Why I'm Liking My Bird Less and Less

[Physiologic]

Nature Strike works with both Thorn Root and Thorn Wall But yeah, I don't know when they'll change the description because it makes the skill look really horrible (no one cares about 16 damage per second). Try out max Thorn Wall yourself - you'll see 250-300 damage on every single enemy you successfully hit.

WOW. its sad that some birds are such noobs. But I guess you'll find that in any game you play.

Instead of calling people noobs you can help them out, I've had points in Restore/Meditation before too during my first week of PL playing until someone said that I was better off maxing some other skill to be more damage-efficient (whoever and wherever you are, thank you very much).

[Moogerfooger]

Nature Strike works with both Thorn Root and Thorn Wall But yeah, I don't know when they'll change the description because it makes the skill look really horrible (no one cares about 16 damage per second). Try out max Thorn Wall yourself - you'll see 250-300 damage on every single enemy you successfully hit.

Sweet, I will do that as soon as I escape corporate hell for the day. Thanks for the heads up. Death train running tonight?

[Royce]

You can't make the argument that meditation is useless because you can buy pots instead, and then complain about lack of regen on gear. I'm sorry but that's insane. By the same logic, regen on gear is a total waste, so you should complain about gear that has regen. Since you can just spam pots, you'd be better off with those gear stats going to Crit, or damage or anything else.

[Moogerfooger]

You can't make the argument that meditation is useless because you can buy pots instead, and then complain about lack of regen on gear. I'm sorry but that's insane. By the same logic, regen on gear is a total waste, so you should complain about gear that has regen. Since you can just spam pots, you'd be better off with those gear stats going to Crit, or damage or anything else.

Oooh, do I sense a cage match brewing? :P

[Physiologic]

Sweet, I will do that as soon as I escape corporate hell for the day. Thanks for the heads up. Death train running tonight?

Yep most likely Need to hit 56 soon.

You can't make the argument that meditation is useless because you can buy pots instead, and then complain about lack of regen on gear. I'm sorry but that's insane. By the same logic, regen on gear is a total waste, so you should complain about gear that has regen. Since you can just spam pots, you'd be better off with those gear stats going to Crit, or damage or anything else.

Huh?? I never complained about lack of regen on gear...and I claimed meditation to be useless in comparison to other skills and inefficient gold saving. And yes, crit/damage is still the number one priority for bird gear stats.

[Turkster]

srry just havin a bad day. immature of me, I know.

[Royce]

Huh?? I never complained about lack of regen on gear...and I claimed meditation to be useless in terms of other skills and inefficient gold saving. And yes, crit/damage is still the number one priority for bird gear stats.

All I'm saying is this thread is a discussion of the lack of regen on BS Dex gear. If you miss regen, there is a simple solution. You have skills you can use for that. Anyone who agrees with your point (which I am not saying is a bad one) would also be logically committed to regen on gear also being a waste

[StompArtist]

srry just havin a bad day. immature of me, I know.

No worries.

[Physiologic]

Oh my post was not directed at the OP at all, it was for the posts that claimed Meditation to be useful, even to the point where sacrificing other skills for it was warranted

[Moogerfooger]

Oh my post was not directed at the OP at all, it was for the posts that claimed Meditation to be useful, even to the point where sacrificing other skills for it was warranted

That description of thorn wall threw me...I knew about the root angle of it, but not that it also triggered Nature Strike, and especially about the dmage factor. Shame on me.

Anyway...if the Death Train is running and I am on, I would like to test out my new shiny skillz yo.

[Turkster]

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Thorn wall can crit too. I hit 3 crits (474, 475 and 459) using only thornwall.

[Aerospacegod]

The should let you switch to Mage for 100 plat or something.

[Physiologic]

Every single archer skill can crit

[Royce]

Every single archer skill can crit

Not true. Meditation and Restore can't

[Physiologic]

Not true. Meditation and Restore can't

Ah you know what I meant!

[WhoIsThis]

Thorn Wall deals roughly 250-300 damage per enemy with good equips (the description is completely wrong, it doesn't do "16 target damage per second") AND stops enemies in their tracks. It's the best AoE (aside from Cruel Shot combo) that a bird has, plus with an enchantress it does double her lightning attack w/ Nature Strike combo (plus debuffs, which I forgot exactly).

Well, lightning does have a secondary effect - armor debuff. I can't recall, but I suspect that nature strike may make it more potent.

I haven't been playing my bird very much recently, as I'm focusing on getting all quests done and levelling my mage, but having a bird around is still pretty useful. Anejeden - I've seen you play, you're fine with bird; birds can hold their own just fine still.

[Turkster]

Yea they can definitely hold their own and put out tons of damage. I'm just starting to prefer to play my mage over my bird because of all the regen. And I'm not willing to downgrade my bird's equipment (sacrifice dps for regen)

[KingFu]

Yea they can definitely hold their own and put out tons of damage. I'm just starting to prefer to play my mage over my bird because of all the regen. And I'm not willing to downgrade my bird's equipment (sacrifice dps for regen)

Have you considered trying int bird? I hear theyr unimaginably squishy

[WhoIsThis]

If you want to, consider buying a ring for mana regen. It won't regen as much and you'll lose out on a DPS ring, but still, it may be worth it if you feel so strongly about this.

[Zeus]

Have you considered trying int bird? I hear theyr unimaginably squishy

Actually... I have a sneaking suspicion int bird may actually be LESS squishy now then a pure dex bird considering neither has very much dodge anymore, int bird has slightly less armor (5 points less at most). But... It makes up for it by awesome regen