The FASTEST Hideout Run!

[IamBored]

This just show that bears are not needed. They should make normal mob like the Sniper in AO3.

[Moogerfooger]

This just show that bears are not needed. They should make normal mob like the Sniper in AO3.

Bears can speed things up and make for a smoother run with smart usage of Taunt, Beckon and Stomp. Some of the smoothest runs I have had, and fastest, have been with solid bears like Ellyidol or Warhammerben.

[Echelong]

This just show that bears are not needed. They should make normal mob like the Sniper in AO3.

If you played with a good bear like Ellyidol, persistant and a few others you would think otherwise.

[aluxuryhoggy]

Wowow! Can we get to together and do some runs today? What time zone you in?
Well done!

[Physiologic]

This just show that bears are not needed. They should make normal mob like the Sniper in AO3.

Ellyidol et al. at Catacombs. Run finished in 3 mins, 50 seconds.

[Ayrilana]

This just show that bears are not needed. They should make normal mob like the Sniper in AO3.

They're very helpful in pulling mobs together.

[IamBored]

Remove one archer from the group and add in a warrior see if it's much faster or equal in time. Boss should one shot archer and mage so warrior would truly be needed.

[Moogerfooger]

If a 1 bear/2 archer/2 mage setup, and if all were skilled, would still not make a huge difference other than possibly boss takedown time.....the flip side of that is that mob-clearing up to the boss may be a little faster if the bear knows how to beckon into tight groups.

[Snakespeare]

A bear can pull mobs away from traps. This party didn't need a bear because of the elixirs, which made them all bears at heart. Also, they are all very skilled players most of whom have bears they play often. Most parties do benefit from someone beckoning the mobs away from the firetraps.

[kopi]

bears are useful in Bs if u know how to do it, especially in stronghold. Those that been playing with Olliwalli, u will know i mean. he's a str mage, got two of us bear in stronghold.

Two bears and he split up, each going diff direction, we run and lure the mobs to mages and bird waiting at a corner and blasted them away, always on screen there's say 15-20 plus mobs which slows down my phone frame. we kill super fast. I had no record of timing and it's the fastest among all games i joined before. this brings me back the memories of AO3 rushing.

i do not know how to take video on iphone, but those whoever joined agreed it's very fun. I run this method with my friends and they love it too, though my side still yet to perfect it with many deaths.

[MITSUISUN]

This just show that bears are not needed. They should make normal mob like the Sniper in AO3.

It's really not that bears are not needed. Players and team work is all there is to it, and combination of good classes.

dex and tank bear works together is deadly, at same time you can argue birds are not needed because good mage's aoe is even more damage

[kopi]

If u got a group of 3 class together, all knows how to play their char, and with practice : bear move in, pull, mage weakness and nightmare, bear hellscream, bird root, mage lightning follow by icestorm and firestorm, same time bird shattering scream and blastshot. U can pretty much clear any maps fast

[IamBored]

Bear job is tank, pull and debuff. Mage job is to heal, debuff, and aoe damage. Archer job is to do damage and debuff. As you can see in the video, no tanking is needed because everything drop like flies even the boss. You guys kill so fast that a bear pull would not do much different. I can't really see but nobody in the group was in dangerous of dying. You can't say that about mage and archer because mage is best at aoe while archer is best at single target damage (boss).

[Echelong]

Bear job is tank, pull and debuff. Mage job is to heal, debuff, and aoe damage. Archer job is to do damage and debuff. As you can see in the video, no tanking is needed because everything drop like flies even the boss. You guys kill so fast that a bear pull would not do much different. I can't really see but nobody in the group was in dangerous of dying. You can't say that about mage and archer because mage is best at aoe while archer is best at single target damage (boss).

Have you seen Elly in action? He would pull and group mobs into a wall or corner and keep running and the group would kill them then he would keep grouping mobs and doing that till the boss when he would change into his dps gear and kill the boss without anyone or hardly anyone get hit by him. You can do fast runs with any group configuration as long as they know what to do.

We should do farming with damage and speed pots and see how it goes.

[KingFu]

Lmfao you guys play like n00bs

And you are......?

[Ayrilana]

Bear job is tank, pull and debuff. Mage job is to heal, debuff, and aoe damage. Archer job is to do damage and debuff. As you can see in the video, no tanking is needed because everything drop like flies even the boss. You guys kill so fast that a bear pull would not do much different. I can't really see but nobody in the group was in dangerous of dying. You can't say that about mage and archer because mage is best at aoe while archer is best at single target damage (boss).

Bears run up ahead and pull the mobs back to the group. It works very well in stronghold

[Moogerfooger]

You guys kill so fast that a bear pull would not do much different. I can't really see but nobody in the group was in dangerous of dying.

Wrong, and wrong. Bear pulls, with a bear in front grouping together mobs makes things much easier and speeds things up...it is not mandatory, but it does help a lot for the bear to take aggro from the archers.

And you have no clue about anyone's screens other than the ones in the video on a couple of runs, and in one of those videos we have tank pots to not worry about damage as much. Do you not see how often Physiologic uses health pots in his videos to stay that aggressive and do that much damage quickly???? With no bear taunting/beckoning/stunning, we are constantly hammering health pots in certain parts of the runs. To play this aggressively with archer, you are constantly in danger of dying, and use a lot of healths pots compared to hanging back and not using as many. Period.

You must never have played with a bear that knew what he was doing.

[Physiologic]

Bears that know how to Beckon and debuff when they're supposed to increases run speed and improves survivability. I'm saying this from experience, all based on countless runs with Ellyidol.

And hideout/stronghold is actually the easiest BS* map to run in. When you get to the slime monsters and face 10 mobs doing AoE fire damage on your party and you are bear-less, you'll think "damn I wish there were a tank here" right before the YOU HAVE DIED screen pops up.

[IamBored]

Check the second video again. The mage and archer Moogerfooger health dip to 50% once each so I think a mage heal would do for the other time being. I can't tell for Phys because his name is covered. I looked at Phys video and he used about 13 or 15 health potions in which he grouped with 2 random players and he was the only one leading the way in that video. Try a video with the best warrior and see how much thing speed up and also try 4 people instead of 5. Please post a video with a warrior pulling and see how it goes, you guys kill so fast that he will have to skip a group of mob because beckon doesn't reset fast enough.

[Zerious]

see this is why i need my archer and bear up and running >.<