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    I know many people had answered this already but I would like a devs confirmation on this before I make any more big investments; will the old gems (e.g. Fire) scale up to 56 cap, as they did in this expansion.
    There's nothing wrong with scaling these gems as there is a limited supply already and they can't be removed like jewels can so once you use it, it's gone. Price will only go up until farming jewels is the preferred source of upgrading items. I just want confirmation on the fact that they will be scaling up!

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    yes plaese i still have many gems and I don't know if they going to be scaled or not

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    Eyes and paras should be a no

    Fire/glac/bloods are matched with jewels so their existence doesnt matter.

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    They've always scaled up, so I don't see why they wouldn't.
    They're adding a higher level of jewels, too, so they'll be pretty on par with each other still.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morholt View Post
    They've always scaled up, so I don't see why they wouldn't.
    They're adding a higher level of jewels, too, so they'll be pretty on par with each other still.
    A higher level? Lmao, something that would take 3 nobles? That's not even necessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zylx View Post
    A higher level? Lmao, something that would take 3 nobles? That's not even necessary.
    Yes but all the same it is happening lol, crazy right!

    It would be great to know if the gems will scale, although I am not sure if we will find out before expansion :/

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    I hope it doesnt scale (or else defeats the purpose of the jewel system)

    But to be completely honest, i think it will..... They have the program written so that the stats provided is proportional to the level of the item , unless they decide to spend time and re-write the program, then it'll continue to scale.


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    I hope they do scale lol their only downfall is they can't be removed, therefore they should be scaled anyway imo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zylx View Post
    A higher level? Lmao, something that would take 3 nobles? That's not even necessary.
    Yea, it was stated in the weekly post by Remiem; but the jewels will be much more accessible. Chaos, mind, fury, and finesse jewels will be dropping from more maps today, along with less water & nature drops.
    Plus, keep in mind how easy the Trindin & Garetta maps will be at the 56 cap. It'll then be easy to run through and farm jewels.


    Quote Originally Posted by eugene9707 View Post
    I hope it doesnt scale (or else defeats the purpose of the jewel system)
    Not really. The purpose of the jewel system was to have guaranteed stats from a socket. As it stands, a regular gem is weaker than the higher jewels. And for you to get a grand gem, the noble still has 1 more stat. With a higher tier of jewel coming up, the grand gem will probably be equal with +9 at 56. Only a grand Tarlok gem will be a real maxed out alternative.

    And keep in mind...the gems are a finite resource. There are only so many left over. And I have personally tried 34 attempts on a helm before getting a single grand gem on it. That's over 250 hours of crafting time! Over 10 straight days! I'm not the only one to suffer through 30+ attempts. It happens. 30 gems now? That's 3 million gold, give or take. And as a handful of gems are used up, the price of them go up and up as the supply dwindles.

    As for reinforced gems are very scarce as is, and the defense they add is pretty minimal...you'd need many grand ones to have a difference. If someone wanted to spend 15 million gold to get all grand reinforced gems in their 56 gear...let them waste their time & gold. lol If they want to spend that much gold, the deserve the slight edge. Not to mention only like 3 people could actually accomplish this before the supply runs out.

    So, the gems have no real effect on the jewels.

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    More jewels dropping??

    Ugh that's going to kill prices, 90% of my in game income is based on farming and selling jewels..

    Way to put me out of work Sts! Now how am I going to afford my cake...

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    Indeed ^^ agreed with most of the comments so far! All the gems will eventually "fade away" just like that paras and eyes..supposedly...and look at their prices..they are insanely expensive right now

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    all gems should not be scale due to new jewels ... irregardless eyes or para they are over price people hog it during the release i am aware some people still owns alot of it and merching it or make it un-tradable.

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    The closer we get to the expansion without an announcement clarifying the future status of gems, the less likely it is that they will no longer be socketable. If they are still socketable, they will very likely still scale.

    That said, there are safer, more lucrative investments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zylx View Post
    A higher level? Lmao, something that would take 3 nobles? That's not even necessary.
    It is said in Weekly update

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    Quote Originally Posted by Morholt View Post
    Yea, it was stated in the weekly post by Remiem; but the jewels will be much more accessible. Chaos, mind, fury, and finesse jewels will be dropping from more maps today, along with less water & nature drops.
    Plus, keep in mind how easy the Trindin & Garetta maps will be at the 56 cap. It'll then be easy to run through and farm jewels.


    Not really. The purpose of the jewel system was to have guaranteed stats from a socket. As it stands, a regular gem is weaker than the higher jewels. And for you to get a grand gem, the noble still has 1 more stat. With a higher tier of jewel coming up, the grand gem will probably be equal with +9 at 56. Only a grand Tarlok gem will be a real maxed out alternative.

    And keep in mind...the gems are a finite resource. There are only so many left over. And I have personally tried 34 attempts on a helm before getting a single grand gem on it. That's over 250 hours of crafting time! Over 10 straight days! I'm not the only one to suffer through 30+ attempts. It happens. 30 gems now? That's 3 million gold, give or take. And as a handful of gems are used up, the price of them go up and up as the supply dwindles.

    As for reinforced gems are very scarce as is, and the defense they add is pretty minimal...you'd need many grand ones to have a difference. If someone wanted to spend 15 million gold to get all grand reinforced gems in their 56 gear...let them waste their time & gold. lol If they want to spend that much gold, the deserve the slight edge. Not to mention only like 3 people could actually accomplish this before the supply runs out.

    So, the gems have no real effect on the jewels.
    ah, my comment also includes eyes as well

    but side note though , the jewel price (and effort )will increase at the factor of 3 for every tire, while gems price is static (as it is not stats dependent). so gems will get better in time and no effort required (just have to hoard it). where for jewels you need to put a lot more effort effort to achieve the same , even just for normal, non-grand gems


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