Red Dragon Slayer question

[Basauli]

Why must people be so heartless to a fellow pocket legends player, tertydoc the booter has no sympathy towards others, and could care less about rudely booting but I wouldn't explain your situation here on the forums as it seems people sympathize with the bad person instead of the victim. I used to not like getting booted until I became 77 and got the second best gear. If they boot me I could care less as when I have the best set I would have need if nothing more

[Befs]

Why must people be so heartless to a fellow pocket legends player, tertydoc the booter has no sympathy towards others, and could care less about rudely booting but I wouldn't explain your situation here on the forums as it seems people sympathize with the bad person instead of the victim. I used to not like getting booted until I became 77 and got the second best gear. If they boot me I could care less as when I have the best set I would have need if nothing more

cry.


what have I come to...

[Eagleye]

It sucks dude but it's just the way it is...the people farming slayer look at it like this( well hey why keep this kid without a combo when we could have someone else in here who can put out 3x the damage) and also due to the lack of farming everyone always is itching to find a good slayer party and chances r that there's always gonna be someone with a combo to replace those who don't...just the way us endgame farmers think, u being a 76 I assume u would understand :/ simple solution tho if u don't have combo or plat get the 7k 5min 1.5combo

[Magic Sword]

Wasn't a helpful answer from any side

It was actually from both sides
His- don't get so worked up even if it's slightly annoying; Solution: host ur own
Host's- it's his game

[Covert]

Wasn't a helpful answer from any side

No felicity actually brings up a pretty solid point

[Iilhopeliliil]

Even if you do well, that doesn't mean the party does. Different people have different preferences, for a start, why not host your RDS game with a Plat bought elixir and see whether you want 5 tanks in your team.

[Draoscao]

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I've only played since last Dec. 2014 and worked my way up. Got the very best crafted Savage Dragon armor for my 76 fox. Every few days or weeks, I get the 3x combo daily blessing and a couple of days ago, I played 30 or so RDS runs. Yesterday I got hooked onto a RDS game without the 3x and picked up 3 pinks. Nice! I couldn't see that anyone else got worse drops (nobody did better than me, I think). Didn't hurt anyone's chances.

Today I got no 3x combo and get booted or threatened when I try to enter RDS runs. I actually had one jerk come down from the plate and stand in front of me! What a turd-blossom!

Personally, I think it's BS. Let the better, higher level players in, restrict to 74 up, say or even 77. I don't care. THAT would make sense. Faster runs, more drops and better for anyone.

So, somebody please tell me what the idea is of not letting players in without the combo? Or am I missing something?

Full dex fox is the way on how to fox in pl
Foxes cant tank wel imo
Anyways see my guides about 77 fox and 76 fox

Should of got swift set and used Phoenix bow snd farmed slayer

Also true ����

[TerryDarc]

TerryDarc,
First thing, stop posting multiple threads about the same event.

Secondly, this is how a Red Dragon Slayer host thinks. Anyone who's joined an RDS game is most probably farming for a starry garb,

not sure whether you have heard of it. It is extremely rare and takes multiple (100 +) runs to finally get one person in the whole party

of 5 to drop it. That could be 100 - 200 runs just for one person to get it. So you want to get a starry today and you want to complete

100 runs as soon as possible and you want the best team there is. Now lets look at you. A savage fox. That means horrible damage and

completely useless AoE. Most slayer hosts boot any class without a combo, let alone foxes. It just seems logical that he boots you.

A Slayer host thinks about how fast the runs can be done, not about whether you survive or not. Having you in his party would almost

be like being short of one player. Thats how much damage you can do as a STR Fox without an elixir.

First, the incident seemed funny enuf that even a sourpuss like you might appreciate it.

Second, tell me what kind of stats I've got that you find so deficient: 304 armor so I don't get killed there very often and can stick around to inflict damage
425 DPS which of the toons I've looked at who aren't afraid to share, seems pretty decent.

Third, I have NO idea where you get the idea that a STR fox (actiually a hybrid) can inflict no damage? Are you a developer? If not, you have no idea. None.

[Groaning]

First, the incident seemed funny enuf that even a sourpuss like you might appreciate it.

Second, tell me what kind of stats I've got that you find so deficient: 304 armor so I don't get killed there very often and can stick around to inflict damage
425 DPS which of the toons I've looked at who aren't afraid to share, seems pretty decent.

Third, I have NO idea where you get the idea that a STR fox (actiually a hybrid) can inflict no damage? Are you a developer? If not, you have no idea. None.

they inflict next to no damage compared to dex birds int mages and dex bears
strs bears out tanks/ damage you
rhinos can buff the whole team and can heal
mages have aoe which you have two both which suck
birds do 100000x more damage
and dex foxes can output twice the dps
and with 3x most of the classes (other than rhino) can do more than 5x how much damage you do

[Suentous PO]

First, the incident seemed funny enuf that even a sourpuss like you might appreciate it.

Second, tell me what kind of stats I've got that you find so deficient: 304 armor so I don't get killed there very often and can stick around to inflict damage
425 DPS which of the toons I've looked at who aren't afraid to share, seems pretty decent.

Third, I have NO idea where you get the idea that a STR fox (actiually a hybrid) can inflict no damage? Are you a developer? If not, you have no idea. None.

It's easy to mistake dps for damage. General rule for bosses is - damage>dps. Most bosses have high armor and sometimes temporary invulnerability.
Dps is reduced by armor first before damage is taken reducing the true effectiveness.

they inflict next to no damage compared to dex birds int mages and dex bears
strs bears out tanks/ damage you
rhinos can buff the whole team and can heal
mages have aoe which you have two both which suck
birds do 100000x more damage
and dex foxes can output twice the dps
and with 3x most of the classes (other than rhino) can do more than 5x how much damage you do

^ that
Even if that dps hit a nude boss, a geared birds lowest unbuffed damage is more

[garou498]

as u said, u dont really need combo to farm slayer. Yes people 74- are not very helpful without combo

[Iheybeautiful]

Lol stop crying about it already.

[Groaning]

as u said, u dont really need combo to farm slayer. Yes people 74- are not very helpful without combo

people can do slayer at l74 OMG never knew dis

[Magic Sword]

fox's main use is a quick attack which can make em fun in pvp but they are truly next to useless in pvp sry :c

[Befs]

fox's main use is a quick attack which can make em fun in pvp but they are truly next to useless in pvp sry :c

Wait what?
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[Amozite]

If you want to get accepted into good slayer runs as fox, I'd advise using swift set over savage. You shouldn't need to tank in slayer if your group has at least 2 mages that know what their doing and can keep the party alive. I have played using both savage and swift bow set in RDS, from experience a fox is far more useful with swift man.

[Loganayr]

Your problem is that you insist on playing slayer as a savage fox without actually questioning yourself about how useful you are in a party. I will sum ot up:
1) the purpose of slayer is to farm gold. The faster the better.
2) fast means killing in the least possible time. Nobody cares that you arent getting killed with your savage. What they care for is: is this guy useful to our party? Answer : no. You dont die but you deal close to no damage. Your hit rating as a savage fox is not high enough, and your crit and base damage is low. Even with a 3x combo most parties will rightfully kick you because with savage on 3x you deal less overall damage than a bird with no combo (if you consider the addition to mage damage through roots)
3: if you do like pve, why dont you just learn and use a swift set? There's nothing worse than people who doesnt WANT to learn when more experienced players try to help.
4: if you play your fox correctly (swift and learn to wall the dragon if you are the highest dps and have aggro) you will be welcome and do wonders.

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[TerryDarc]

they inflict next to no damage compared to dex birds int mages and dex bears
strs bears out tanks/ damage you
rhinos can buff the whole team and can heal
mages have aoe which you have two both which suck
birds do 100000x more damage
and dex foxes can output twice the dps
and with 3x most of the classes (other than rhino) can do more than 5x how much damage you do

I'm curious. What stat SHOULD I be looking at if not DPS?

Birds do 100,000x the damage? Get out of here!

[Suentous PO]

I'm curious. What stat SHOULD I be looking at if not DPS?

Birds do 100,000x the damage? Get out of here!

Like I said, look at your damage range, that's more important than dps. Your highest possible dps is lower than a geared dex birds lowest damage range.

Rough stats
............Fox in savage...............geared up bow bird
Damage.....348-368............................ 442- 482
Dps................421............................ ..... 660

Your average is more like 360, and the bird is closer to 460

Dps is an abstract of you always hitting something unarmored. Dps is good to consider for mobs, but bosses have good armor that subtracts from that, and that's not taking into account rds' trick of making you target randoms and be unable briefly to target him when he lands after jumps.

[Groaning]

I'm curious. What stat SHOULD I be looking at if not DPS?

Birds do 100,000x the damage? Get out of here!

thats the point your using savage which has no damage compared to a swift fox
on top of that you don't have have a combo that 1.5-3x the damage gone
the 100000 is a emphasis on how little damage you do

birds have break = more damage for the rest of the team
birds have root = less dodges from the mobs
birds might have higher shatter = even more armor decrease
birds also have the second best combo (most damaging i think tho) and on top of that its aoe it hits the mobs its summon
on top of that they have a 3x which makes them do like 19378476438267382638x more damage then a savage behr
and if they have lust bow/2pc/3pc all the merrier

admit it foxes do next to no damage next to birds