Thread: Lustrous Axe
No one is forcing you to farm Konz lol. Host another map and invite people. Use your convincing power. Any way, why wouldn't people join other maps of Ancient Caverns? If they go after a few runs invite some other people.Originally Posted by Delolster
You do realise literally nobody wants to farm anymore
^ ppl are in Konz to prove that the one person claiming to have exact information is full of it.
Btw, I'm simply curious, what is your ign Bazinga?
Delolster; don't forget you data set is much larger than 70 if you factor in that your runs represent a full party (my presumption), so that it's more like 70X5 350.
On top of that you should factor in the elixirs people are nearly certainly on, giving them re rolls. Given that a re roll is an unknowable additional random statistic, I think we can be conservative and say- two people get a re roll in every one if those 350 chances at a pink.
So your personal chances of seeing even a minute percentile is great.
Believe it or not there are still some real farmers running, unlike some who pretend to farm to cover how they really gain wealth.
Last edited by Suentous PO; 05-08-2015 at 11:18 AM.
Hi Sue,
Thanks for your insight on how I conduct my research. <3
If i were doing a detailed research on caverns, I would have definitely used combos. And obviously, i will be in a full party. But this isnt the point of my research.
The ultimate goal of my research, is to prove an axe could or could not be farmed by anyone. And with 100 runs I've done with parties I've been, which would mean 500 runs, considering your point. Each usually have combo and a few usually pot up on their thrashers, so considering their luck factor, I have seen many pinks drop.
Essences, gear, recipes, especially an AXE recipe were all the parties i went with obtained. Most were happy to get essences for their gears, I however was not so happy. You see, in the 500 runs the 5 of us in the parties I'm in, whether it be the lucky players that happily walk away with essences in tow, and those that didnt get any at all, everyone have one similarity in common.
None. Of. Us. Have. Looted. L77. Raging. Blackstone. Axe.
So Option #1, which was Draebatad, was obviously out of the question. With that said, it will be harder for me to ever find a party on other maps on Ancient Caverns unless I happen to see the occasional living sands made by those without combos ;D
TL;DR
Option #1: BUSTED
Option #2: Processing...
Option #3: Still underway...
Option #4: Will. Not. Grovel. To. Support. *cringe*
Delolster groaned and muttered as he starts packing his materials and folded his tent, pulling out the tent pins is hard work since it was made on solid rock, and swore he would start living in the Caverns expedition camp, the only problem is that he had to ensure the tent and its materials provided by General Ghalon is duly cleaned without dust, since Ghalon was a strict Rhino and would keep a no-freeloader stance on anyone that chose to stay. Delolster would be no exception.
It had been 3 days as he completed the last of his run against Konzite with a few brave (and obviously clean) adventurers. Where everyone was fascinated by the Magical Essence on that last round, Delolster couldnt help but give a sigh. He is after all, just one of them, grinding and repeatbly killing those regenerating golems for at least 8 months. Why did he ever conduct this self-imposed research that some might find him machosist when there had been no sign of the Axe?
Delolster wearily took out his journal, his mind racing to jot down the results of the 100 runs he has done eith numerous adventurers, and headed on down to where the Axe could have been spotted.
"It is said that the Axe could be found on Living Sands" he rambled, as he prepared to take a rest at the camp for cleanup & equipment inspection, and ultimately to find some adventurers willing to take a researcher directly to Gorath of the Sands.
Last edited by Delolster; 05-08-2015 at 02:28 PM. Reason: ;)
"Just after the new Ancient Caverns cap (early August 2014), a friend farmed the L77 Raging Axe in Konzite's Domain and stashed it until recently. He crafted it and then I bought it."
Perhaps read the OP before posting about the topic.
such a mysterious item
technically some pinks do drop less frequently than others but its not the drop tables
vyx helm of hate anyone?
they make a rare spawning boss to increase an items rarity
also with such a bland useless item why would they make this item a rarer one?
The idea isn't that all pinks have same drop rate, but that it's bizarre to say that in one campaign only one set piece could have it's own personal drop rate for no reason.
Being a farmer myself, I wholeheartedly agree. Here is an excerpt of a great post Sue made on the Lust axe selling thread before the thread went *poof*.
Friends,
I need your help.Let's leave behind the irrelevant comparison of dark purples and CRAFTING pinks. As King correctly points out crafting is a separate table.
The rarity of normal pinks items is simply "pink rarity". Devs have never made a pink item of one stat drop less than others. Drop tables are not made with differing % rates.
The stat of an item (str int dex) does not influence rarity.
What you see drop randomly is not evidence of a totality of info. This is why in peer review a group study and control is demanded to keep out misleading info.
What you see drop is not what the tables have coded, you don't see the code. If you roll a dice and get a 3 that does not mean there are more. 3s or that the dice is loaded for 3s. That's called a fallacy of perception. You can not know dex items drop less because that's what you experienced, in fact the last slayer run I only got a dex item, so if I were to use your logic, it is clear it items drop more- but that is not true ofc.
The only info saying only one str item is coded to be so rare is you, and I have many reasons to not believe your word.
Konz is still farmed often and every day that the ax does not drop proves the ax does not exist in a drop table. It's going on a year and no item has ever been so rare as to not show up 9 months latter.
Every day it doesn't drop proves it isn't in the game.
-Suentous PO
Let me further explain the drop system in Pocket Legends. In the beginning campaigns, no pink items were considered super rare to be obtained in the first place. Just because You can drop a vyxnarr helm at level 25 and claim "OH MAH GAWD!! I'm super lucky compared to the fellow buddy running Forbidden Castle with you thst got a meh fathom crypt Pink." does not mean the vyxnarr helm wont be dropped for quite some time.
Help me run different areas of Ancient Caverns.
I believe the drop systems started to diversify during sewers, as I have seen multiple threads compiling information on what sewer bosses drop, and how people farm that same map to get the items that only exist in that map. It will be a hassle for me to look them up, so I trust Sue or any other vets with the passion to do it on my behalf.
For the sake of the axe that never exist.
The drop systems went back to normal pretty much on Nuris(postnerf) and onwards, combining the odds of getting a recipe with ordinary pinks at both Nuris & Fang, and crafting materials are added to the mix starting from Humania. Vanity was added to the mix on some maps, slayer & eruptions on perhaps a lower drop rate compared to the original system.
We can dream, can't we? Help a nub researcher out pls pls
I believe crafting materials are of a whole different percentage compared to normal pinks altogether, as I have seen more essences drop compared to gear. This theory cannot be proven at Konzite, since the guardians protecting Konzite & the big golems do drop pinks as well, mostly gear.
Well thats awkward I literally kowtowed to the entire community
A pink will never be as rare as to only drop once in multiple blue moons unless confirmed by a dev. This is why we need a developer to comment on this.
Similarly, a map will never be as rare as to drop more gear unless the devs confirmed it. Such examples include Forgotten Forest & Elite Onyx.
WHITE FONTS 4 LYFE!!!
Last edited by Delolster; 05-08-2015 at 10:06 PM.
#5 You gotta make a full strength rhino and use classy looter.
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Guys, why do you care so much? The game is meant to be fun. Just play it and enjoy it while it still lasts...
Arguing over such a thing is pointless. The point is... A guy got one. We don't know how. Why should we care?
Just play the game how you enjoy it... Don't waste your time just thinking about getting this axe.
Personally I doubt he farmed it.
Ign - Coolguymage
This! So true. These words of wisdom.
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That's not the point is it? Someone has evidently gained a item unfairly that isn't in the loot table which means he's made a lot of money from something he Shoudnt of.
All it needed was the devs to have put thr axe in the loot table in the first place or retract the mistake they made and apologise but yet again they've just ignored blatantly
Btw delolster I hope ur char is level 77 otherwise ur wasting your time bc I don't think anything good drops unless u r...
Ign - Coolguymage
Thanks for asking me this, Yes. I am level 77 for like 8 months now <3
I have farmed konzite and sometimes some maps about Caverns with others. I conduct this research because I want to break the myth that an axe exist for those reasons stated in my opening post.
Help me by meeting or hosting up randomly on different games other than Konz, and I may come
Me and several other friends have done 100+ runs a day on map 1-4 to find the axe. We at first came with theory since ancient caverns is made almost identical to sand stone caves that the axe would drop in the same location as the crystalline axe, which is map 1. But after farming many times we decided to change up maps as we go. Still no success in an axe dropping. Thus conclusion of this axe does not drop.
So what of this second axe? Was it crafted? Did it even exist?
So far I think it's just a lie in order for the story to be more "believeable"
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Hi everyone,
Like I said in a similar thread, I have forwarded the issue to the dev team. I apologize that I can't give any specific information with the reason being that as a moderator, I don't manage in game content. With that being said, the forums are not a place to point fingers and accuse each other of wrong doing. If you suspect any foul play, please let us know by emailing support@spacetimestudios.com rather than posting about it on the forums. Thank you for your patience in the meantime!
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