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    Quote Originally Posted by MyIGNisVibing View Post
    I understand what you're trying to get at but at the same time I was in the position of being a noob with much less gear before and I didn't complain for a way to balance it out for me because my gear sucked.. I simply worked my butt off to try to get that gear that the "pros" were destroying me with... A big part of the game is grinding to try to improve your character and if you balance it out or whatever you're going to take a part of that aspect away. While some people love to grind and gear their toon, others hate it. But its still a big part of the game and after you gear up and accomplish to get the gear you set out to get is a big relief and an achievement in itself.. That's skill and determination if you ask me.. So saying that "well you only won because you have a nekro and paras" is a super lame excuse for losing imo



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    for the longest time i used to be undergeared and a noob but even tho i was undergeared i challenged the pros. Just like a hero in an anime lmao. But the thing is, at that time it was possible to win even if i was undergeared. now it isnt. And i admire ur farming and how u grinded day and night to get ur gears but thats not the point. Ur gear will help u in Pve. It will help u in normal PvP, in ctf and tdm. But 1v1s are different. Tell me, have u ever seen a gladiator match in the movies where a complete noob is sent out to fight a pro? Ofc not, unless the noob is getting a punishment. Gladiator fights were always fair. if one guy is strong, the other is nimble. if one is a ranged attacker, the other has a shield. Once again the balance is kept. The point here is to keep the balance. To make it challenging even for the fully geared people, who just press 4 buttons (one combo) and get the kill. And then they wonder why pvp is boring even tho they kill all the time. Killing someone else is fun when the other guy actually gives u a fight. If u dont care about ur kdr, and are not scared, i dont see why a mere change like this would be so important to u
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    Quote Originally Posted by Endkey 2.0 View Post
    for the longest time i used to be undergeared and a noob but even tho i was undergeared i challenged the pros. Just like a hero in an anime lmao. But the thing is, at that time it was possible to win even if i was undergeared. now it isnt. And i admire ur farming and how u grinded day and night to get ur gears but thats not the point. Ur gear will help u in Pve. It will help u in normal PvP, in ctf and tdm. But 1v1s are different. Tell me, have u ever seen a gladiator match in the movies where a complete noob is sent out to fight a pro? Ofc not, unless the noob is getting a punishment. Gladiator fights were always fair. if one guy is strong, the other is nimble. if one is a ranged attacker, the other has a shield. Once again the balance is kept. The point here is to keep the balance. To make it challenging even for the fully geared people, who just press 4 buttons (one combo) and get the kill. And then they wonder why pvp is boring even tho they kill all the time. Killing someone else is fun when the other guy actually gives u a fight. If u dont care about ur kdr, and are not scared, i dont see why a mere change like this would be so important to u
    The main thing is money. I don't want to have to but a bunch of different pets or gears just to be able to do it... Just doesn't really make sense. I understand that you want it to be skill based and not gear.. I don't think your suggestion is the best possible way to solve it but I couldn't give a suggestion either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MyIGNisVibing View Post
    The main thing is money. I don't want to have to but a bunch of different pets or gears just to be able to do it... Just doesn't really make sense. I understand that you want it to be skill based and not gear.. I don't think your suggestion is the best possible way to solve it but I couldn't give a suggestion either.

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    thanks for ur honesty..i get what u mean too. And i agree aswell. However some pets do not cost a lot and plus people try to get pets for ap anyways so i believe it can work
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    Quote Originally Posted by Endkey 2.0 View Post
    the reason i asked for those things was because i knew you were a nekro user. You did not mention ur gears but i guess u have the best or close to the best gear available for lvl 16 mage. However, the thing you dont realize is, the rich arent the only ones existing in AL. What if someone whos not as geared as u are, and does not have a nekro comes and fights ya. Is it fair? and dont tell me that its his choice and all that. The only point of 1v1s are to determine the skills a person has. And to have fun ofc. How is it a skill thing when gear and pet factors still determine the amount of wins you get? Tbh i really think that the amount of people with skill in al is pretty low now. Everyone is so scared to fight without their nekros, their best gear, their rings and amulets. In earlier seasons people used to gear down easily, because at that time skill mattered more. Now LB and Kdr does, and noone has the guts to gear down and get owned. And trust me, i dont go around asking people to gear down. Endgame pvp is broken. I dont pvp at all now. Always had a passion for 1v1s and i have done those with almost all the pros there were two seasons ago. I just dont want sts to mess this up.

    1v1s are a skill thing. If pets are going to determine if u win or not, you and I both know its the pet and not ur skill whos making you win
    This is like saying people with the top gear doing elites should gear down because its not fair that they can do runs faster. Or everyone on timed run lb should have to use the same gear.

    Having an expectation like that is stupid and just plain ridiculous.

    When nekro was 60m, sure i agree with u. Now that its under 4m, buy one or dont use it as an excuse

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrowz View Post
    This is like saying people with the top gear doing elites should gear down because its not fair that they can do runs faster. Or everyone on timed run lb should have to use the same gear.

    Having an expectation like that is stupid and just plain ridiculous.

    When nekro was 60m, sure i agree with u. Now that its under 4m, buy one or dont use it as an excuse
    Like i said..not talkin about elites..not any other pvp modes..just the new upcoming 1v1 mode..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Endkey 2.0 View Post
    Like i said..not talkin about elites..not any other pvp modes..just the new upcoming 1v1 mode..
    I never said u were talking about elites, i simply used it as a comparison

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrowz View Post
    I never said u were talking about elites, i simply used it as a comparison
    u cant compare two things which do not relate in the topic we are discussing about
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    Quote Originally Posted by Endkey 2.0 View Post
    u cant compare two things which do not relate in the topic we are discussing about
    I guess u dont understand the fundamental concept of a comparison then. Im sorry u have to live with ur own ignorance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrowz View Post
    I guess u dont understand the fundamental concept of a comparison then. Im sorry u have to live with ur own ignorance.
    I am not ignorant THe thing is, the changes I want are only limited to the 1v1 map. You are comparing it to completely something else.
    Plus you say my suggestion would be okay if nekro was 60m, that shows that its not okay when you dont have it, while its okay when you have it. Thats selfish thinking man
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    Quote Originally Posted by Endkey 2.0 View Post
    I am not ignorant THe thing is, the changes I want are only limited to the 1v1 map. You are comparing it to completely something else.
    Plus you say my suggestion would be okay if nekro was 60m, that shows that its not okay when you dont have it, while its okay when you have it. Thats selfish thinking man
    I'm comparing it to something else to show u how ridiculous your idea is. If you can't understand that then u are ignorant. And no its not selfish thinking. I bought when it was still 15m before everybody and their mother got one. Even then I still wouldve said ur idea is bad. When .01% of the community had a pet that literally broke how pvp had worked for years and made them invincible then I would've agreed that people shouldnt be able to use it in 1v1 unless both players had it. Now that anybody can get it by spending a hundred bucks or farming for a few weeks and there are 100X more Nekros than there were before, dont expect people to not use it. The fact that u didn't understand that either is also rather sad

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arrowz View Post
    I'm comparing it to something else to show u how ridiculous your idea is. If you can't understand that then u are ignorant. And no its not selfish thinking. I bought when it was still 15m before everybody and their mother got one. Even then I still wouldve said ur idea is bad. When .01% of the community had a pet that literally broke how pvp had worked for years and made them invincible then I would've agreed that people shouldnt be able to use it in 1v1 unless both players had it. Now that anybody can get it by spending a hundred bucks or farming for a few weeks and there are 100X more Nekros than there were before, dont expect people to not use it. The fact that u didn't understand that either is also rather sad
    lets just agree to disagree and end our convo like gentlemen.
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