm sure there is a Ghost in DL and in AL. I feel that at least the fairest way to accommodate for this is to do first come, first serve for reservations. Morally speaking (sorry for getting to deep, I know this is a game), STS should at least give us this chance to hold on to our names.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XghostzX View Post
    We haven't received neglect for our loyalty. We were given a 77 cap when the community realized the game was simmering down... to me, that's not neglect, but rather a sign of sympathy that STS showed towards its PL community for remaining loyal.

    I agree though, it makes much more sense to give name reservations in AL from a business standpoint. I guess I don't see the reason why they can't just do name reservations for all games - for instance, my buddy in SL named Ghost has constantly been asking me for the name Ghost in PL. Whereas, I'm sure there is a Ghost in DL and in AL. I feel that at least the fairest way to accommodate for this is to do first come, first serve for reservations. Morally speaking (sorry for getting to deep, I know this is a game), STS should at least give us this chance to hold on to our names.
    To me, I see the 77 cap as a huge example of neglect. Like throwing a barking dog the nearest bone you can find to shut it up. I guess that all depends on your perspective on it though.

    I agree that the more morally correct answer would probably be for reservations to be across all games, but like you said, business wise AL makes sense. StS has made it clear to me that business is what comes first. I just know it was a pretty big hassle for them last time, as a player would reserve their name, only to find someone already reserved the same name from another game (teh rhymes!). Support got quite a few emails from people wanting either their plat back, or their name to be reserved regardless. I could easily see StS just avoiding that same dilemma by making it AL-exclusive, especially since they've obviously just stopped supporting the other titles.

    Then again, this is all to say name reservations will even be a thing in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingFu View Post
    To me, I see the 77 cap as a huge example of neglect. Like throwing a barking dog the nearest bone you can find to shut it up. I guess that all depends on your perspective on it though.

    I agree that the more morally correct answer would probably be for reservations to be across all games, but like you said, business wise AL makes sense. StS has made it clear to me that business is what comes first. I just know it was a pretty big hassle for them last time, as a player would reserve their name, only to find someone already reserved the same name from another game (teh rhymes!). Support got quite a few emails from people wanting either their plat back, or their name to be reserved regardless. I could easily see StS just avoiding that same dilemma by making it AL-exclusive, especially since they've obviously just stopped supporting the other titles.

    Then again, this is all to say name reservations will even be a thing in the first place.

    I totally get your perspective. But STS has always been the company that, in my eyes, would never intentionally want to neglect us. They really attempted to give us something with their dedicated time and money. But that's coming from the perspective of the customer - I could very well be wrong.

    And even more so, I doubt the name reservations will be implemented in the first place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XghostzX View Post
    I totally get your perspective. But STS has always been the company that, in my eyes, would never intentionally want to neglect us. They really attempted to give us something with their dedicated time and money. But that's coming from the perspective of the customer - I could very well be wrong.

    And even more so, I doubt the name reservations will be implemented in the first place.
    I agree to an extent like I'm sure Gary really wanted to be able to push out more quality content to us, but I think a lot of the newer devs and mods have not emotional attachment to the game. Out with the old; in with the new.

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    Quote Originally Posted by KingFu View Post
    I agree with some of this, but I still think it makes quite a bit more sense for name reservations to be limited to AL. I realize no matter what argument I give, almost everyone in this forum is going to disagree with me, it being PL general and all.

    I do think it's very naive to say loyalty means much here anymore though. I have no doubts that someone like G has a lot of appreciation for old players remaining loyal to StS, but there's really not much proof at all to support saying that StS as a company actively acknowledges and appreciates PL players' loyalty. Just look at what it's gotten us long term - neglect.
    I agree with you, just because i'm not leaving per-say (I will reserve and play the new game )..I will reserve in AL. I might not play any sts games much anymore..but I will return always for events (and buy my plat when necessary to help enhance my experience). I'm willing to try this new game out...Maybe if it is a great success (meaning the new game), STG can be up to capacity for new opportunities and updates for other games that was announced.

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    my buddy in SL named Ghost has constantly been asking me for the name Ghost in PL. Whereas, I'm sure there is a Ghost in DL and in AL. I feel that at least the fairest way to accommodate for this is to do first come, first serve for reservations. Morally speaking (sorry for getting to deep, I know this is a game), STS should at least give us this chance to hold on to our names.
    That was only once lol. As for this post, I will play and support the new game considering Pl, SL, DL and other games are over. Lets not get into the discussion of how you got it in PL ok ...Just please befor you mention me on a post, PM me ok...and im Ghost in DL and AL...so yea they are all me lol...look at the sig. and a side note O&C sucked, so i uninstalled...it was a waist of my time....Now Kritika....is fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by octavos View Post
    I agree with you, just because i'm not leaving per-say (I will reserve and play the new game )..I will reserve in AL. I might not play any sts games much anymore..but I will return always for events (and buy my plat when necessary to help enhance my experience). I'm willing to try this new game out...Maybe if it is a great success (meaning the new game), STG can be up to capacity for new opportunities and updates for other games that was announced.



    That was only once lol. As for this post, I will play and support the new game considering Pl, SL, DL and other games are over. Lets not get into the discussion of how you got it in PL ok ...Just please befor you mention me on a post, PM me ok...and im Ghost in DL and AL...so yea they are all me lol...look at the sig. and a side note O&C sucked, so i uninstalled...it was a waist of my time....Now Kritika....is fun.
    There were multiple occurrences we're we discussed switching the names.

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